Shame on krishna

ArhainAshish

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Posted: 14 years ago

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I wishhh creatives make up dre mindss whether to show krishu as d villain or as d heroo:(:@:(

ek tu dey;re showin him less hes got nah mch to do aj kal in d drama:((due to amanz family n ss n shaktia:@

2ndly his mooodd is changing in seconds i meann he saves kesar n d next moment prats tellss him abt d clothes she gave 4 dre kid he quickly burstd on her:O:O

his mooods changing every min every sec y :O:O

he came to d house shoutin pratigya pratigyaa n den he strtd shoutin @ her 2 stop giving lecture:O:O

PLJJJ cvss dun ruin dun spoil a genuinely gooodd person krishu:(:(

cannot c ppll blaming krishuu😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭dun do tis wit r krishu

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Originally posted by: anusarkar
I could not imagine what I read today in the update. I have stopped watching the show ,but after hearing what happened inthe precap I had to write something.

Prat has given up everything for this worthless man .And what does he do ,he goes and is about to hit her. What a shameful man . He will never change. He is a despicable thakur and he will always be. Once a hitter always a hitter. I want Prats to get out of the house taking Kesar with her. This man needs to learn a lesson. I am disgusted with him. I cannot imagine staying with a man like this day in and day out.

I am a lawyer ,a wife , a mother and I work with domestic violence situations. Its from my proffessional experience I know that men like this never changes. They apolozizes repeatedly and the poor wife or gf thinks that they have changed for good. The first time a man hits you and if you do not take any action ,its for sure that it will not be the last time he hits you.

Hypothetically in this condition in my profession I would suggest the women should find an oppurtunity and get out of the situationr and be in a safe place far away from the abuser. She needs to think and stop all contact with him.

Remember a man who knowingly brings you at his disfunctional and abusive home, is an abuser himself. It never matters how much he loves you ,but always remember he has no right to hit out or abuse you . He needs to be stopped .The only way it will happen is if you leave him.

In P"s case K has already attempted rape on her twice and slapped her once. In any present day or time a man will be charged with battery against him and be in jail. I have read people sreasoning K"s angry lash out as been insecure. It still does not give you the right even to raise your hand. A grown man who does not know how to control is not a man, he is a child.

Please say no to domestic violence and abuse. Please do not suffer silently because you love them. Please remember if they loved you they would not be abusing you in the first place.

Thanks Anu, 👏 Based on today's episode and the Pre-cap, I got really upset with Krishna. There is no justification for him to say that Kesar can only be fed if she works for it, He seems to agree with his family who said that barren women are no good. Kesar was even denied a glass of milk when she needed it most the other day right in front of Krishna. He seems totally unaffected by the plight of Kesar and how conveniently he forgot about her suicide attempt.l. His stance on Kesar is simply unacceptable and was questionable.

What I saw in the pre-cap was even more shocking, even if he apologizes to Pratigya right after he shouted and attempted to slap her is not forgivable. She not only forgot about what happened to her few months back, but she was giving him utmost importance and unconditional love. She never complained to him about the verbal and physical abuse his family has started to give her. Prats after bearing all this if he yells at her and threaten to slap should give him her thorough piece of mind. He only understand when someone takes a firm stance in front of him, She attempted to give him merely an example by saying that you too don't do any work but no one denies you food then why Kesar. Krishna grow up, physical intimacy is not love.!!! And for you probably it was, and now back to square one.

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Mishti

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Posted: 14 years ago

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very true, even i was shocked in the precap...shame on u krisha!! 😡

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The only think I could say for all the people who still supports K after today's action and the precap is that they are merely supporting Ahaan Behl . They are not looking at the character he is portraying. I am surprised and shocked at people saying that P should have used kind wordsAbsolutely correct. i also don;t get why people say pratigya should have talked nicely. come on yaar.she has dealt with so much in his wife. For women the word abuse is more than physical abuse and she is hearing all these through out the day and she is standing as a balanced woman without losting her identity that itself is a big thing for me. exactly they are blindly supporting AB's character but then again its not new not only here go to any other forum and you will see ppl are moslty defending the guy not the girl 😆😆and teh weird thing is this that those ppl are also girls them selves 😆sorry but what i felt i said .waa u said my words i am surprised also they r girls also.

