What Atma Sammaan ?

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Today Pratigya gave a speech about Atma Sammaan . I wont ever compromise with my Atma Sammaan she said . U can bring me here but I wont say sorry she said . Ok .

Now where was this Atma sammaan when she agreed to this marraige against her will ? That time she kept aside her Atma sammaan and mariied , is it ? This means at times she does put her Atma Sammaan on hold .
So whats the problem in apologising to elders ? They were not demanding much .........she had indeed rubbed their faces in mud before going .For starters , SHE had said I am leaving the house .........SS had not told her to . In a typical Indian household , in rural hometown , if the bahu blurts bedroom secrets purposefully in front of all , shames the family ., makes the boy's family aware that she is not sleeping with their son and giving him any kind of marital happiness , is the boys family seriously supposed to love her and go to fetch her back or advise their son to divorce her and start afresh ?
For a small town Gal , Pratigya is doing far too much . If she had been married to that Nitin and same secrets were blurted in front of all wud Her saas tolerate her for even one minute in the house ?Wud Jagmohan come to fetch her ? Fetch her for what ?For not giving his son any happiness and such an endless possibility in the future ?
A non consummated marraige , a rigid attitude , innumerable insults to Krishna to the point of telling him Ur not worthy of me............Pratigya talks of atma sammaan when she herself does not even know the name of what sammaaan is as she doesnt respect her husband nor the wishes of others .She cares a damn for Komals life , her bros happiness , her familys reputation now , disrespects her husband as if he is garbage , .................She who does not know the meaning of how respect is given to others how is she demanding atma samman ?
Krishna constantly calls her Pratigya Ji . She calls him KRISHNA
She calls herself HUM and him TUM
Right from her choice in saris to getting her approval on the type of wedding invitation cards Krishna tried to know about her choices and please her . What did she do ?
Sajjan Singh may be a chauvinist and treat his wife badly but with his children he is very loving in his own rustic , uneducated way .His love is genuine . He is tender to Komal , he hasnt slapped her once although she is a girl .She is his flower , his Komaliya . Right from indulging her wishes in eating to planning to build a bigger house for her , Sajjan singh dotes on Komal .
Same with Krishna. What didnt he do for Krishna ? He went twice with shagun to the house of a diffrent caste gal only so that his son shud be happy .When Krishna cut his wrists he bandaged them and told Shakti U wudnt know , U gotta be a Dad for seeing your child in pain . The Saxenas were cold like ice and never even returned his greeting ...forget offering him refreshments. Sajjan Singh tolerated Krishna's innumerable backanswers . Anyday , Sajjan Singh the mcp loves Krishna thousand times more than Pratigya .
Why shud Krishna not realise this ? Why shud he place Pratigya above his father who loved him so much , who watched him fondly as he tied the turban around his head and made him go to ask for a Kayasth gal's hand although it deeply offended his traditional sensibilities ? Does Krishna even know how much his father , egoistic though he is , bent for him ? When he kept his Atma Samaan time and again aside for his son , why is Pratigya , an educated gal making such an issue about it to the point that her marraige also might break ?
Giving blatant arrogance the name of Atma Sammaan is not correct .If one is educated he shud show educaion in another way ...by being humble but still doing the right thing in actions .Constant Tu Tu Mai Mai with elders , telling them they shud bend by coming to fetch , refusing to apologize for ur own deeds is simply not done .
Krishna has no problems seeing his Father bend but is going to pamper Pratigya's non bending stance .Well the creatives are turning Krishna into a common guy who turns his back on his doting parents for an arrogant wife . Thats NOt the Krishna I wud like to see . Whatever Amma may be , she loves her Baba like crazy and so does Sajjan Singh ........krishna was his Kaleja ka tukda . I guess I am traditional at heart . I have not been able to digest Pratigya's immense arrogance one bit but I am furious with Krishna for not taking cognizance of his parents love .
He shud have remembered that his parents bent umpteen times before the marraige in front of Saxena family for HIS SAKE but Pratigya is Unbending even for a trivial issue
If anyone needs Atma samaan its Krishna .He is Fast losing it by constantly giving into Pratigyas double standard whims . So creatives give a dose of ATMA SAMMAN to KRISHNA for a change .
PS : Pratigya and her sanskaari family go around slapping people when they feel justified . Pratigya slaped Krishna in the engagement .........he too cud have taken a stance that why u lifted ur hand . This , after slapping Angad . Who made her life hell . Her Mom slaps all 3 children at times . So Why this issue of this slap ? If Slapping a person is ok when one feels justified then why shud Krishna not have a right to slap when HE feels justified ? Why this Unfair law that it is only ok for the Saxenas to slap ?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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well no douth prat have no ATMA SAMMAN.she is useless educated,till start of this show,most of the time she was wrong in handling the suitations.she never listens her parent before put herself into marriage.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Today Pratigya gave a speech about Atma Sammaan . I wont ever compromise with my Atma Sammaan she said . U can bring me here but I wont say sorry she said . Ok .

