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Posted: 15 years ago
#61
hi merarai. good to see u back. wondering where u were? interesting when you, krishna chalbo and kai are online at kool's thread. you seem to be regulars on her pratigya threads. 👍🏼😃😃

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kai_Hiwatari

aun vaitha raatichi 3 zali! chalo guys see u tomorrow!!



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Krishna was actually cornered today by his father and his wife / sasural...For sometime SS was keep instigating Krishna's ego by telling him to wear bangles...He was challenged to bring Pratigya home...and when he brings back her by hook or crook SS is not budging and instead he posed one more challenge that he has to listen to his rules, if he lives under his roof...

Krishna is all trying to resolve the matter but sensed its failure and he choose to accept the challenge by SS... at this point he can not send Pratigya back as everyone will mock Krishna that he left Pratigya because he couldn't take responsibility of his wife and that is why he left her in her maayka...

From story point of view it accomplishes
1. Amma's plan backfired her
2. To prove everyone (including viewers) that Krishna can self sustain...it is the struggle for his survival...
3. To make Pratigya aware that Krishna takes his responsibilities seriously as equal to as any men out there...
4. To close the door for Shyam Ji for asking money from Krishna and keep Pratigya out of this Angad loop...
5. And keep the issue unresolved for few days...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rightchoice

Krishna was actually cornered today by his father and his wife / sasural...For sometime SS was keep instigating Krishna's ego by telling him to wear bangles...He was challenged to bring Pratigya home...and when he brings back her by hook or crook SS is not budging and instead he posed one more challenge that he has to listen to his rules, if he lives under his roof...

Krishna is all trying to resolve the matter but sensed its failure and he choose to accept the challenge by SS... at this point he can not send Pratigya back as everyone will mock Krishna that he left Pratigya because he couldn't take responsibility of his wife and that is why he left her in her maayka...

From story point of view it accomplishes
1. Amma's plan backfired her
2. To prove everyone (including viewers) that Krishna can self sustain...it is the struggle for his survival...
3. To make Pratigya aware that Krishna takes his responsibilities seriously as equal to as any men out there...
4. To close the door for Shyam Ji for asking money from Krishna and keep Pratigya out of this Angad loop...
5. And keep the issue unresolved for few days...




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Posted: 15 years ago
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i agree with the topic starter 20000000%!!! pratigya is just a stubborn person and education as nothing to do with it.. its her nature.. her parents did not raise her correctly.. they did not teach her the realities of life where everyone has to compromise at some point in time even if it doesnt make sense... also, krishna is a human.. he has a limit too... he has no idea why pratigya doesnt like him nor does he know why her family hates him because she has never mentioned anything to him... the reason why he treated her the way he did when he finally took her was because he is frustrated... it is very much out of krishna's charachter to put his wife at gun point and the fact that he came to this just shows how frustrated he is... he is truly stuck between his arrogant wife and his loving father... thats an extremely tough place to be in and anyone would react irrationally... anyways i really feel bad for thakurs because they r stuck with such a bahu who doesnt care about them one bit.... 😭
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: *queenme*

i agree with the topic starter 20000000%!!! pratigya is just a stubborn person and education as nothing to do with it.. its her nature.. her parents did not raise her correctly.. they did not teach her the realities of life where everyone has to compromise at some point in time even if it doesnt make sense.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.. also, krishna is a human.. he has a limit too... he has no idea why pratigya doesnt like him nor does he know why her family hates him because she has never mentioned anything to him... the reason why he treated her the way he did when he finally took her was because he is frustrated... it is very much out of krishna's charachter to put his wife at gun point and the fact that he came to this just shows how frustrated he is... he is truly stuck between his arrogant wife and his loving father... 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 thats an extremely tough place to be in and anyone would react irrationally... anyways i really feel bad for thakurs because they r stuck with such a bahu who doesnt care about them one bit....



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillhopeful

hi merarai. good to see u back. wondering where u were? interesting when you, krishna chalbo and kai are online at kool's thread. you seem to be regulars on her pratigya threads. 👍🏼😃😃

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Hey Hope (love the name btw).I will be somewhere on these threads adding my few dollars worth about this show. 😉😃😲 Krishna chalbo and I have been here with the Prat show since the early days and have similar POVs. Kai recently joined in and it's fun to have a healthy discussion about the characters without arguing about it from a gender stance. Since kools and you joined in it has made it all the more interesting. Kools's post reflect my thoughts right on. Keep posting! 👍🏼