What I saw in the pre-cap was even more shocking, even if he apologizes to Pratigya right after he shouted and attempted to slap her is not forgivable. She not only forgot about what happened to her few months back, but she was giving him utmost importance and unconditional love. Even he tortured her with rude words after the kidnap stuff came out. it was not her fault. one way or the other way he was also responsible for that.like she said if it had happened after marriage what would he have done?She never complained to him about the verbal and physical abuse his family has started to give her. Prats after bearing all this if he yells at her and threaten to slap should give him her thorough piece of mind. He only understand when someone takes a firm stance in front of him, She attempted to give him merely an example by saying that you too don't do any work but no one denies you food then why Kesar.I think she was just trying to make him understand things see u r also not working but u r eating and she is in this situvation and they r making her work. Krishna grow up, physical intimacy is not love.!!! He has to grow up a lot and have to understand the reality. Everybody in the forum says krishna comes from a house where abuse is common and that is why he is doing it. come on yaar see pratigya side also she is from a simple family for her also all these r new in her family no one yells or beats or anything. So this is all shocking to her also. So she is also talking back and doing what she thinks is right. For her also it is lot of adjustment. She is put in deep swimming pool i feel like that. Think from pratigya side also.

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True. I totally condemn violence. Having said that, i would like to say that Pratigya too has slapped Krishna!!!

Plus, one thing i never understood is, Pratigya took a pratigya to revenge on Krishna. How come she never acted on it.

All she did was, she deprived him of her love(she even offered her body to him during the marital rape scene.

another thing i noticed is, how can pratigya decide for kesar. in the FIR withdrawal thing, though jail was truely deserved for shakti and amma, she cant decide that for kesar. kesar is an adult(though dumb), she should 1st decide to help herself, only then others can help. each person has ther own way of handling things, if kesar decides that, then pratigya should respect that.

did pratigya listen to kesar when kesar said, krishna loves you pratigya, you should reciprocate.

so why pressure kesar against withdrawal?!!

Neither pratigya nor krishna are puritan. both have their faults.

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Mitrashakti

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True. I totally condemn violence. Having said that, i would like to say that Pratigya too has slapped Krishna!!!

( Pratigya slapped him because he was harrassing him. I would have slapped in that position too)

Plus, one thing i never understood is, Pratigya took a pratigya to revenge on Krishna. How come she never acted on it. ( Well that was the biggest mistake of her life. You do noy give into bullying . You fight against it. She was trying to save her family from humiliation)

All she did was, she deprived him of her love(she even offered her body to him during the marital rape scene. ( She did not offer her body in the beginning at all. She did it when she felt she loved him)

another thing i noticed is, how can pratigya decide for kesar. in the FIR withdrawal thing, though jail was truely deserved for shakti and amma, she cant decide that for kesar. kesar is an adult(though dumb), she should 1st decide to help herself, only then others can help. each person has ther own way of handling things, if kesar decides that, then pratigya should respect that.

did pratigya listen to kesar when kesar said, krishna loves you pratigya, you should reciprocate.

so why pressure kesar against withdrawal?!! ( I work with women who have battered syndrome and Kesar is suffering from that sydrome.

In cases like this

1. The woman believes that the violence was her fault.
2. The woman has an inability to place the responsibility for the violence elsewhere.
3. The woman fears for her life and/or her children's lives.
4. The woman has an irrational belief that the abuser is omnipresent and omniscient.

It is also important to understand why battered women stay in abusive relationships. Battered women tend to stay in abusive relationships for a number of reasons. Among those reasons: women are still positively reinforced during the honeymoon phase; women tend to be the peacekeepers in relationships - the ones responsible for making the marriage work; adverse economic consequences; it is more dangerous to leave than to stay; prior threats by batterer to kill self, or children; or to abscond with children; lost self-esteem; and no psychological energy to leave - resulting in a learned helplessness or psychological paralysis.

Neither pratigya nor krishna are puritan. both have their faults.

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Originally posted by: anusarkar
I could not imagine what I read today in the update. I have stopped watching the show ,but after hearing what happened inthe precap I had to write something.

Prat has given up everything for this worthless man .And what does he do ,he goes and is about to hit her. What a shameful man . He will never change. He is a despicable thakur and he will always be. Once a hitter always a hitter. I want Prats to get out of the house taking Kesar with her. This man needs to learn a lesson. I am disgusted with him. I cannot imagine staying with a man like this day in and day out.

