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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Dreamygal301


I see it the other way. Now Krishna will love her for who she is really. Before his love was an idyllic love, really. Part real and part on how he perceives love should be. I don't agree they have been tainted - are you saying people in love should never question each other?😊...A husband and wife have more rights to Qs each other than anyone else. She has nothing to prove except that she loves him.
I am a great believer in the power of love. Love heals every wound and every hurt. Love has the power to renew and reaffirm life. For me, this is a new beginning for Kriya - an honest start with a clean slate. No more secrets (hopefully!) and no more lies. It will be more of an equal relationship now. 😊



He has all the rights to get depressed and what not over what might have happened...however, why is he making it look like as if it was all Prat's fault???Does he think she willingly went for it???😕...If he really claims to love her, isn't he supposed to think of her pain before his own???
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Posted: 15 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: lovtv

Dream, Your point is well made and understood. But Allahabad is hardly a small town. Understand the Thakurs deal with, work with and have the respect of their employees who may have small town ideas. Granted that Krishna needs time to process everything he has learned and at the heart of all his problems is coming to the realization that Pratigya never had any feelings for him. Yes he can question her about her "purity" all he wants but ultimately this is a love story and most viewers are women and we want our hero to say that it doesn't matter I love you.

I am trying very hard not to let my western upbringing influence my enjoyment of the show because at heart I am a small town desi girl. Who didn't agree with Ram for rejecting Sita even though she passed the AGNI test. And I want Krishna to make the right decision here.

Violence against women, stalking, rape, controlling women's sexuality, honor killings, small mindedness and some of the other issues they are showing here are not issues in just India and the subcontinent. They very prevalent in the so called Western society as well.

Let's be real Krishna has done a lot of things a "normal" man bought up the way Krishna was would ever do. So I think it is okay for us to expect him to say it doesn't matter.

😊lovetv -no two families are the same in their thinking even if they live in NY/London or Allahabad. The show is trying to portray that - look at the Saxenas and Thakurs - thinking at two end of spectrum.
It is a love story - this is a hurdle they have come across and as the hero and heroine they will need to work it out by themselves in a believable way to their character. Hence my original post re: Krishna's expectations.
As mentioned, I watch the show and don't put my western expectation into it at all, just enjoy it for the show and the story for what it is.
Off course violence exists all over the world but it differs as to why and where and how. The show is trying to show a slice of life in a small town.
For krishna to say it doesn't matter - it will only be done when he truly believes in her love. Otherwise it would be going against his character, from what has been shown so far. The real hurt is that he knows she never loved him.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

I see it the other way. Now Krishna will love her for who she is really. Before his love was an idyllic love, really. Part real and part on how he perceives love should be. I don't agree they have been tainted - are you saying people in love should never question each other?😊...A husband and wife have more rights to Qs each other than anyone else. She has nothing to prove except that she loves him.
I am a great believer in the power of love. Love heals every wound and every hurt. Love has the power to renew and reaffirm life. For me, this is a new beginning for Kriya - an honest start with a clean slate. No more secrets (hopefully!) and no more lies. It will be more of an equal relationship now. 😊



Well the new beginning is still some distance away, CVs needs to do something which could clear his mind and he expresses this to pratigya. This will give Pratigya strong reasons to madly fall in love, she succumbed to his feet and later on hugged him for saving her from further disgrace after that face blackening act., which showed that she has accepted him wholeheartedly as her husband who protects and loves her. And was confident that he will get angry but probably she never thought that after she explains her self he will still doubt her purity though.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -athena-



He has all the rights to get depressed and what not over what might have happened...however, why is he making it look like as if it was all Prat's fault???Does he think she willingly went for it???😕...If he really claims to love her, isn't he supposed to think of her pain before his own???

