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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: limits

Hey Diva! Lolzzz... I am still confused about WHAT gave the topic starter even the vague idea that Pratigya could slap her own dad?
I am guessing she meant it sarcastically coz Pratigya is at the top when it comes to slapping in this serial!😆 BUT comparing Prof. Shyam, a father with the likes and levels of Krishna - first a stalker & then a husband who tried to force himself on his wife twice OR Angad - an eave-teaser and a kidnapper ... is wat shocked me!😲😆
And I agree with u and realize that wat u said is the case with MOST Krishna-lubbers... BUT I guess to each their own opinion!


n also, where does the lie come here 😆 as u have written, and as common sense is, she isn't lying! he doesn't even know 'bout this matter n the Prof doesn't want Prats to go and tell Krishna what happened that day!
coz the image that Krishna has projected about himself is tht: Prats is his 'property' ( latest epi.)
that he is so possessive of her tht he can even bury her alive if she goes against his wishes! 👏

was he sane when he claimed he wanted a sherni for himself? I think he meant a genie, who would always say, 'Master, ur wish is my command' 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Binny1247

Hi limits well I completely agree with you on this matter, by the way I find it hard to compare krishna's lie about the pregnancy to pratigya not letting krishna know about something because she fears his usual angry reaction to situations. Krishna completely lied to his parents about his wife being pregnant, which is a shame since he knew how badly they wanted a grandchild. but when he lied his parents knew about the situation and were waiting for him to confirm the news, he also had an opportunity to tell the truth yet he continued to lie and he forced prats to lie. She repeatedly told him and gave him many examples of how the lie could not go on forever and how much it would hurt his family members, and his reaction to her was attempt to rape. Even after tolerating physical and mental abuse because of krishna and his family members she had the guts to tell the truth in front of everyone while her husband stood their and let her take all of the blame since she refused to lie for him. Now even after all of this she did tell her dad she wanted to tell Krishna the truth but it's hard to go against her dad when she knows very well that Krishna is capable of killing angad, and she has seen how obsessive he is of her so i don't blame her if she can't trust someone like him to have faith in her. i have a question though during Krishna's lie it was prats that got slapped right so why would she slap her father. anyways prats has always respected her in laws as well as her family members and she has never humiliated them in public. Even during the pooja I think only the two families were their and they all deserved to know the truth, also creating scenes in front of the public seems to be krishna and his families pass time.

Hi Binny! First of all, I dont really think that Pratigya is EVEN lying about the kidnapping incident... So, I was not really comparing Pratigya NOT letting Krishna know about the kidnapping to Krishna lying about the fake preg... And I totally agree with u - the two CANT be compared, atleast not yet COZ, Pratigya has done nothing to twist the truth about the kidnapping and lie to Krishna about it, so far!
I think the topic starter mentioned the lie about the fake pregnancy incident to highlight how Pratigya took the EASY way and went along with Krishna's lies BUT wat I failed to understand is HOW was trying to make Krishna realize that lying is not right after being choked and almost r***d was the EASY WAY?😕
About slapping her father, like I said in another of my comments, I am guessing that the topic starter meant it sarcastically coz Pratigya slapped Krishna once and Angad twice! BUT, comparing a father to a stalker and an eave-teaser confused me as well! So, I am confused and would also like to know why the topic-starter thought that Pratigya would like to slap her dad?😕
Edited by limits - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi Binny! First of all, I dont really think that Pratigya is EVEN lying about the kidnapping incident... So, I was not really comparing Pratigya NOT letting Krishna know about the kidnapping to Krishna lying about the fake preg... And I totally agree with u - the two CANT be compared, atleast not yet COZ, Pratigya has done nothing to twist the truth about the kidnapping and lie to Krishna about it, so far!
I think the topic starter mentioned the lie about the kidnapping incident to highlight how Pratigya took the EASY way and went along with Krishna's lies BUT wat I failed to understand is HOW was trying to make Krishna realize that lying is not right after being choked and almost r***d was the EASY WAY?😕
About slapping her father, like I said in another of my comments, I am guessing that the topic starter meant it sarcastically coz Pratigya slapped Krishna once and Angad twice! BUT, comparing a father to a stalker and an eave-teaser confused me as well! So, I am confused and would also like to know why the topic-starter thought that Pratigya would like to slap her dad?😕
Hello I did not mean you were comparing the two but from the questions i felt as if the topic starter had prats lying for krishna about the pregnancy in mind while making the questions up. And to tell you the truth I don't think it's possible for prats to be right she would have been questioned no matter what her decision may have been. and so far I don't think she has lied either it's not like krishna has questioned them and they refused to tell him about it, also he doesn't even know a kidnapping took place.
Edited by Binny1247 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: dkmystery


n also, where does the lie come here 😆 as u have written, and as common sense is, she isn't lying! he doesn't even know 'bout this matter n the Prof doesn't want Prats to go and tell Krishna what happened that day!
coz the image that Krishna has projected about himself is tht: Prats is his 'property' ( latest epi.)
that he is so possessive of her tht he can even bury her alive if she goes against his wishes! 👏

was he sane when he claimed he wanted a sherni for himself? I think he meant a genie, who would always say, 'Master, ur wish is my command' 😆