I am a lawyer ,a wife , a mother and I work with domestic violence situations. Its from my proffessional experience I know that men like this never changes. They apolozizes repeatedly and the poor wife or gf thinks that they have changed for good. The first time a man hits you and if you do not take any action ,its for sure that it will not be the last time he hits you.

Hypothetically in this condition in my profession I would suggest the women should find an oppurtunity and get out of the situationr and be in a safe place far away from the abuser. She needs to think and stop all contact with him.

Remember a man who knowingly brings you at his disfunctional and abusive home, is an abuser himself. It never matters how much he loves you ,but always remember he has no right to hit out or abuse you . He needs to be stopped .The only way it will happen is if you leave him.

In P"s case K has already attempted rape on her twice and slapped her once. In any present day or time a man will be charged with battery against him and be in jail. I have read people sreasoning K"s angry lash out as been insecure. It still does not give you the right even to raise your hand. A grown man who does not know how to control is not a man, he is a child.

Please say no to domestic violence and abuse. Please do not suffer silently because you love them. Please remember if they loved you they would not be abusing you in the first place.

Anu,
Thanks for this post. You have been saying this for a few days now with negligent response from this fourm 😕 - the reason, of course, is that all of us here are too close, too involved in the details of this soap to step back and see it merely as a social issue.

You are absolutely right - say No to domestic violence and abuse. say it loud, say it strong, mean it becasue otherwise you'll be hit again.

I want to qualify a few things about this soap and its context however. I don't know where you're located. Going by this statement: "In any present day or time a man will be charged with battery against him and be in jail", I'm assuming you're in the First World.
The sad fact is that India is not in that situation. Men are not charged for battery still much less do they go to jail for it. The problem is not that a few families are dysfunctional, the problem is that in certain sections of society, in certain insular stratas, the system is dysfunctional.

When Krishna or Komal say that this has always happened, they mean it. It happens in their family, it must have happened in Sumitra Devi's maika, Kesar's maika and also the home of this new girl Shakti is about to marry. It happens in the whole community. It is NO surprise to any of the women - they all know this is the state of affairs. This is EXACTLY why the Thakurs hate and fear Pratigya - she's from the OUTSIDE. A woman who has not been taught from the cradle that she will be hit and that's ok. She displays shock, horror. she protests. She tells them she won't be hit, or controlled. That is why they're trying to kill her, muffle her.

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Iam not defending Krishna/AB here....If Prats really thought he is worthless...why the marriage?????OK,its to tk revenge...But why gave herself to him...her love n body n soul.????
The person who u love the most is the person who u hate the most.....
Love is something which u have to show unconditionally....will have to accept a person with his nagative traits too.....iam supporting Prats for her consideration towards Kesar....but what Krishna feels yest was...why Prats being blamed for everything unnessarily....any person who is in love madly will think like tht...Is it really necessary??????? Prats supported Kesar in the obortion case n against violence...but happened is history....Kriya face the real punishment...n Prats understood her fault......
After tht incident also...still she defends her...how the hell she believes in Kesar...She has to be little supportive in her fighting know??? Instead she believed her hubby's acting n withdrew the case.....😡 U all suppourted Kesar in tht too.Kesar knows soo much secrets,why the hell she is having all this to her till now...she knows how all they r illtreating her sis prats n Krish in tht house....If she is not able to fight for herself...she should atleast tell these secreta to KRIYA.

I felt really bad...Prats n Krishna faced soo much after the police case...But Kesar didn't even apologize once to Prats tht all this they r facing is only bcos of her....

In tamil there is a Proverb..."pathiram arinju pichai podu" means u know know to whom u should support.
Otherwise everything will go waste.U should not help worthyless ppl..it will go against u...it happened in my own life....Iam writing all this bcos I face all this...My hubby told...u don't know abt his SIL...n so don't support...we can support her from outrside...but now she is with everybody happily n me n my mom feeling bad bcos all of his family members doesn't talk with us anymore or respect us...only bcos of our support to my SIS,who is my hubby SIL... Iam sorry,Iam writing all this n getting litle emotional...

