GenX, Bollywood and Marriage

Hey Everyone 😃

This week we had Soha Ali Khan and Saif Ali Khan sip Koffee with Karan ...😉 ... As many of us noticed most of the show was dedicated to talking about Saif and his current and previous martial status and related issues. During the show Karan asked a question to Soha, saying that she is considered an icon from the new Generation, GenX, and he asked her what her opinion on the institution of marriage was...

She replied that she still believed in marriage and saw herself married and well setteled sometime. But she also said something very interesting... (dont' remember exactly) but she said that now a days we have so many choices, freedom that maybe Marriage is not as scared as it was once. She related Marriage to consumerism...

Karan himself said he didn't belive in marriage and it does not interest him.

Saif who a couple years ago went through a divorce and recently split with his gf Rosa, maintainted that he still believed in marriage.

Many couples in Bollywood have been together for a while yet, no plans of marriage yet, as they are concentrating on careers... it seems marriage has taken a back seat, is it b/c of they are acting business or marriage is not as essential as society is more accepting of relationships outside of marriage? Eg: Shahid & Kareena, John & Bips, Lara & Kelly (I think this is his name 🤔) ...

let's look at some other trends in Bollywood...

Some couples who have been together (for longer than 5 years)...

Dilip Kumar and Saira Banu

Ambitabh Bachan and Jaya Bachan

Rishi Kapoor and Neetu Singh

SRK and Gauri

Akshay Kumar and Twinkle Khanna ?

Some couple who have had issues or divorces...

Karishma and hubby

Hema Mallini and Dharmendra (second marriage)

Sri Devi and Boney Kapoor (second marriage)

Amir Khan and wife

Saif and Amrita

Sanjay Dutt and wife

Now with Divorce rates on the rise... we have to ask ourselves, considering we are from the next generation...

What is our opinion on marriage?

With recent divorces of Saif and Amir after they reached new heights of success (with Lagaan and Dil chahta hai)...do you think success (being succesful) plays or played a role in the divorce?

Do you think Media and Bollywood has an influence on people thinking and idea of marriage.... like now more experimental movies are coming out where old customs might be challenged...do they effect our thinking... moives like KANK, murder, Honeymoon travels, Nishbadh...

Lastly is marriage still considered as scared as it was in older days ... or is now just a convinience of shared incomes and responsiblities?

Do you think Bollywood couples will ever become like Hollywood couples where some marriages don't even last as long as the celebration (party) itself...?

You forgot to add a few more names to "the couples who have been together for more than 5 years:

Sharmila Tagore-Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi
Madhuri Dixit-Shriram Nene
Sunil Dutt-Nargis (both were togther till Nargis's death and Sunil Dutt never remarried)
Sunil Shetty-Mana (Mana is a muslim)
Hrithik Roshan-Sussanne
Kajol-Ajay Devgan
Sunny Deol-Pooja
Bobby Deol-Tanya
Juhi Chawla-Jai Mehta
Sohail Khan-Seema
Arbaaz-Malaika
Alvira-Atul Agnihotri
Sanjay Khan-Zarine
Rakesh Roshan-Pinky aka Pramila (daughter of J Om Prakash, noted filmmaker)
Jitendra-Shobha Kapoor (related to the Sippys of Sholay fame)
Also Dilip Kumar, Saira Banu DO NOT fit into this category because Dilip Kumar was married for a brief while to a woman named Asma in 1983. There was a huge scandal because Dilip had married her for a child as Saira could never conceive. Ultimately to save his public image, Dilip Kumar divorced Asma and went back to Saira.

Originally posted by: koihai

You forgot to add a few more names to "the couples who have been together for more than 5 years:

Sharmila Tagore-Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi
Madhuri Dixit-Shriram Nene
Sunil Dutt-Nargis (both were togther till Nargis's death and Sunil Dutt never remarried)
Sunil Shetty-Mana (Mana is a muslim)
Hrithik Roshan-Sussanne
Kajol-Ajay Devgan
Sunny Deol-Pooja
Bobby Deol-Tanya
Juhi Chawla-Jai Mehta
Sohail Khan-Seema
Arbaaz-Malaika
Alvira-Atul Agnihotri
Sanjay Khan-Zarine
Rakesh Roshan-Pinky aka Pramila (daughter of J Om Prakash, noted filmmaker)
Jitendra-Shobha Kapoor (related to the Sippys of Sholay fame)
Also Dilip Kumar, Saira Banu DO NOT fit into this category because Dilip Kumar was married for a brief while to a woman named Asma in 1983. There was a huge scandal because Dilip had married her for a child as Saira could never conceive. Ultimately to save his public image, Dilip Kumar divorced Asma and went back to Saira.

