Episode 456 Discussion: 20th December 2013

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Episode 456 Discussion: 20th December 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

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  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
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  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3855446/20th-december-short-lu

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TRP News Week 50: December 8th-14th, 2013
TRP Analysis

Originally posted by: river123

TRP Charts for Week 50:

Lets play a morbid guessing game "How low can MBEIEJ TRPs go?" Every week, I think, wow, we should have hit rock bottom by now. But nooo, each week turns out to be lower than the previous.


Having said that, BTW I feel like we HAVE indeed hit rock bottom 😃, next week may be better (And of course I'm optimistic. This is the week I've started watching again properly.)


TRPs went to 1.8 vs. 1.9, down 5%. MB's position is at #20. I'm not going to do the "funny math" of counting shows that share the same TRP as the same position #. What I have found from looking at TVTs is that there is always a small difference between shows, which gets rounded off when doing TRPs. So no point in making the situation seem better than it actually is 😊.


MB had the dubious 🤢 honor of being one of the 3 shows among the top 20 shows that decreased TRPs. All other shows had an increase.


Bottom-line, whatever they are doing with the show isn't working - a previously razor sharp intelligent RK now weakened and illogical; many are probably sick of the halo around Madhu; story and its narration doesn't sense (except to the CVs 🤣) etc etc.


Hopefully next week numbers may be a little better - there seems to be indications that they are moving this track along quickly. I wonder what the production house feels though about their ineptness and inability to come up with a winning formula. Aren't they worried about their previous success for a few months being perceived as just being a lucky fluke?


Weekly TRP historical trends are below (note: data converted from TVTs to TRPs so that we could have consistent comparison points. This is a rough inexact conversion and may not match to the second decimal place with other estimates due to minor differences in conversion methodology)

Note: Data converted from TVTs to TRPs from week 31 - week 48 onwards. Does not take into consideration impact of adding new markets at various points. Size of these markets, viewing patterns, demographics, level of digitization etc. of those markets would impact TRPs. Also, hard to judge IPL's exact impact.
The two charts below show: 1) Top 20 shows TRPs and 2) TRP increase/drop for those shows, compared to the week prior. The blue bars on the second chart are the ones that did better, the red are the ones that did worse, and the no bars are the ones that were the same.


Note:
  • TRPs for Taarak have not been available for the last two weeks. They will be updated as soon as they become available. As of now, numbers from two weeks ago were plugged in as a placeholder.
  • Like last week, this week also there was no TVT data was received. If TVT data does become available, the rankings will be adjusted to reflect that.
  • This is a rough analysis. Please feel free to point out any holes.

Data Source"


Daily Analysis:


Originally posted by: leelaa9

MEIEJ - Week 50:-
9th (Monday) to 13th (Friday) December 2013:-

TRP = 1.8 (previous week 1.9).

So a 0.1 fall in TRP.

The TRP breakdown is credit to Aakash, and synopses credit to Nishi and Rajji :)

Week 50 Madhubala Breakdown

1.75 - Monday, 9th Dec - RM on lake side; RK tells Madhu about his issues and Madhu's stardom effects. Madhu decides to get RK back, makes paratha for him, RK chides and leaves. Ria's entry. RK watches Ria on road doing stunt.
1.81 - Tuesday, 10th Dec - Ria takes lift in RK's car. Both get drunk in bar and chat. Ria drops RK home, RK keeps praising about Madhu. They create scene in RK mansion. Madhu and family shocked.
1.89 - Wednesday, 11th Dec - Ria takes RK to his bedroom, and tells Madhu he loves Madhu. RK wakes up with a hangover, apologizes to Madhu, asks for space and goes for ad film stunt shoot, meets accident and Ria saves him on bike. Bittoo informs Madhu. Pabho taunts Madhu and Madhu replies back.
1.95 - Thursday, 12th Dec - RK confronts Ria. She gives attitude. He finds out she is the same girl he had hit in road accident. Pabho blames Madhu. Madhu complains to Radha why all blame her, and refuses to apologize to Pabho. RK sleeps besides Madhu, wakes up and reads diary, goes in the middle of the night to return diary and finds Ria drunk, drops her at his farmhouse. He calls Madhu and informs her, but lies to her about the 'friend'.
1.79 - Friday, 13th Dec - RK wakes up, feels guilty for lying to Madhu, asks Madhu out for lunch. Pabho says Madhu is manhoos. Bittuji wishes Madhu. It's Madhu's b'day, RK forgets. Ria wakes up in farmhouse and calls RK, tells him he is in love with her, he cuts the call. RM in restaurant, fans intrude and praise Madhu, ask RK to click pic and RK is hurt. Ria enters and praises RK for being caring, Madhu is hurt.