Krish will not ht\it her for God's sake...he will not but only a expression of guilt n hurt....even his belove wife told tht he is incapable...U don't know how it feels when a man already thinking tht he is not able to protect his wife....Istead of helping him out,she is hurting him.....Has she ever spoke abt his job b4...why the hell she didn't told all these while...b4 consummation of their marriage.Now tht he feels secure with ONLY her n she also hurting himm...Its like oiling the fire...or hurting the wound more n more..POOR GUY....

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Mitrashakti

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Anu,
Thanks for this post. You have been saying this for a few days now with negligent response from this fourm 😕 - the reason, of course, is that all of us here are too close, too involved in the details of this soap to step back and see it merely as a social issue.

You are absolutely right - say No to domestic violence and abuse. say it loud, say it strong, mean it becasue otherwise you'll be hit again.

I want to qualify a few things about this soap and its context however. I don't know where you're located. Going by this statement: "In any present day or time a man will be charged with battery against him and be in jail", I'm assuming you're in the First World. ( First and foremost thanks for your post . Yes I am located in CA - USA. I know this for a fact that it happens in rural India , but the soap is located in proper Allahabad. It is a big city with lot of rich culture and heritage. I am surprised that it happens in metropolition cities too These soaps are mainly watched by women and I think the media should be responsible in showing the remedy of the situation and not encourage it. There is a reason why India is still demeaned as third world country. It is because they do not dwell with the social issues in rural areas.I mean not just domestic matters but in every other matter like education, race. etc. )
The sad fact is that India is not in that situation. Men are not charged for battery still much less do they go to jail for it. The problem is not that a few families are dysfunctional, the problem is that in certain sections of society, in certain insular stratas, the system is dysfunctional.
( Well a society starts with a single family and if one family is stopped there is a chance a chain system will be formed. change has to start somewhere and through somebody. And media and television plays a very important role)
When Krishna or Komal say that this has always happened, they mean it. It happens in their family, it must have happened in Sumitra Devi's maika, Kesar's maika and also the home of this new girl Shakti is about to marry. It happens in the whole community. It is NO surprise to any of the women - they all know this is the state of affairs.( They might have seen it and they might think it is normal. But they have to be taught and educated that it is not acceptable and it is wrong to suffer in pain). This is EXACTLY why the Thakurs hate and fear Pratigya - she's from the OUTSIDE. A woman who has not been taught from the cradle that she will be hit and that's ok. She displays shock, horror. she protests. She tells them she won't be hit, or controlled. That is why they're trying to kill her, muffle her.
( Well lastly I would like to say that I have been taught by my parents never to suffer and always stand up for the truth.Well thats why I am a prosecuter and I cannot tolerate violence towards women)

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: fruark
True. I totally condemn violence. Having said that, i would like to say that Pratigya too has slapped Krishna!!!

Plus, one thing i never understood is, Pratigya took a pratigya to revenge on Krishna. How come she never acted on it.
All she did was, she deprived him of her love(she even offered her body to him during the marital rape scene.

another thing i noticed is, how can pratigya decide for kesar. in the FIR withdrawal thing, though jail was truely deserved for shakti and amma, she cant decide that for kesar. kesar is an adult(though dumb), she should 1st decide to help herself, only then others can help. each person has ther own way of handling things, if kesar decides that, then pratigya should respect that.
did pratigya listen to kesar when kesar said, krishna loves you pratigya, you should reciprocate.
so why pressure kesar against withdrawal?!!

Neither pratigya nor krishna are puritan. both have their faults.

Thts how Humans r....Who eevr u r..buddy,I appreciate U....Thank u for this post...in this thread...

Many of the members here told tht....Prats showed what LOVE to him...BIG NO...he could've easily proceeded with the rape in their honeymoon...he values LOVE n RESPECT...why all of u shutting ur eyes n just to speak speaking of Feminism n violence.Why r u not seeing the inner beauty of Krishna's character????? Even I hate violence against women...but should know why it happened otherwise all the marriages n relationships will go in the air..nothing will withstand ever.

I know even Prats had her ENOUGH Insult from eveybody....But she knows Krishna is here for her....He shpwed his niceness in many a times n tht why we all love him....Its just not LUST....ITS HIS PURE LOVE FOR PRATS....EVEN PRATS ACCEPTED THIS.....

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