Thank you 😃 ... that is quiet a list...😆 ... but I think Sunny deol had an affair with Dimple Kapadia... 🤔

yeah well Amitabh had an affair with Rekha, Sanjay Khan had an affair with Zeenat Aman (wife Zarine had even slapped her in public because of this). Going by that criteria, these two couples should also not feature in that list. More couples in the problems list would be :

Raveena Tandon-Anil Thadani (Anil was married to Natasha Sippy, daughter of distributor Romu Sippy)

Javed Akhtar-Shabana Azmi (Javed was married to Honey Irani, noted scriptwriter)

Salim Khan-Helen (Salim was married to Salma Khan, mother of Salman, Arbaaz, Sohail and Alvira)

Rajesh Khanna-Dimple Kapadia

Randhir Kapoor-Babita

JP Dutta-Bindiya Goswami (Bindiya was married to Vinod Mehra earlier)

Vinod Mehra-Kiran

Vinod Khanna-Kavita (Vinod was married to Gitanjali, who is Akshaye and Rahul Khanna's mom)

Raj Kapoor-Krishna (Raj had an affair with Nargis before she was married to Sunil Dutt, but he was already married to Krishna)

Roop Kumar Rathod-Sonali (Sonali was married to Anoop Jalota, renowned Bhajan singer)

Udit Narayan-Deepa (Udit was married to Ranjana Jha)

Kavita Krishnamurthi-L Subrahmaniam (Subrahmaniam was already a divorcee)

Sunidhi Chauhan-Bobby Khan (divorced)

Shammi Kapoor-Neela Devi (Shammi was married to Geeta Bali)

Mithun Chakraborty-Yogita Bali (Yogita's second marriage)

Kishore Kumar-Leena Chandavarkar( Kishore's fourth marriage, he was married to Ruma Devi, Madhubala and Yogita Bali earlier)

Vyjayanthi Mala and Dr Bali (Bali's second marriage)

Mumtaz-Mayur Madhwani (Mayur had an affair with someone else)

Pankaj Kapur-Supriya Pathak (Pankaj was with actress Nilima Azeem, and even Supriya has been married earlier)

Naseeruddin Shah-Ratna Pathak (Naseer was married earlier, has a daughter named Heeba from that marriage)

Ayub Khan-Niharika (second marriage for both)

Aditya Chopra-Payal

Shefali Chaya-Vipul Shah (Shefali was married to TV actor Harsh Chaya earlier)

Renuka Shahane-Ashutosh Rana (Renuka's second marriage)

Archana Puran Singh-Parmeet Sethi (Archana's second marriage)

Some couples that should feature in the successful list though are:

Paresh Rawal-Swaroop Sampat ,

Kumar Gaurav and Namrata Dutt (Sanjay and Priya Dutt's sister).

Sanjay Kapoor-Maheep Sandhu

Anil Kapoor-Sunita

Govinda-Sunita

Arshad Warsi-Maria Goretti

Mandira Bedi-Raj Kaushal

Chunky Pandey-Bhavna

Farhan Akhtar-Adhuna Bhabhani

Dev Anand-Kalpana Karthik

Tina Munim-Anil Ambani

Yash Chopra-Pamela

Yash Johar-Hiroo (although Yash Johar is no more)

Kay Kay Menon-Nivedita Bhattacharya (Kay Kay was in Honeymoon travels Pvt Ltd and also Sarkar and Nivedita is a TV actor who plays Jiji in Saat Phere)

I don't think Hema Malini and Dharmendra are legally married. He hasn't officially divorced his first wife yet, or has he? 😕

Nice topic. Difficult topic!

I think Bollywood couples are already "like "Hollywood couples, to some extent. Its nothing new to just Gen X. And celebs are "special" people, different lifestyle, more money, more fame. Just cos their marriages do not work does not mean its the same for the general public. BTW, what is the divorce rate in India?