Average 1.83~~1.8

Edited by -MAS- - 11 years ago
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Madhu is maha bored so what she does , goes and tell riya, why are you wasting time, please give us some trouble . 😆
Goes to meet ria behind her husband
Gives her a detail explanation how media is ever ready print stories about RK
and also provides some good proof if ever is required - marital bangle
Gives her detail bashaan
Challenges her
And gets challenged
Comes home as if nothing happened


Wah re Madhu fool proof plan never fails to invite trouble on RK. I should mention though her intention is always good but backfires why because she does not think RK can handle any problem, he needs baby sitting.

Then she will rescue and become mahaan and then have RK apologize and restart the cycle, no one will remember who invited or aggrivated the trouble brewing in rks life.

Rk boy - what did I say, follow biwi's philosophy, always do things behind back and say sorry if asked aur bolo ' mein Sab theek kardoonga ' you will never have to apologize then 😆
Edited by armummy - 11 years ago
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@arm tht was a wonderful review..i was laughing all the way..
therez nothing much to review...but i'll do this formality in a while..
eta
the highlights..
no rk means tamatar ande wala epi aise hi ho gaya
rk tumhari personally ya professionally koi madad nahi kar sakta ..in short, woh kis laayak hai, uski toh problems main solve kar rahi hoon, now u can imagine uske kitne bure din aa gaye hain.
all tht is okay but who gave her the licence to give her khandani kangan to a psycho girl in need?if Ria asked for some more money, madhu wud have,given the mangalsutra and engagement ring too? How stupid was tht..
I liked her aag and hawa wala dialogue..saath saath yeh bhi keh diya ke tum rk ko jaanti nahi ho, woh kisi laayak nahi hai, sirf main uske saath reh sakti hoon..
why challenge or accept the challenge? Pehle bhai ko challenge , result, rk in jail,, phir pabo ko challenge, result, rk on death bed, an Ria ko challenge, result, rk par rape case..
why did she want to do social service for Ria in the first place?
pabo is planning to kill madhu..gimme a break plz, chandelier ke neeche aur 4 log nahi marenge kya? And nobody will see pabo cutting the rope? Wow! Rk ke ghar ke cameras kahan hai?
did rk have any option other than bringing Ria home? He is screwed up badly..pehle toh he will feel guilty of using her and pushing her to commit suicide..now if he,doesnt curb her, he will be blamed of her suicide as well..everyone will vouch for his misadventures with Ria..
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Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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My review is only based on WU, no RK, so me no watching the episode..

Whose genious idea was it to go and see that crazy bitch and invite trouble?.. Our one and only Mahaan devi Madhubala.. someone please shoot me now!!!!... before I had a feeling Madhu is stupid and brainless, now I am 1000% yakeen ki she is stupid and brainless... As soon as she saw the lipstick mark, instead of trusting her own intuition and love, she decided to pay psycho bitch a visit.. BIG MISTAKE!!!!! that's what she wanted and you my stupid madhubala falls right into her trap👏👏... and trying to bribe her with that bangle that is another brilliant( read dumb with a capital D) plan of hers... see the end result, she is back in RK mansion aur woh bhee RK ki bahoon mai...Ria is one smart cookie... Madhus rash decision based on her famous chant" mein sab theek kar doonghi" give easy entry to Ria in Rishbala life... This time it is all Madhus fault...