C'mon Diva! If Pratigya can lie about the mantras of a marriage, then lying about the truth which doesnt even exist for Krishna is NADA, NOTHING!!!😉😆
Yeah, even though I dont like the worldly knowledge of the Saxenas, 😆, its not like Krishna showed them how great of a husband he is that he would trust in Pratigya nd her Truth or character... Lolzzz.. He asks 'kono aur chakkar toh nahin' for just a hand-shake and enjoying gol-gappas, so, I really cant blame the Saxenas or Pratigya to not trust Krishna!!!
😆 Yeah, I guess Krishna was transported to planet Kukoo after losing himself in his love for Pratigya and was speaking non-sense when he said he wanted a sherni coz soo far, his temper portrayed something completely opposite of his wishes!!!😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Binny1247


Hi Binny! First of all, I dont really think that Pratigya is EVEN lying about the kidnapping incident... So, I was not really comparing Pratigya NOT letting Krishna know about the kidnapping to Krishna lying about the fake preg... And I totally agree with u - the two CANT be compared, atleast not yet COZ, Pratigya has done nothing to twist the truth about the kidnapping and lie to Krishna about it, so far!
I think the topic starter mentioned the lie about the kidnapping incident to highlight how Pratigya took the EASY way and went along with Krishna's lies BUT wat I failed to understand is HOW was trying to make Krishna realize that lying is not right after being choked and almost r***d was the EASY WAY?😕
About slapping her father, like I said in another of my comments, I am guessing that the topic starter meant it sarcastically coz Pratigya slapped Krishna once and Angad twice! BUT, comparing a father to a stalker and an eave-teaser confused me as well! So, I am confused and would also like to know why the topic-starter thought that Pratigya would like to slap her dad?😕

Hello I did not mean you were comparing the two but from the questions i felt as if the topic starter had prats lying for krishna about the pregnancy in mind while making the questions up. And to tell you the truth I don't think it's possible for prats to be right she would have been questioned no matter what her decision may have been. and so far I don't think she has lied either it's not like krishna has questioned them and they refused to tell him, also he doesn't even know a kidnapping took place.
Oopsie! I just realized after reading ur comment that the highlighted word was my mistake, it should be the fake pregnancy.😳😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: limits

C'mon Diva! If Pratigya can lie about the mantras of a marriage, then lying about the truth which doesnt even exist for Krishna is NADA, NOTHING!!!😉😆
Yeah, even though I dont like the worldly knowledge of the Saxenas, 😆, its not like Krishna showed them how great of a husband he is that he would trust in Pratigya nd her Truth or character... Lolzzz.. He asks 'kono aur chakkar toh nahin' for just a hand-shake and enjoying gol-gappas, so, I really cant blame the Saxenas or Pratigya to not trust Krishna!!!
😆 Yeah, I guess Krishna was transported to planet Kukoo after losing himself in his love for Pratigya and was speaking non-sense when he said he wanted a sherni coz soo far, his temper portrayed something completely opposite of his wishes!!!😆


so limitwa, we come to the conclusion that whatever Prats does is wrong! bechara Krishna uske saath fas gaya hai and is so scared of her that he can't even leave her!

Prats is the biggest liar in this world. Being educated is the worst thing that can happen with a girl. Kesar, Amma n Pissiya are the latest n best ideals for girls.

If a 'hot' guy comes across n claims his love for a girl, the girl should just fall in love with him and she doesn't have the right to her feelings.

A girl should always believe that 'pati is parmeshwar' and that he can treat her in any way he likes, and she should never use her brains but remember that she is merely a woman and not a human!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: dkmystery


so limitwa, we come to the conclusion that whatever Prats does is wrong! bechara Krishna uske saath fas gaya hai and is so scared of her that he can't even leave her!

Prats is the biggest liar in this world. Being educated is the worst thing that can happen with a girl. Kesar, Amma n Pissiya are the latest n best ideals for girls.

If a 'hot' guy comes across n claims his love for a girl, the girl should just fall in love with him and she doesn't have the right to her feelings.

A girl should always believe that 'pati is parmeshwar' and that he can treat her in any way he likes, and she should never use her brains but remember that she is merely a woman and not a human!