Now where was this Atma sammaan when she agreed to this marraige against her will ? That time she kept aside her Atma sammaan and mariied , is it ? This means at times she does put her Atma Sammaan on hold .
So whats the problem in apologising to elders ? They were not demanding much .........she had indeed rubbed their faces in mud before going .For starters , SHE had said I am leaving the house .........SS had not told her to . In a typical Indian household , in rural hometown , if the bahu blurts bedroom secrets purposefully in front of all , shames the family ., makes the boy's family aware that she is not sleeping with their son and giving him any kind of marital happiness , is the boys family seriously supposed to love her and go to fetch her back or advise their son to divorce her and start afresh ?
For a small town Gal , Pratigya is doing far too much . If she had been married to that Nitin and same secrets were blurted in front of all wud Her saas tolerate her for even one minute in the house ?Wud Jagmohan come to fetch her ? Fetch her for what ?For not giving his son any happiness and such an endless possibility in the future ?
A non consummated marraige , a rigid attitude , innumerable insults to Krishna to the point of telling him Ur not worthy of me............Pratigya talks of atma sammaan when she herself does not even know the name of what sammaaan is as she doesnt respect her husband nor the wishes of others .She cares a damn for Komals life , her bros happiness , her familys reputation now , disrespects her husband as if he is garbage , .................She who does not know the meaning of how respect is given to others how is she demanding atma samman ?
Krishna constantly calls her Pratigya Ji . She calls him KRISHNA
She calls herself HUM and him TUM
Right from her choice in saris to getting her approval on the type of wedding invitation cards Krishna tried to know about her choices and please her . What did she do ?
Sajjan Singh may be a chauvinist and treat his wife badly but with his children he is very loving in his own rustic , uneducated way .His love is genuine . He is tender to Komal , he hasnt slapped her once although she is a girl .She is his flower , his Komaliya . Right from indulging her wishes in eating to planning to build a bigger house for her , Sajjan singh dotes on Komal .
Same with Krishna. What didnt he do for Krishna ? He went twice with shagun to the house of a diffrent caste gal only so that his son shud be happy .When Krishna cut his wrists he bandaged them and told Shakti U wudnt know , U gotta be a Dad for seeing your child in pain . The Saxenas were cold like ice and never even returned his greeting ...forget offering him refreshments. Sajjan Singh tolerated Krishna's innumerable backanswers . Anyday , Sajjan Singh the mcp loves Krishna thousand times more than Pratigya .
Why shud Krishna not realise this ? Why shud he place Pratigya above his father who loved him so much , who watched him fondly as he tied the turban around his head and made him go to ask for a Kayasth gal's hand although it deeply offended his traditional sensibilities ? Does Krishna even know how much his father , egoistic though he is , bent for him ? When he kept his Atma Samaan time and again aside for his son , why is Pratigya , an educated gal making such an issue about it to the point that her marraige also might break ?
Giving blatant arrogance the name of Atma Sammaan is not correct .If one is educated he shud show educaion in another way ...by being humble but still doing the right thing in actions .Constant Tu Tu Mai Mai with elders , telling them they shud bend by coming to fetch , refusing to apologize for ur own deeds is simply not done .
Krishna has no problems seeing his Father bend but is going to pamper Pratigya's non bending stance .Well the creatives are turning Krishna into a common guy who turns his back on his doting parents for an arrogant wife . Thats NOt the Krishna I wud like to see . Whatever Amma may be , she loves her Baba like crazy and so does Sajjan Singh ........krishna was his Kaleja ka tukda . I guess I am traditional at heart . I have not been able to digest Pratigya's immense arrogance one bit but I am furious with Krishna for not taking cognizance of his parents love .
He shud have remembered that his parents bent umpteen times before the marraige in front of Saxena family for HIS SAKE but Pratigya is Unbending even for a trivial issue
If anyone needs Atma samaan its Krishna .He is Fast losing it by constantly giving into Pratigyas double standard whims . So creatives give a dose of ATMA SAMMAN to KRISHNA for a change .