Success may play a role. Big ego like 'I'm a star so I can do whatever I want' or something like that. But more than that, maybe its the time (or lack of time) spent with the spouse. Bollywood actors/actresses are filming worldwide, have long schedules, good amount of stress. Everyone does but seems like their career is more demanding especially since their personal lives aren't very personal. Some marry for convenience and then it doesn't work out. I think couples are less likely to stay married for the sake of it especially if both husband and wife are from the industry. Don't stats show that arranged marriages are more successful than love marriages? Aren't most Bollywood marriages love marriages? Maybe thats why they do not work out. When two people marry, on their own consent, they can agree to separate on their own consent. The same may not apply to arranged marriages since the people "may" have married for reasons besides love. Its was not just their decision and other people and factors were invovled. I think it comes down to personal choice and why the two people married in the first place.

In the lists, a lot of the couples with "problems" involved a third-party:- there was an extra martial affair involved. In some cases, the marriage continues. In other, it ends in divorce.

Were marriages considered more sacred cos the divorce rate was less years ago? I don't know. 😕 Maybe separation and divorce were not options.

[quote]Do you think Media and Bollywood has an influence on people thinking and idea of marriage.... like now more experimental movies are coming out where old customs might be challenged...do they effect our thinking... moives like KANK, murder, Honeymoon travels, Nishbadh...[/quote]

KANK, Murder and Nishbad weren't generally appreciated by the masses. Do they affect our thinking? I don't, honestly. More than movies, I think its the world you live in, the people you talk with etc. If the film is a comedy, it may not be taken seriously, even if it deals with a serious theme like cheating and divorce. If we go by public opinion on the mentioned films, it seems like people still have much respect for old customs and do not appreciate such cinema which may go against the customs and traditions:- whether its a 60 yr old romancing a 18 yr old, two people cheating on their supportive spouses, or a film on gay or lesbian relationships.

Originally posted by: sonyaee

I don't think Hema Malini and Dharmendra are legally married. He hasn't officially divorced his first wife yet, or has he? 😕

Nice topic. Difficult topic!

I think Bollywood couples are already "like "Hollywood couples, to some extent. Its nothing new to just Gen X. And celebs are "special" people, different lifestyle, more money, more fame. Just cos their marriages do not work does not mean its the same for the general public. BTW, what is the divorce rate in India?

Success may play a role. Big ego like 'I'm a star so I can do whatever I want' or something like that. But more than that, maybe its the time (or lack of time) spent with the spouse. Bollywood actors/actresses are filming worldwide, have long schedules, good amount of stress. Everyone does but seems like their career is more demanding especially since their personal lives aren't very personal. Some marry for convenience and then it doesn't work out. I think couples are less likely to stay married for the sake of it especially if both husband and wife are from the industry. Don't stats show that arranged marriages are more successful than love marriages? Aren't most Bollywood marriages love marriages? Maybe thats why they do not work out. When two people marry, on their own consent, they can agree to separate on their own consent. The same may not apply to arranged marriages since the people "may" have married for reasons besides love. Its was not just their decision and other people and factors were invovled. I think it comes down to personal choice and why the two people married in the first place.

In the lists, a lot of the couples with "problems" involved a third-party:- there was an extra martial affair involved. In some cases, the marriage continues. In other, it ends in divorce.

wow...that is really something valid and thought provoking that you have come up with... you are right when people have love marriages and love is a MAJOR part of that marriage...so later if something happens and they feel like the love is just not there anymore..they may feel the urge to go separate ways...but in arranged marriages others things play biggers roles...such as companionship (someone to share you life with)... family who find the person for you... plus I think you might come into an arranged marriage with less expectations...like you might not expect the person to do romantic things for etc....so if they don't there is less disappointment but if they do...it is great....whereas in a love marriage you might expect it ...if they don't do romantic things you may ges disappointed and frustrated...

and like you said in bollywood...most marriages are love...and they might find that love during a movie when they are shooting together...but if when the movie is done they might not be able to spend time together...etc...hence breakups???

Great points you brought out 👏

PS: I think Dharmendra converted to islam in order to make it legal...but I am not hundred percent sure...🤔...but i think I read that in a magazine somewhere...🤔

Originally posted by: sonyaee

[quote]Do you think Media and Bollywood has an influence on people thinking and idea of marriage.... like now more experimental movies are coming out where old customs might be challenged...do they effect our thinking... moives like KANK, murder, Honeymoon travels, Nishbadh...[/quote]

KANK, Murder and Nishbad weren't generally appreciated by the masses. Do they affect our thinking? I don't, honestly. More than movies, I think its the world you live in, the people you talk with etc. If the film is a comedy, it may not be taken seriously, even if it deals with a serious theme like cheating and divorce. If we go by public opinion on the mentioned films, it seems like people still have much respect for old customs and do not appreciate such cinema which may go against the customs and traditions:- whether its a 60 yr old romancing a 18 yr old, two people cheating on their supportive spouses, or a film on gay or lesbian relationships.