my hindi isn't the greatest but I am pretty sure he never blamed her for the kidnapping. He behaved in a logical manner when he heard. He came home and got his hurt and anguish out. Today she explained but he was still in shock yet he managed to ask why then pay the blackmail and then when she tried to explain she was untouched he said 'don't worry about it'.......It doesn't sound like he is blaming.....he wants to understand, give him time ...so far the timespan is only one day, even then he had just come home and this is their first chat since the revealtion. I'm sure we will be seeing more chats between them, each time they will move a bit closer to understanding each other.
He does love her. But what about someone thinking about him instead, for once?Smile...Love and udnerstanding works both way.......just because she got kidnapped does that mean she gets the sympathy vote i.e. he only understands her pain!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

my hindi isn't the greatest but I am pretty sure he never blamed her for the kidnapping. He behaved in a logical manner when he heard. He came home and got his hurt and anguish out. Today she explained but he was still in shock yet he managed to ask why then pay the blackmail and then when she tried to explain she was untouched he said 'don't worry about it'.......It doesn't sound like he is blaming.....he wants to understand, give him time ...so far the timespan is only one day, even then he had just come home and this is their first chat since the revealtion. I'm sure we will be seeing more chats between them, each time they will move a bit closer to understanding each other.
He does love her. But what about someone thinking about him instead, for once?😊...Love and udnerstanding works both way.......just because she got kidnapped does that mean she gets the sympathy vote i.e. he only understands her pain!!



No dear...he didn't ask her to not to worry about it...On the other hand,he was depressed and feeling sad over her being tainted by Angad...She tried to assure him of her purity, but he aint buying any of that, as according to him a thug like Angad wouldn't kidnap a girl for nothing....Please watch the scene again...

About him or her getting the sympathy...I think she is already being sympathetic towards him and trying to even prove her purity to make him feel better...However, in my humble opinion....a girl who has gone through the trauma deserves some sympathy too...
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Posted: 15 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: -athena-



No dear...he didn't ask her to not to worry about it...On the other hand,he was depressed and feeling sad over her being tainted by Angad...She tried to assure him of her purity, but he aint buying any of that, as according to him a thug like Angad wouldn't kidnap a girl for nothing....Please watch the scene again...

About him or her getting the sympathy...I think she is already being sympathetic towards him and trying to even prove her purity to make him feel better...However, in my humble opinion....a girl who has gone through the trauma deserves some sympathy too...

Athena I completely agree with you as for giving Krishna sympathy isn't that what prats gave him today despite his behavior and false accusations because she is able to understand his pain, he seems to be lacking in this department if he only understood her pain then he would have thought of the pain his wife has been through because of him and due to being kidnapped. But, even after prats told him the exact reason behind her decision to marry him he thought o nothing except for the fact that she may not be pure. This became extremely obvious when he asked her how can he believe that someone like angad let her go without doing anything to her, if he understood her pain he would have sympathized with her situation at least after learning the truth not accuse her of betraying him because angad was capable of raping her. I can understand he is in a shock but he was blaming her for being raped as if she went with angad willingly and she was never kidnapped. In fact this was the worst part today if he was hurt because she hid the truth from him he would have gotten sympathy from everyone but the fact that he does not understand her pain and is blaming her for something she had no control over is what bothers me.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Dreamygal, I just went and watched the scene just for you to make sure I know what I am talking about...(thanks to you I finally watched the show after like almost 2 months...haha).He is very clearly crying over her lost virginity....She tried to assure him saying Angad wasn't even able to lay a finger on her that night...then Krishna asks her as to why did Angad blackmail her family for 5lacks if nothing really happened, for which Prat had no answer and Krishna asks her to just let him be and asks her not to trouble him anymore...She again tries to explain how things happened then, how she thought it was him who kidnapped her and that's why she didn't speak to him about it and when she got to know about who actually did it, by then it was too late...She then concludes it saying whether he believes her or not she is just as pure as she ever was...for which Krishna again says how can he believe a guy like Angad had let her go without touching her....