Loved the last para, that is exactly my thoughts, Not only Atma Samman but realization that he is barking at the wrong tree. Let her go she doesn't deserve him or his mahan family. Fully agreed.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I doubt Pratigya even understands the meaning of AATMA-SAMMAN. She claims to respect her sasural and yet she is too proud to admit she was out of line and spoke rudely at the havan. How many times has she apologized to her own Dadi for her insults and no reason at all? So what's with the attitude she dishes out to her sasural in the name of izzat?

She accused Krishna once "meri atma-samman ko kilona kyun bankar rakthe ho". Pot calling the kettle black. When has she made choices that we have seen that really showed any atma-samman. Her choices so far have been self-centered even though she claims to have done them to save her family's reputation. Which reality is she living in anyways?

She had plenty of attitude to dish out with a baashan about atma-samman. Let's see how this atma-samman fares when she gets to hear the truth about her actions that has held her family hostage since the day she arrived in Allahabad after completing her college studies. She is going to be guilt-ridden and want forgiveness from her family. Maybe then she will understand what it means to show some humility instead of this gamandi attitude that too after doing something that insults the elder in the family. Even her parents wanted her to reconsider her position at one point before things got out of hand.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

<font color="#330099">Today Pratigya gave a speech about Atma Sammaan . I wont ever compromise with my Atma Sammaan she said . U can bring me here but I wont say sorry she said . Ok .


</div>Now where was this Atma sammaan when she agreed to this marraige against her will ? That time she kept aside her Atma sammaan and mariied , is it ? This means at times she does put her Atma Sammaan on hold .

So whats the problem in apologising to elders ? They were not demanding much .........she had indeed rubbed their faces in mud before going .For starters , SHE had said I am leaving the house .........SS had not told her to . In a typical Indian household , in rural hometown , if the bahu blurts bedroom secrets purposefully in front of all , shames the family ., makes the boy's family aware that she is not sleeping with their son and giving him any kind of marital happiness , is the boys family seriously supposed to love her and go to fetch her back or advise their son to divorce her and start afresh ?


For a small town Gal , Pratigya is doing far too much . If she had been married to that Nitin and same secrets were blurted in front of all wud Her saas tolerate her for even one minute in the house ?Wud Jagmohan come to fetch her ? Fetch her for what ?For not giving his son any happiness and such an endless possibility in the future ?


A non consummated marraige , a rigid attitude , innumerable insults to Krishna to the point of telling him Ur not worthy of me............Pratigya talks of atma sammaan when she herself does not even know the name of what sammaaan is as she doesnt respect her husband nor the wishes of others .She cares a damn for Komals life , her bros happiness , her familys reputation now , disrespects her husband as if he is garbage , .................She who does not know the meaning of how respect is given to others how is she demanding atma samman ?


Krishna constantly calls her Pratigya Ji . She calls him KRISHNA


She calls herself HUM and him TUM


Right from her choice in saris to getting her approval on the type of wedding invitation cards Krishna tried to know about her choices and please her . What did she do ?


Sajjan Singh may be a chauvinist and treat his wife badly but with his children he is very loving in his own rustic , uneducated way .His love is genuine . He is tender to Komal , he hasnt slapped her once although she is a girl .She is his flower , his Komaliya . Right from indulging her wishes in eating to planning to build a bigger house for her , Sajjan singh dotes on Komal .



Same with Krishna. What didnt he do for Krishna ? He went twice with shagun to the house of a diffrent caste gal only so that his son shud be happy .When Krishna cut his wrists he bandaged them and told Shakti U wudnt know , U gotta be a Dad for seeing your child in pain . The Saxenas were cold like ice and never even returned his greeting ...forget offering him refreshments. Sajjan Singh tolerated Krishna's innumerable backanswers . Anyday , Sajjan Singh the mcp loves Krishna thousand times more than Pratigya .


Why shud Krishna not realise this ? Why shud he place Pratigya above his father who loved him so much , who watched him fondly as he tied the turban around his head and made him go to ask for a Kayasth gal's hand although it deeply offended his traditional sensibilities ? Does Krishna even know how much his father , egoistic though he is , bent for him ? When he kept his Atma Samaan time and again aside for his son , why is Pratigya , an educated gal making such an issue about it to the point that her marraige also might break ?


Giving blatant arrogance the name of Atma Sammaan is not correct .If one is educated he shud show educaion in another way ...by being humble but still doing the right thing in actions .Constant Tu Tu Mai Mai with elders , telling them they shud bend by coming to fetch , refusing to apologize for ur own deeds is simply not done .


