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meerag thumbnail
Posted: 15 years ago
#81
Are you seriously saying that it is alright for a man to hit his wife if she diagrees with him in public. So a man opinion is more important than a womans. So a woman should just shut up and take the abuse from the in-laws???? First of all as a mother I would not want such in-laws for my daughters. I am teaching them that they are as precious to me as their brother. That I am always their for them and they don't have to put up with abuse. My mother taught me the same thing. NO MAN HAS A RIGHT TO HIT IS WIFE. I did not feel like Krishna's apology was genuine. It looked like a sarcistic apology.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: meerag

Are you seriously saying that it is alright for a man to hit his wife if she diagrees with him in public. So a man opinion is more important than a womans. So a woman should just shut up and take the abuse from the in-laws???? First of all as a mother I would not want such in-laws for my daughters. I am teaching them that they are as precious to me as their brother. That I am always their for them and they don't have to put up with abuse. My mother taught me the same thing. NO MAN HAS A RIGHT TO HIT IS WIFE. I did not feel like Krishna's apology was genuine. It looked like a sarcistic apology.

In this age of equality the same rule applies to a woman too , meerag .
Pratigya goes around slapping men when she loses her temper doesnt she ? She slapped Angad , she slapped Krishna, her mom slapped Adarsh .......we see women slapping men rampantly in this serial .
She made a big issue of being SLAPPED . I am not talking of domestic abuse here like Shakti does ............just about a slap given in a fit of anger .
When she is in a fit of anger she does not hesitate to vent it out via a slap . All that is enough for her is that she feels she is justified in doing so . Well Krishna felt justified in giving her a slap coz she had pushed him in a corner by being extremely non adjusting in that marraige .
And no amount of apology it seems is good enough .Well then she shud file for divorce.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#83
Isn't it wonderful that Krishna-Prtigya would finally be out of that mad house ? Krishna will get a chance to prove himself as a 'laayak' husband who can take responsibility for his wife.
Why should Pratigya say sorry to her saas-sasur when her sasur was the one who dragged her out of the house. Is that how a sasur would behave with his DIL in a decent family ? That was so disgusting !!
Elders should forgive their children if they have made any mistakes and not be so adamant about some ' maafi'. How can he ask her to ask for forgiveness woh bhi naak ragake. Hats off to Pratigya for staying in that mad house for so many days !!
Krishna did one good thing IMO by leaving the house with his wife.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In this age of equality the same rule applies to a woman too , meerag .
Pratigya goes around slapping men when she loses her temper doesnt she ? She slapped Angad , she slapped Krishna, her mom slapped Adarsh .......we see women slapping men rampantly in this serial .
She made a big issue of being SLAPPED . I am not talking of domestic abuse here like Shakti does ............just about a slap given in a fit of anger .
When she is in a fit of anger she does not hesitate to vent it out via a slap . All that is enough for her is that she feels she is justified in doing so . Well Krishna felt justified in giving her a slap coz she had pushed him in a corner by being extremely non adjusting in that marraige .
And no amount of apology it seems is good enough .Well then she shud file for divorce.



As a woman I find the so called "faltu feminism" hypocritical. If as women we demand equal rights in society then we should be ready to even the playing field and play by the same rules. If not the entire game is a hoax.. We can't pull the gender card from the back pocket to say "I am a woman how dare he slap me". The woman has to apply the same rules and not hit a man either.
Men often overpower with physical strength when cornered and women use emotional and mind games to mess up the men.

She made a CHOICE to slap a total stranger on the train without forethought about the potential fall out from her actions. Even her father was terrified about the consequences and told her she shouldn't have done such a thing. Society has not changed that much that she can get away with it. Doesn't work in a modern western society let alone a small town in India. Within days she was terrified and fleeing from the same man twice until Krishna came to protect her and beat up Angad.

The reality is that unless she has trained herself in martial arts of some kind, going around slapping men esp. those with big but fragile egos will create a nightmare in her life. What happens when they decide to get physical in their retaliation?

Even when she slapped Krishna not once but twice at her engagement , being an angry Tacurse he raised his hand but never hit her when humiliated in public bec' he loved her.

Prats character is a classic example of how a woman SHOULD NOT live in a marriage. In real life it will create in so many lives. Krishna has been patient with her and all bec' he loves her and she is using that to serve her own agenda. She has neither appreciated his efforts nor given him a smile in recognition of his little actions esp. when he brought her rabdi.

What we see now is a cold hearted woman who is lying to herself about who she is and what she stands for hiding behind her so called sanskaars and principles. I hope the creatives address the lessons Prats needs to learn along the way as well. This show could be an eye opener esp. to the young women who watch the show about the ripple effects of a woman's behavior that reaches far and affects many lives in the process.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#85
So it is ok for men to grop girls in trains and buses???? When are we going as a society going to stop this. As a woman is to wrong to make a statement that she does no liked to be molested by strangers. Don't we have the right to use public transport without the fear of harassment???? How would you feel if a stranger came and grabed your hand on your engageent day like Krishna did. In both cases I feel that Pratigya was justified in her actions because both these men behaved rudely with her. She got slapped for telling the truth. A big difference in my eyes.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In this age of equality the same rule applies to a woman too , meerag .
Pratigya goes around slapping men when she loses her temper doesnt she ? She slapped Angad , she slapped Krishna, her mom slapped Adarsh .......we see women slapping men rampantly in this serial .
She made a big issue of being SLAPPED . I am not talking of domestic abuse here like Shakti does ............just about a slap given in a fit of anger .
When she is in a fit of anger she does not hesitate to vent it out via a slap . All that is enough for her is that she feels she is justified in doing so . Well Krishna felt justified in giving her a slap coz she had pushed him in a corner by being extremely non adjusting in that marraige .
And no amount of apology it seems is good enough .Well then she shud file for divorce.