Lolzzz Diva! YUP! I guess we succeeded to SEE the LIGHT, FINALLY!😉😆 U know, reading some comments, I honestly started thinking that being educated is such a drag!!!😆 Oooh! Ideal women! BUT why am I feeling soo glad that I'm NOT an ideal woman?😕😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: limits

Lolzzz Diva! YUP! I guess we succeeded to SEE the LIGHT, FINALLY!😉😆 U know, reading some comments, I honestly started thinking that being educated is such a drag!!!😆 Oooh! Ideal women! BUT why am I feeling soo glad that I'm NOT an ideal woman?😕😆


seriously mate, I don't understand why educated members( I think they are coz they are able to type in their views) are so against education that they jump on it every time? 😆 I'm sure these are frustrated kids fed up of school 🤣
n me too am not an ideal woman by these standards! should I cry or or should i be glad? 😕 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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The argument that since Krishna does not know about the kidnapping , technically speaking Pratigya is not LYING at all is indeed a classic defense of Pratigya .😆 . So Long as the other person does not even know that something has happened related to him [ coz Krishnas tattoo was used in the kidnapping to create a BIG misunderstanding ] it is ok to conveniently keep the facts from him and that it seems is not LYING but EXERCISING A CHOICE [ of course . To Protect The family as an add on . I married the stalker to protect the family .I kept the facts of the kidnapping to protect the family .This Add on is so convenient to be used in the future to cloak immature , irresponsible decisions .]
There is a story in the Mahabharatha about Yudhishtir , the eldest Pandava who was known for his Truthful nature .His Glory was that he NEVER lied in his life . So In the Mahabharatha war , when the rumor was circulated purposefully to weaken DRona , that his son Ashwathama was dead , Drona , not knowing what the truth was , went to Yudhistir , confident that HE wud never lie although he was in the enemy camp . He asked him , is this true ? Did my son die today ?
Yudhistir answered YES loudly and in a very low tone said ........NAROVA KUNJAROVA ........meaning , the human or elephant [ there was an elephant named Ashwathama too ] I dont know . To Keep Yudhistir's vow of truth intact so TECHNICALLY he should not lie , Krishna had an elephant called Ashwatyhama killed .
Drona tottered away , after hearing the YES . Trained By Krishna , YUdhistir was technically 'saved' from LYING .
The Gods did not see it that way . During his last journey to death , He was made to stand outside the gates of heaven and made answerable for this LIE .
There is no technicality in this honesty and lying business .It is a matter of the soul ..........and thats the reason Pratigya was instinctively uneasy about it . If She was technically so NIRDOSH why that quaver of uneasiness ? Why the blunt statement YEH THEEK NAHI HAI ?
Answer is simple.........COZ verily , truly , it WASN"T THEEK . She was right FOR ONCE . Very right . She shud NOT have listened to her father .Did she consult her father before calling the police ? She told her surprised father after the police arrived that I called them . Well She shud have shown how grown up she was by going straight to the Adda and telling Krishna the full truth .
Why wud she care IF the marraige broke ?she doesn't love Krishna anyways .....not even after knowing he was not behind the kidnapping . He was sumone fORCED upon her by tragic fate , right ? So why care ? Let It break ! Good riddance to bad rubbish ! Good riddance to the man who caught her throat , tried to rape her , involved her in a lie ! This was the PERFECT opportunity to get rid of him .......a god given one !
Why didnt the Sherni have the guts to question her father Dad , what marraige r u trying to save ? I dont really have one !It was a bad marraige from day one ! To save something , something has to exist , we never had anything on any level ! So U know what , I dont care if he breaks the marraige , Im gonna tell him the truth ! If he Kills Angad thats his problem and btw , it will be beneficial for us and Arushi !I have nothing to lose !
I wud really admire her then . But she admits to her mom that inspite of the kidnapping being cleared , Im still not in love with him and perhaps may never be . And then agrees to her Dads request !
Krishna lied to make Sajjan Singh happy in his own immature way . What is the purpose of this lie ?She is not intending to go back and make him happy at all , she will 'need time' to come around ! So why lie ?
When the lie comes out will she tell a public gathering that HE my father , MADE ME LIE ? Oh no , she is sanskaari ! One of the sanskaars is lie till you are blue in your face but protect the dignity of your elders !
But where the dignity of your husband is concerned , strip it naked in public ! That is no sanskaar ! Give examples of holy fires and how wrong it is to lie in front of them !
The marraige holy fire and the mantras that it seems one hardly even understands .............taking a vow verbally there that I will give my husband happiness forever ......it is ok to manipulate tHAT HOLY fire with excuses like .........ummm........The priest said the mantras !Not Pratigya ! Or ......does Krishna the unpadh know the meaning of the mantras ? So how r u blaming Pratigya for toying with the mantras ? Now that vow before that holy fire was taken but NOT observed and NAFRAT is my AGENDA was revealed on suhaag Raat Night !
So Selective principles , selective stands against lying and ah ! Selective Holy Fires ! In front of some she justttt cant lie , in front of some she can ! And when fires r not there , she totally CAN LIE ! Technically she is safe and technically holy fire is not there baba !
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