PS. that bangle will come and bite RK in the ass...

PPS. how long do we have to suffer this torture... just 10 more days... YIPPEEE!!!!!!!...

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Ria anyways would have interfered in their lifes, we saw it yesterday already, she was quite determined to get Rk, Madhu just accelerated the process, Madhu did the most stupid mistake by giving Ria that bangle, aur woh bhi a family bangle, couldn't she think of something else, that bangle can be used by Ria as she likes, she might tell Rk that your wife came to see me and humiliated me a lot and made me feel like if I'm nothing, and in my depression I cut my wrist and she can tell him your wife proposed me money to get me away from you and you know you are my only friend bla bla bla...

Or maybe she can use that bangle as a crime proof maybe in the rape case or something else, Madhu was defending her marriage but she should have known how to handle the situation in a subtle way, If she can win the challenge effectively without tall claims I would be pleased, but she lost the first round already!!!

But yes I agree with her on the fact that Rk-Madhu's love is strong and that she is right in trusting Rk, because we know Rk will never cheat on her and he will always love her

I also think what she said about Ria's love not being love actually is true, it's Ria's obsession I think, we can't fall in love in three days!!! or can we!!! first Ria might have been a psycho even before she meets Rk and I knew that Rk giving her importance and defending her as his best friend will give her ideas and she will want to get him for her, If she wasn't a psycho and their friendship got even more stonger with her getting more ideas of his care for her, I would have said it's love that she feels towards Rk but here it's not love yet I think it's more an obsession
Edited by arshisfan - 11 years ago
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only one thing to say who makes Riya to give the Challenge its Madhu.,who will face the consequence of it RK.Aab Madhu sab theek kar degi aur RK sorry kahega since all the blame will be put on him at the end.
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Thats my review today. 😆
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Originally posted by: river123


Thats my review today. 😆



It hurts😆
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Originally posted by: arshisfan

Ria anyways would have interfered in their lifes, we saw it yesterday already, she was quite determined to get Rk, Madhu just accelerated the process, Madhu did the biggest stupid mistake by giving Ria that bangle, aur woh bhi a family bangle, couldn't she think of something else, that bangle can be used by Ria as she likes, she might tell Rk that your wife came to see me and humiliated me a lot and made me feel like if I'm nothing, and in my depression I cut my wrist and she can tell him your wife proposed me money to get me away from you and you know you are my only friend bla bla bla...

Or maybe she can use that bangle as a crime proof maybe in the rape case or something else, Madhu was defending her marriage but she should have known how to handle the situation in a subtle way, If she can win the challenge effectively without tall claims I would be pleased, but she lost the first round already!!!

But yes I agree with her on the fact that Rk-Madhu's love is strong and that she is right in trusting Rk, because we know Rk will never cheat on her and he will always love her

I also think what she said about Ria's love not being love actually is true, it's Ria's obsession I think, we can't fall in love in three days!!! or can we!!! first Ria might have been a psycho even before she meets Rk and I knew that Rk giving her importance and defending her as his best friend will give her ideas and she will want to get him for her, If she wasn't a psycho and their friendship got even more stonger with her getting more ideas of his care for her, I would have said it's love that she feels towards Rk but here it's not love yet I think it's more an obsession


I agree she already lost the first round and the result of it she will see tomorrow, but the battle has just begun... All Madhu needs to do is be smart and calculative like Ria.. and stop being mahaan devi, become a bigger bitch than her. Madhu's primary focus should be RIA and Only RIA.. RK is not going anywhere, deal with him later... Right now, all her concentration should be towards RIA and her Plan... If she cannot stop being Mahaan aaatma, then her marriage is doomed...

Still think she should have let RK deal with her in his own way...

There is also an easy way out... She should pack up and leave...

Are Cvs again playing with RK film career? very bad bad move if they are...

Edited by SVK1234 - 11 years ago

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