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Posted: 15 years ago
thank god i was born and raised in Canada, where u don't have to put up with backward thinking like my husband is my god and he can rape and beat me up when he wants. There is no greater sin in this world then raping or beating up a person, be it man or woman. Just because your married to someone,doesn't mean anything,u don't have to have sex until your ready, anything else is rape, plain and simple, A woman has a right to say no,after all, its her body and its a basic human right. Women r not just made to please their husbands. i cant believe people in this forum r actually justifying rape and abuse and they r women themselves. Its disgusting!! Put yourself in prats shoes, how how u feel if it happened to u,would u still think its right?Rape and attempt r one in the same. Rape is more about power then about sex, the person committing the rape has the power and can do anything they want,it has a lot to do with physical power,which is y most rapes r committed by men,they want the other person to feel helpless and thats hows pratigya was feeling.
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Posted: 15 years ago
I agree with you I'm extremely happy i live in the US where i don't have to deal with not only men but many women as well who are ready to blame the female for everything that goes wrong in a relationship. Some of the posts i have read are really shocking what i find hard to comprehend is that whatever pratigya does in order to protect herself from Krishna's family is somehow always wrong, while there is always an excuse prepared for whenever Krishna commits a crime. I don't get how anyone can support a man who physically and mentally abuses his wife, and who has tried to rape her repeatedly. I know the excuse for this is her indifference, even if she was rude to him if his love was true he would have enough sense not to hurt the one he claimed to love.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Look it is not the point that we r in US or UK or Canada and hence lucky to escape this
I lived In India too , I experienced life in rural areas too , saw feudal landlord households , cities , today I am in progressive USA...........
Neither it is about women r always blamed .
I constantly saw a man who was grossly misunderstood by a woman . He misunderstood her silence for acceptance and she succeeded in giving him wrong signals . There was a colossal misunderstanding especially due to the pink sari episode . He inferred her mute fear as fear of society , NOT HIM and decided to aggressively make her his bride . He had no idea of the horror and fear another stalker had unleashed due to his manipulation ......Angad .
Krishna suffered a lot in this marraige . In fact he suffered the most , and for what ?For loving her like crazy . He got insulted in a way no man shud ..........and he bore it all just so she shud grace him with some love at least . Pratigya did not do good with him . He is the real victim and I firmly stand by this . The emotional torture she put him through is so dangerous that any other man wud have committed suicide or raped or killed his wife . This horrible Pratigya that she did ........of destroying him thru HATE can never be applauded by me at least . He was so excited about the marraige and was bending backwards and forward to please her . His household may be chauvinistic but he really loved her and he had no intentions of treating her any less than a queen . It was always Pratigyaji wont do the housework , Pratigyaji needfs to be looked after , Go ask what Pratigyaji wants , I will change all the furniture for Pratigyaji .......She was unfortunately in no frame of mind to value that love and crushed it under her revengeful heel .If anyone needs a sabak it is this character , not him . I dont expect anyone to agree with my opinion ................I stand by it firmly .
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: angadkripa01

thank god i was born and raised in Canada, where u don't have to put up with backward thinking like my husband is my god and he can rape and beat me up when he wants. There is no greater sin in this world then raping or beating up a person, be it man or woman. Just because your married to someone,doesn't mean anything,u don't have to have sex until your ready, anything else is rape, plain and simple, A woman has a right to say no,after all, its her body and its a basic human right. Women r not just made to please their husbands. i cant believe people in this forum r actually justifying rape and abuse and they r women themselves. Its disgusting!! Put yourself in prats shoes, how how u feel if it happened to u,would u still think its right?Rape and attempt r one in the same. Rape is more about power then about sex, the person committing the rape has the power and can do anything they want,it has a lot to do with physical power,which is y most rapes r committed by men,they want the other person to feel helpless and thats hows pratigya was feeling.



yes the discussions here have reached a stage where we are debating the meaning of sex. ok i do admit in an arranged marriage couple do consummate the marriage before they are in love. yes BUT woman say yes to it on first night or whenever and it happens by both their consent. that is the difference here krishna does not have pratigya consent. i am not sure what the exact wording of vows are that you take around the holy fire but i don't think it gives the man authority over a woman's body. i believe in this as strongly as anything in my life, a man must not touch a woman if she doesn't want to EVEN IF HE IS HER HUSBAND. it is any woman basic right.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Look it is not the point that we r in US or UK or Canada and hence lucky to escape this

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I lived In India too , I experienced life in rural areas too , saw feudal landlord households , cities , today I am in progressive USA...........