Yes of course Pratigya is wrong by slapping Angad and Krishna..what Angad did..nothing..he just teased her and touched her inappropriately in public..or in private..and Pratigya invited Angad to do so...yes ..so bad Pratigya..you slapped Angad..very wrong..

And so what..Krishna barged into her engagement party,abused her.abused her family..would be groom...that was also okay..Pratigya ..what did you do?

Itni chhoti si baat pe gussa ho gayi..you should have let Angad to touch you more intimately..under your dress actually..and of course..you should have encourage Krishna to do mess in your engagement party..Pratigya ..you are a spoil sport..🤢😛





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Posted: 15 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: meerag

So it is ok for men to grop girls in trains and buses???? When are we going as a society going to stop this. As a woman is to wrong to make a statement that she does no liked to be molested by strangers. Don't we have the right to use public transport without the fear of harassment???? How would you feel if a stranger came and grabed your hand on your engageent day like Krishna did. In both cases I feel that Pratigya was justified in her actions because both these men behaved rudely with her. She got slapped for telling the truth. A big difference in my eyes.



Exactly...both are not at all equal case..that time she slapped to protect herself to get molested..after that she was angry for the chaos ..unwanted mess in that engagement ceremony..but what for she got slapped?BIG DIFFERENCE..



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Posted: 15 years ago
#88
[lastmin,

I can empathise with your perspective about the husband slap.

however, she insulted him in public, he slapped her in public. fine. he was reacting. it was not something he planned from the minute she came in the room.

later he apologized in public. that impacted his ego and public image (which believe me is very necessary for him becasue without esucation the image of force and strength is necessary for his livelihood). he needed to because he had slapped her. fine he did it. then what.

lets' place ourselves in this situation. we are educated. we are worldly. we are married. if my husband slapped me. i would got upset. mad in fact. he came and apologized. what would be the next step? either working on a reconciliation or applying for divorce.

depending on your tolerance level you would pick either one. why did she not? seperation does not work and definitely not when lines of communication are closed forever. because then you have an impasse. and my friend, an impasse in marriage is more frustrating for men than women because Men do not typically possess the necessary mental fortitude to deal with dramatics and histerics. men react with visible forms of rebellion, i.e anger, passion, aggression. women are different types of creatures. when we are hurt we withdraw internally and react with strategy and other forms of subtle rebellion i.e. cold shoulder treatment,e tc. both reacted predicatably.

my question is this:

when he had to apologize the ball was in his court.

he apologized. then what, the ball went in her court.

what happens when u hold the ball for so long. timeout. game restarts. different set of rules because obviously you did not understand or appreciate the last ones. this is life. this is the worldly version of fair play. we see this logic applied in our lives, our sports, our politics, etc. lets be realistic here.

the girl has a gigantic chip on her shoulder, her so called self respect is not a matter of principles but a matter of defiance. her sense of logic and self preservation has deserted her in the last few days, in my opinion.

the way I see it. she has gone parasailing (marriage) in extremely stormy waters (singh household) with no parachute (strategy or plan) just a hope (her idealistic mission) and a prayer and the mental and emotional support of her family from ashore. Would you or I or any sensible person do that? when you get whipped int he face by the raging winds, you wait for the storm to pass and then get down to earth. our girl is still parasailing and she still does not have a parachute just a hope and a prayer. 😃😃😃

would you or I do that?
Well - I guess I will agree to disagree 😊 !! As a parent and as a wife, I would not be able to justify Krishna's behavior. Now, because I am watching the serial from an outsider's POV, I can understand that Krishna does not know how to express his love and can understand his frustration!!!! But being a woman, I can completely understand Pratigya's POV too!!! I enjoyed the discussion that I had with you, but I think I am in a different age bracket than you and that seems to be why I am seeing things from a different perspective!!! Looking forward to more discussions such as this one!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#89
Atma samman means self respect
A person who does not know how to respect others does not know the meaning of this term
Saying bluntly to someone that Ur not worthy of me shows immense arrogance
Looking down on an uneducared person as a monster is terrific ego
Pratigya doesnt know the meaning of the bookish terms she uses .Period .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Atma samman means self respect

A person who does not know how to respect others does not know the meaning of this term
Saying bluntly to someone that Ur not worthy of me shows immense arrogance
Looking down on an uneducared person as a monster is terrific ego
Pratigya doesnt know the meaning of the bookish terms she uses .Period .



@bold Absolutely right. I will repeat what I wrote in another post. Krishna and his folks can't demand respect, they have to earn it. Its a 2 ways street. In no decent family, a sasur drags his bahu out of the house and uses such demeaning words for her, a husband raises his hand on her and humiliates her publicly. He and his family haven't done anything to earn her respect.
Edited by --Anu-- - 15 years ago

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