Now you tell me what that means....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Binny1247

Athena I completely agree with you as for giving Krishna sympathy isn't that what prats gave him today despite his behavior and false accusations because she is able to understand his pain, he seems to be lacking in this department if he only understood her pain then he would have thought of the pain his wife has been through because of him and due to being kidnapped. But, even after prats told him the exact reason behind her decision to marry him he thought o nothing except for the fact that she may not be pure. This became extremely obvious when he asked her how can he believe that someone like angad let her go without doing anything to her, if he understood her pain he would have sympathized with her situation at least after learning the truth not accuse her of betraying him because angad was capable of raping her. I can understand he is in a shock but he was blaming her for being raped as if she went with angad willingly and she was never kidnapped. In fact this was the worst part today if he was hurt because she hid the truth from him he would have gotten sympathy from everyone but the fact that he does not understand her pain and is blaming her for something she had no control over is what bothers me.



Exactly Binny...I finally went and watched the Krishna-Prat scenes and I have NOT sympathy anymore for Krishna...Y'day after reading the update, I was feeling bad for him until he pushed her away...Even that was understandable as he could be in a state of shock...BUT today he completely lost all my sympathy with his atrocious allegations about her virginity....🤢

I wish the director had shown it something like Krishna being heartbroken because she didn't trust him enough to share her pain and that she never loved him to begin with and only married him out of helplessness and revenge....😕
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Posted: 15 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: -athena-



Exactly Binny...I finally went and watched the Krishna-Prat scenes and I have NOT sympathy anymore for Krishna...Y'day after reading the update, I was feeling bad for him until he pushed her away...Even that was understandable as he could be in a state of shock...BUT today he completely lost all my sympathy with his atrocious allegations about her virginity....🤢

I wish the director had shown it something like Krishna being heartbroken because she didn't trust him enough to share her pain and that she never loved him to begin with and only married him out of helplessness and revenge....😕

Yes the fact that he is giving her purity so much importance when he has so many other things to be shocked about which make a lot more sense is truly pathetic. I can't see how her being raped can affect him so much (because it is not her fault) but the fact that the women he claims to love married him for revenge not love did not effect him at all.

I always had doubts about his love for her they have just been justified today, if he truly loved her he would have been hurt with the fact that she did not trust him enough to tell him about her kidnapping but now his love seems more like an obsession to me. He felt she was her property and now he is in pain because he feels she has been blemished. I lost all sympathy for him today as well he is unable to understand her pain and only cares about her purity which is the one thing I refuse to tolerate he just proved today he was no better then his family when it came to understanding pats situation.🤢
Edited by Binny1247 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -athena-

Dreamygal, I just went and watched the scene just for you to make sure I know what I am talking about...(thanks to you I finally watched the show after like almost 2 months...haha).He is very clearly crying over her lost virginity....She tried to assure him saying Angad wasn't even able to lay a finger on her that night...then Krishna asks her as to why did Angad blackmail her family for 5lacks if nothing really happened, for which Prat had no answer and Krishna asks her to just let him be and asks her not to trouble him anymore...She again tries to explain how things happened then, how she thought it was him who kidnapped her and that's why she didn't speak to him about it and when she got to know about who actually did it, by then it was too late...She then concludes it saying whether he believes her or not she is just as pure as she ever was...for which Krishna again says how can he believe a guy like Angad had let her go without touching her....

Now you tell me what that means....

Athena, glad that I made you watch it again..😊...did you stop watching because you were bored?!
And pardon for that, my hindi isn't brillant. What I got when he turned away after saying that was he was too hurt and angry hear it now...because it suited her to tell him now. It all depends on the individual's interpretation really. Two people can see the same thing but would never describe it the same way. I looked at the scene as someone, who got a shock and is now trying to understand it so if he has to ask difficult questions so be it. I'm not going to go into the purity thing because I have already done a post on it so it's pointless to go over the same ground, again and again!!...😊
As for what it means, well again I've already set them down....true to his character/small town setting and etc...perhaps u can look at the previous pages?............be as it may, I think there will always be a difference of opinion but that's ok, that's why the forum is here.
And again I will say a husband has a right to ask these questions, again and again if he must.
As for sympathy for her - well off course I will have sympathy if there hadn't been a lot of faulty thinking and logic. In essence Prats and family made a hash of things, as intended because the story has to go the way it has always been planned, so it's pointless again trying to impose real life emotions on it when it's all a product of a creative mind!😆.
Edited by Dreamygal301 - 15 years ago

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