Neither it is about women r always blamed .


I constantly saw a man who was grossly misunderstood by a woman . He misunderstood her silence for acceptance and she succeeded in giving him wrong signals . There was a colossal misunderstanding especially due to the pink sari episode . He inferred her mute fear as fear of society , NOT HIM and decided to aggressively make her his bride . He had no idea of the horror and fear another stalker had unleashed due to his manipulation ......Angad .


<div>Krishna suffered a lot in this marraige . In fact he suffered the most , and for what ?For loving her like crazy . He got insulted in a way no man shud ..........and he bore it all just so she shud grace him with some love at least . Pratigya did not do good with him . He is the real victim and I firmly stand by this . The emotional torture she put him through is so dangerous that any other man wud have committed suicide or raped or killed his wife . This horrible Pratigya that she did ........of destroying him thru HATE can never be applauded by me at least . He was so excited about the marraige and was bending backwards and forward to please her . His household may be chauvinistic but he really loved her and he had no intentions of treating her any less than a queen . It was always Pratigyaji wont do the housework , Pratigyaji needfs to be looked after , Go ask what Pratigyaji wants , I will change all the furniture for Pratigyaji .......She was unfortunately in no frame of mind to value that love and crushed it under her revengeful heel .If anyone needs a sabak it is this character , not him . I dont expect anyone to agree with my opinion ................I stand by it firmly .



yes, he was misunderstood..he was made to believe by angad that pratigya loves him..pratigya also didn't realize that she's giving him wrong signals...both got married..but what after that? when pratigya told krishna on the first night that she hates him, did krishna's behavior chang? he was just the same krishna who can't hear "NO" and that too frm a woman ! what does this guy know about love? can't he see tht his love is one sided? can any xyz attempt to rape the girl he claims to love? he forced her to lie and is again forcing her to apologize..can't he tell his family that he was the one who asked her to lie abt the pregnancy?? i can't believe that abuse and rape is also be justified in unfavorable circumstances! if a woman refuses to fall to whims and fancies of a man, he has the right to rape her ? is she the one whoz instigating him to abuse her ? in that case, he deserves that much of suffering which pratigya is giving him, that amounts to just 1% of what he did to her !
Edited by _charu_ - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: loveanime



yes the discussions here have reached a stage where we are debating the meaning of sex. ok i do admit in an arranged marriage couple do consummate the marriage before they are in love. yes BUT woman say yes to it on first night or whenever and it happens by both their consent. that is the difference here krishna does not have pratigya consent. i am not sure what the exact wording of vows are that you take around the holy fire but i don't think it gives the man authority over a woman's body. i believe in this as strongly as anything in my life, a man must not touch a woman if she doesn't want to EVEN IF HE IS HER HUSBAND. it is any woman basic right.



exactly.. a husband has full authority over his wife's body , if that is what marriage means, then the laws of marital rape r meaningless ! we're forgetting that a husband also takes vows in front of holy fire....what about that? we're talking about basic human rights here which r denied to womenfolk in pratigya ..that's what komal said yest..."yeh ghar hai? jahan shakti, SS aur krishna jaise aadmi hai"
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Posted: 15 years ago
This thread is full of indirect bash and use of inappropriate language. I'd recommend all forum members to read the rules once again and keep them in mind Pratigya ~ RULES and REGULATIONS.

This thread has lead to lot of chaos and has become a battlefield, this thread will be reviewed by the Dev tean and members who have broken any kinds of rules will be warned.

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