I prefer to look at the characters from who needs to take the next positive step towards making it work. Right now Krishna seems to putting in all the effort. If a time comes when Prats is doing the same then I will call Krishna's behavior to task about it as well. I like to see people make the effort to make a relationship work.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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I can bet it that the day they TAME Krishna the TRPS would go down the drain.
Like it or not the x-factor of the show is KRishna. His conditional love that she shoudl have eyes only for him, the way he talks, walks and lives. THe way he is ready to do everything for Pratigya ji.
So if the writers are thinking about taming him then be ready for the TRPs drop.
The serial is going to to die that day.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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No u didnt offend me I respect your view
My point is............Stretching it this far to the point of not having a marraige ..............is not done .What does she want , a divorce ?Even after all tis stretching if she enters the house victorious is it really a victory ?Coz in their hearts she will create hatred in the sasural peoples mind .
Marraige is of some months only till now and she is creating such a ruckus ? What about adjustment , love , striving to bring happiness in the family u marry into ? She keeps boasting of her perfect sanskaars ..........where r they ?I dont see them ! If she has issues with Krishna sort them out , talk to him .Tell him what exactly offended u , what hurt u .
She has seen with her own eyes how much sasural people bent although they were grooms family by constantly coming to her door to ask for her hand . That is a big deal by Indian standards . But she is stretching this issue too far and for what ?what is her goal ?Granted she may win this ego round but then what ?
This is not atma samman it is blunt ego . Apologising to elders is not bending as such . She told in front of all elders in a joint family that I am leaving the house .SHE told it first . R they supposed to be happy about it ?
What is this issue of a slap she is making ? She slapped Angad , Her mom slaps them all the time ..........Slaps r a way of life there it seems . Her husband slapped her when she embarassed him by shamelessly blurting bedroom secrets in front of a gathering . So is her problem with a slap as a way of life ?If so she is hypocrite as she herself slapped Angad and Nainaji slapped her but she demannded no apology . Who is she kidding ?
She is making far too much about this and being so non adjusting , so arrogant are not sanskaars at all . My opinion purely .
I think in our liking (and believe me - I reaaallly liiikkkke him ;-) ) the character of Krishna we r forgetting some of the big blunders he made prior to the marriage, added to that Pratigya at this point in time believes that he was the one that had beaten Nitin and kidnapped her too.
When someone has crossed all limits in your mind - not only is it not easy to love the person, it is extremely difficult to even breathe the same air around him. How can u discuss anything with a person in such a situation? However, Pratigya did adjust to the marriage, she did fulfill her duties as a DIL. Can you imagine living with someone who thinks killing someone is okay?
The issue of slapping, there is world of difference in when your mother slaps you and when your own husband slaps you. Your husband is your partner, and the saat pheras in hindu religion specify and stress the equality and respect in that relationship. Add to that when your partner slaps you for being truthful (however much wrong it was on Pratigya's part to bring it out in the open, she was not being dishonest) , then it is not ego that comes into play, but plain and simple selfrespect . When a partner insults someone to this extent, it is but natural selfpreservation and self respect kicks in.
PS - I am enjoying this discussion, please don't take it in the wrong way. I have been married for more than 15 years, and I know that if I had had the courage to put my foot down in the early days, my life would have been much smoother than it has been. During rough patches, if your partner does not step up to the plate, all one has left is self respect which carries you through it - believe me!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: lastmin

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No u didnt offend me I respect your view
My point is............Stretching it this far to the point of not having a marraige ..............is not done .What does she want , a divorce ?Even after all tis stretching if she enters the house victorious is it really a victory ?Coz in their hearts she will create hatred in the sasural peoples mind .
Marraige is of some months only till now and she is creating such a ruckus ? What about adjustment , love , striving to bring happiness in the family u marry into ? She keeps boasting of her perfect sanskaars ..........where r they ?I dont see them ! If she has issues with Krishna sort them out , talk to him .Tell him what exactly offended u , what hurt u .
She has seen with her own eyes how much sasural people bent although they were grooms family by constantly coming to her door to ask for her hand . That is a big deal by Indian standards . But she is stretching this issue too far and for what ?what is her goal ?Granted she may win this ego round but then what ?
This is not atma samman it is blunt ego . Apologising to elders is not bending as such . She told in front of all elders in a joint family that I am leaving the house .SHE told it first . R they supposed to be happy about it ?
What is this issue of a slap she is making ? She slapped Angad , Her mom slaps them all the time ..........Slaps r a way of life there it seems . Her husband slapped her when she embarassed him by shamelessly blurting bedroom secrets in front of a gathering . So is her problem with a slap as a way of life ?If so she is hypocrite as she herself slapped Angad and Nainaji slapped her but she demannded no apology . Who is she kidding ?
She is making far too much about this and being so non adjusting , so arrogant are not sanskaars at all . My opinion purely .

I think in our liking (and believe me - I reaaallly liiikkkke him ;-) ) the character of Krishna we r forgetting some of the big blunders he made prior to the marriage, added to that Pratigya at this point in time believes that he was the one that had beaten Nitin and kidnapped her too.
When someone has crossed all limits in your mind - not only is it not easy to love the person, it is extremely difficult to even breathe the same air around him. How can u discuss anything with a person in such a situation? However, Pratigya did adjust to the marriage, she did fulfill her duties as a DIL. Can you imagine living with someone who thinks killing someone is okay?
The issue of slapping, there is world of difference in when your mother slaps you and when your own husband slaps you. Your husband is your partner, and the saat pheras in hindu religion specify and stress the equality and respect in that relationship. Add to that when your partner slaps you for being truthful (however much wrong it was on Pratigya's part to bring it out in the open, she was not being dishonest) , then it is not ego that comes into play, but plain and simple selfrespect . When a partner insults someone to this extent, it is but natural selfpreservation and self respect kicks in.
PS - I am enjoying this discussion, please don't take it in the wrong way. I have been married for more than 15 years, and I know that if I had had the courage to put my foot down in the early days, my life would have been much smoother than it has been. During rough patches, if your partner does not step up to the plate, all one has left is self respect which carries you through it - believe me!!!


The simple truth is one has to look at the personality of the person they are dealing with when trying to bring them around. Generally speaking no man or woman will be motivated to put in the effort to make a few changes in the best interests of both persons in the marriage if there is nothing but constant criticism, ridicule and public humiliation. You can attract bees with honey not vinegar. It also depends on the tolerance level of the persons involved.

Kesar as a woman has given in to her lot in life and keeps her mouth shut and bears the abuse. Krishna on the other hand is pushing back at times and taking the "abuse" from Prats bec' he has no clue how to deal with a woman. He is used to seeing the women in his family suppressed and following the rules set by the men of the house. He knew Prats wasn't going to be like them but he probably never expected the polar opposite of the women he has know who is stubborn even for her own good. He has shown patience and understanding and when the feedback is more of the same he loses his cool and acts out.

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