Krishna has no problems seeing his Father bend but is going to pamper Pratigya's non bending stance .Well the creatives are turning Krishna into a common guy who turns his back on his doting parents for an arrogant wife . Thats NOt the Krishna I wud like to see . Whatever Amma may be , she loves her Baba like crazy and so does Sajjan Singh ........krishna was his Kaleja ka tukda . I guess I am traditional at heart . I have not been able to digest Pratigya's immense arrogance one bit but I am furious with Krishna for not taking cognizance of his parents love .


He shud have remembered that his parents bent umpteen times before the marraige in front of Saxena family for HIS SAKE but Pratigya is Unbending even for a trivial issue


If anyone needs Atma samaan its Krishna .He is Fast losing it by constantly giving into Pratigyas double standard whims . So creatives give a dose of ATMA SAMMAN to KRISHNA for a change .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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loved your post beta Ghanta atma saman😆😆
Pratigya has no attma saman
she lacks it
she is unpad, stubborn
and $%O23i201"$"$
bas baat khatam 😆
PS: from now i know the reaosn whyi hate prats🤣🤣
Edited by steffroc - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: steffroc

loved your post beta

Ghanta atma saman😆😆
Pratigya has no attma saman
she lacks it
she is unpad, stubborn
and $%O23i201"$"$
bas baat khatam 😆
PS: from now i know the reaosn whyi hate prats🤣🤣



Did you really need a reason for this, when you didn't really need one to say I LUB YOU to Baba?😛

Crazy ki re!😉 Sahi bath hai na?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Wow!! I understand u r not happy about Pratigya's atma samaan. I also understand that she should not have said anything about her personal relationship in front of everyone. However, what were her choices? To sit for the pooja w/o telling the truth?
It was for her family's peace of mind that she "CHOSE" to get married. I am not taking sides here, but there are times in our lives too when we stay quiet to mainatin peace and there are times when we must speak up - agreed she should have spoken up b4 things reached this stage - but she was listening to Krishna's wishes when she didn't. Also she already paid the price for blurting out the truth in front of everyone as Krishna had slapped her then.
I think that since things had reached such a stage in her life, the cause of the problem that happened was Krishna not Pratigya, so it was not right to demand an apology from her.
On the other hand, if like you wished she had apologised, what would that imply? Was it right for the Thakurs to treat her the way they did? Was it right for Krishna to slap his wife in front of everyone?
I hope I am not hurting your feelings - but this is just my point of view based on my own experiences in life!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI



Did you really need a reason for this, when you didn't really need one to say I LUB YOU to Baba?😛

i said it 😉😆😆 i know
but for prat i was trying to figure out why i hate her so much and finall yi know itROFLROFL

Crazy ki re!😉 Sahi bath hai na? arre jo pratigya ke saath ho gaya or usse roz deka ga the person will go crazy na 😉ROFLROFL

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Originally posted by: lastmin

Wow!! I understand u r not happy about Pratigya's atma samaan. I also understand that she should not have said anything about her personal relationship in front of everyone. However, what were her choices? To sit for the pooja w/o telling the truth?

It was for her family's peace of mind that she "CHOSE" to get married. I am not taking sides here, but there are times in our lives too when we stay quiet to mainatin peace and there are times when we must speak up - agreed she should have spoken up b4 things reached this stage - but she was listening to Krishna's wishes when she didn't. Also she already paid the price for blurting out the truth in front of everyone as Krishna had slapped her then.
I think that since things had reached such a stage in her life, the cause of the problem that happened was Krishna not Pratigya, so it was not right to demand an apology from her.
On the other hand, if like you wished she had apologised, what would that imply? Was it right for the Thakurs to treat her the way they did? Was it right for Krishna to slap his wife in front of everyone?
I hope I am not hurting your feelings - but this is just my point of view based on my own experiences in life!!



If you watched today's episode you will notice when Krishna and Prats show up SS specifically mocked her about showing up at HIS house after saying she couldn't stay in the house anymore. The apology is for her saying to the elders in the house she was leaving it not for the other stuff. What she did was wrong to blurt it out without thinking, so apologizing for it wouldn't reduce the little atma-samman she has left at this point, IMO.

If everyone in a family stood purely on principles and self-righteousness few happy families will survive. For the greater good of the family sometimes it's ok to say sorry to the elders (which in this case she did owe them an apology for publicly embarrasing her sasural in front of guests and parents by saying she was leaving their house which is a big thing for the likes of Tacurse).

We have seen SS not being unreasonable before. This was the same man who praised her cooking and other talents, blessed her when she saved Kesar's baby. Her pride is slowly destroying her life and those around her and she needs a rude awakening. Seems like it's already on it's way thanks to Angad who has turned the SUCK family's life into a living hell in the last couple of days. Let's see how her atma-samman saves her and her family all at that point. I sure am curious to see how it happens.
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