The argument that since Krishna does not know about the kidnapping , technically speaking Pratigya is not LYING at all is indeed a classic defense of Pratigya .😆 . So Long as the other person does not even know that something has happened related to him [ coz Krishnas tattoo was used in the kidnapping to create a BIG misunderstanding ] it is ok to conveniently keep the facts from him and that it seems is not LYING but EXERCISING A CHOICE [ of course . To Protect The family as an add on . I married the stalker to protect the family .I kept the facts of the kidnapping to protect the family .This Add on is so convenient to be used in the future to cloak immature , irresponsible decisions .]

There is a story in the Mahabharatha about Yudhishtir , the eldest Pandava who was known for his Truthful nature .His Glory was that he NEVER lied in his life . So In the Mahabharatha war , when the rumor was circulated purposefully to weaken DRona , that his son Ashwathama was dead , Drona , not knowing what the truth was , went to Yudhistir , confident that HE wud never lie although he was in the enemy camp . He asked him , is this true ? Did my son die today ?
Yudhistir answered YES loudly and in a very low tone said ........NAROVA KUNJAROVA ........meaning , the human or elephant [ there was an elephant named Ashwathama too ] I dont know . To Keep Yudhistir's vow of truth intact so TECHNICALLY he should not lie , Krishna had an elephant called Ashwatyhama killed .
Drona tottered away , after hearing the YES . Trained By Krishna , YUdhistir was technically 'saved' from LYING .
The Gods did not see it that way . During his last journey to death , He was made to stand outside the gates of heaven and made answerable for this LIE .
There is no technicality in this honesty and lying business .It is a matter of the soul ..........and thats the reason Pratigya was instinctively uneasy about it . If She was technically so NIRDOSH why that quaver of uneasiness ? Why the blunt statement YEH THEEK NAHI HAI ?
Answer is simple.........COZ verily , truly , it WASN"T THEEK . She was right FOR ONCE . Very right . She shud NOT have listened to her father .Did she consult her father before calling the police ? She told her surprised father after the police arrived that I called them . Well She shud have shown how grown up she was by going straight to the Adda and telling Krishna the full truth .
Why wud she care IF the marraige broke ?she doesn't love Krishna anyways .....not even after knowing he was not behind the kidnapping . He was sumone fORCED upon her by tragic fate , right ? So why care ? Let It break ! Good riddance to bad rubbish ! Good riddance to the man who caught her throat , tried to rape her , involved her in a lie ! This was the PERFECT opportunity to get rid of him .......a god given one !
Why didnt the Sherni have the guts to question her father Dad , what marraige r u trying to save ? I dont really have one !It was a bad marraige from day one ! To save something , something has to exist , we never had anything on any level ! So U know what , I dont care if he breaks the marraige , Im gonna tell him the truth ! If he Kills Angad thats his problem and btw , it will be beneficial for us and Arushi !I have nothing to lose !
I wud really admire her then . But she admits to her mom that inspite of the kidnapping being cleared , Im still not in love with him and perhaps may never be . And then agrees to her Dads request !
Krishna lied to make Sajjan Singh happy in his own immature way . What is the purpose of this lie ?She is not intending to go back and make him happy at all , she will 'need time' to come around ! So why lie ?
When the lie comes out will she tell a public gathering that HE my father , MADE ME LIE ? Oh no , she is sanskaari ! One of the sanskaars is lie till you are blue in your face but protect the dignity of your elders !
But where the dignity of your husband is concerned , strip it naked in public ! That is no sanskaar ! Give examples of holy fires and how wrong it is to lie in front of them !
The marraige holy fire and the mantras that it seems one hardly even understands .............taking a vow verbally there that I will give my husband happiness forever ......it is ok to manipulate tHAT HOLY fire with excuses like .........ummm........The priest said the mantras !Not Pratigya ! Or ......does Krishna the unpadh know the meaning of the mantras ? So how r u blaming Pratigya for toying with the mantras ? Now that vow before that holy fire was taken but NOT observed and NAFRAT is my AGENDA was revealed on suhaag Raat Night !
So Selective principles , selective stands against lying and ah ! Selective Holy Fires ! In front of some she justttt cant lie , in front of some she can ! And when fires r not there , she totally CAN LIE ! Technically she is safe and technically holy fire is not there baba !
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