I agree they are not popular with the masses...however, even if hundred people may not like it...that one person might...who might feel the movie resonates with them... like a few years ago no one would have ever thought a hindi movie would even mention anything about Gay people...whereas look now... in movies like honeymoon travels...rules pyar ke side effects, kal ho na ho... so now the question rises...

Are such things now featured in our movies b/c society is becoming more tolerant of it.... or it is it the other way around...where movies show it and we become more tolerant due to exposure to new concepts....?

Originally posted by: koihai

yeah well Amitabh had an affair with Rekha, Sanjay Khan had an affair with Zeenat Aman (wife Zarine had even slapped her in public because of this). Going by that criteria, these two couples should also not feature in that list. More couples in the problems list would be :

Raveena Tandon-Anil Thadani (Anil was married to Natasha Sippy, daughter of distributor Romu Sippy)

Javed Akhtar-Shabana Azmi (Javed was married to Honey Irani, noted scriptwriter)

Salim Khan-Helen (Salim was married to Salma Khan, mother of Salman, Arbaaz, Sohail and Alvira)

Rajesh Khanna-Dimple Kapadia

Randhir Kapoor-Babita

JP Dutta-Bindiya Goswami (Bindiya was married to Vinod Mehra earlier)

Vinod Mehra-Kiran

Vinod Khanna-Kavita (Vinod was married to Gitanjali, who is Akshaye and Rahul Khanna's mom)

Raj Kapoor-Krishna (Raj had an affair with Nargis before she was married to Sunil Dutt, but he was already married to Krishna)

Roop Kumar Rathod-Sonali (Sonali was married to Anoop Jalota, renowned Bhajan singer)

Udit Narayan-Deepa (Udit was married to Ranjana Jha)

Kavita Krishnamurthi-L Subrahmaniam (Subrahmaniam was already a divorcee)

Sunidhi Chauhan-Bobby Khan (divorced)

Shammi Kapoor-Neela Devi (Shammi was married to Geeta Bali)

Mithun Chakraborty-Yogita Bali (Yogita's second marriage)

Kishore Kumar-Leena Chandavarkar( Kishore's fourth marriage, he was married to Ruma Devi, Madhubala and Yogita Bali earlier)

Vyjayanthi Mala and Dr Bali (Bali's second marriage)

Mumtaz-Mayur Madhwani (Mayur had an affair with someone else)

Pankaj Kapur-Supriya Pathak (Pankaj was with actress Nilima Azeem, and even Supriya has been married earlier)

Naseeruddin Shah-Ratna Pathak (Naseer was married earlier, has a daughter named Heeba from that marriage)

Ayub Khan-Niharika (second marriage for both)

Aditya Chopra-Payal

Shefali Chaya-Vipul Shah (Shefali was married to TV actor Harsh Chaya earlier)

Renuka Shahane-Ashutosh Rana (Renuka's second marriage)

Archana Puran Singh-Parmeet Sethi (Archana's second marriage)

Some couples that should feature in the successful list though are:

Paresh Rawal-Swaroop Sampat ,

Kumar Gaurav and Namrata Dutt (Sanjay and Priya Dutt's sister).

Sanjay Kapoor-Maheep Sandhu

Anil Kapoor-Sunita

Govinda-Sunita

Arshad Warsi-Maria Goretti

Mandira Bedi-Raj Kaushal

Chunky Pandey-Bhavna

Farhan Akhtar-Adhuna Bhabhani

Dev Anand-Kalpana Karthik

Tina Munim-Anil Ambani

Yash Chopra-Pamela

Yash Johar-Hiroo (although Yash Johar is no more)

Kay Kay Menon-Nivedita Bhattacharya (Kay Kay was in Honeymoon travels Pvt Ltd and also Sarkar and Nivedita is a TV actor who plays Jiji in Saat Phere)

Wow...thank you for such an extensive list....that is really nice of you...👏... BTW i think at some point Vinod Mehra was also married to Rekha... who was also at another point married to some family friend of hers (but he died)