Weekend Musings: A Matter of Principles

Given Saachi's predicament with this whole Prachi wedding hting, I'm reminded of a couplet by Javed Akhtar:

Lovely sher bubble...very apt for the situation Saachi is in.

i agree she shouldn't agree tp this marriage .. she should have scolded prachi but she is not doing it ... but also i can understand why she backed up .. she has her own principles but she can't force them on her sis .. the way prachi reminded her that she is not the parent .. so she backed off & i m happy that she shld not interfere in her life as prachi herself is a mess .. so better to back off .. but i m against the giving money things at the same time .. she doesn't need to sacrifice here .. she can clearly say plz go & arrange money on ur own .. but i knw hardly anyone can say that .. so maybe it seems unrealistic but this is the reality .. whenever we want things from our parents when we want them with all our heart , even it is wrong .. at first they say no but then they agree just for our happiness,even it si against their principle & we r selfish enough to get it with a wide smile & this is what is happening here :) & i firmly believe it is the child who should think of her parent as the parent is ready to change the life long morals but this never takes place & so sacrifices go unfruitful!

Originally posted by: ak75

Lovely sher bubble...very apt for the situation Saachi is in.

About Saachi ---I love her character and all the personal sacrifice she has done for the sake of family and business. But, she is doing a huge blunder by agreeing to this proposal. She should jus put her foot down and say NO. Prachi will create a scene and hurt her a lot but that does not mean all her whims and fancies should be fulfilled. Saachi will not only save Prachi from a doomed future but also save herself from a lot of tension. That one decision will benefit all of them. She is compromising too much which I didnt expect from a strong character like Saachi. She is terribly wrong this time.

Thanks, glad you liked the sher. 😳

Yes, the decision affects everyone, doesn't it? If PRachi loves Sunil, no one is stopping her from marrying him - run away, go to a temple, court marriage... anything! But by giving in to these demands for a grand wedding, Saachi is letting the whole family in for a lot of tension. Advait's education is at stake, the family business is in jeopardy, and the grandmothers are being worried unnecessarily at their age.

Originally posted by: ...Jes...

i agree she shouldn't agree tp this marriage .. she should have scolded prachi but she is not doing it ... but also i can understand why she backed up .. she has her own principles but she can't force them on her sis .. the way prachi reminded her that she is not the parent .. so she backed off & i m happy that she shld not interfere in her life as prachi herself is a mess .. so better to back off .. but i m against the giving money things at the same time .. she doesn't need to sacrifice here .. she can clearly say plz go & arrange money on ur own .. but i knw hardly anyone can say that .. so maybe it seems unrealistic but this is the reality .. whenever we want things from our parents when we want them with all our heart , even it is wrong .. at first they say no but then they agree just for our happiness,even it si against their principle & we r selfish enough to get it with a wide smile & this is what is happening here :) & i firmly believe it is the child who should think of her parent as the parent is ready to change the life long morals but this never takes place & so sacrifices go unfruitful!

I understand about sacrificing yourself but does Saachi have the right to sacrifice Advait, the business and the grandmothers' peace of mind? I agree not many people are so cold blooded but this is a lot of money and if she gives in like this, PRachi begins her married life on the backfoot, na? 😕

Now Sunil also wants to marry PRachi, right? If Saachi had said firmly, "look these are my resources. I can afford this much but not more. Now ball is in your court." Then what would Sunil have done? He is a shaana one - very clever. If he wants PRachi enough, he would have convinced his parents. If he didn't love her enough, Prachi will be unhappy for a while and then be saved from a bad mistake. And if Prachi really didn't marry anyone lifelong 😲 because she could not marry Golden Boy Sunil, well it saves Saachi a lot of money and some guy had a really good escape!!! 😆😆😆

Bubble

Originally posted by: soapbubble

I understand about sacrificing yourself but does Saachi have the right to sacrifice Advait, the business and the grandmothers' peace of mind? I agree not many people are so cold blooded but this is a lot of money and if she gives in like this, PRachi begins her married life on the backfoot, na? 😕

Now Sunil also wants to marry PRachi, right? If Saachi had said firmly, "look these are my resources. I can afford this much but not more. Now ball is in your court." Then what would Sunil have done? He is a shaana one - very clever. If he wants PRachi enough, he would have convinced his parents. If he didn't love her enough, Prachi will be unhappy for a while and then be saved from a bad mistake. And if Prachi really didn't marry anyone lifelong 😲 because she could not marry Golden Boy Sunil, well it saves Saachi a lot of money and some guy had a really good escape!!! 😆😆😆

Bubble

i agree ... & that is why Saachi first said clearly No to them .. but then prachi started taunting sachi saying she doesn't love her & if Saachi avoids this a girl like Prachi wil tarnish the respect of her family .. she may try to elope with Sunil or so on & finally get a broken heart which i honestly want .. unless some girls never get the lesson .. but it is easy for me & you to say what is right or wrong honestly , even the grandmas' too can easily say that ... but it is about the child & parent who go through it ... no parent in the world can see her child crying for anything inlcuding love , no matter how much they r determined , in the end they agree unless u r watching an epi of crime patrol where parents belong to such class who things girls are a burden... i agree Saachi is not her parent but again i m repeating when she tried to take the decision,i mean right decision even begin her elder sis but prachi didn't listen to it & as she is not the parent she can't handle her life .. she had to give her what she wants & i agree abt Advait & granny part but still right now this is what any person wld do , bcoz if she doesn't prachi can do many useless thing like she hinted she wil take sanyas from happiness & all ... & i also get the point that Saachi shld be hard but not to forget her family is her weakness & strength also .. everyone has a weakness & when that weak part of urs try to hurt you u have no choice to give up ... :)

Fantastic post, Bubble👏 I'm glad to see some thoughtful discussion posts being made in this forum.

I love the sher you posted...a cynical one, yes but quite true...and relevant to this situation.

In Saachi's case, when it comes to her sister, her family...she has curbed her principles and given in just to make them happy...case in point being the way she gave in to the demands of the Sunil clan...

But when it comes to strictly herself, she refused to lie for a loan...doesn't budge an inch from her principles there...lol...it's a bit of an irony/paradox...but understandable.

What I love about the writing in this show...and especially in the case of the current track regarding Saachi is that they've shown something very RELEVANT...the decisions that parents/guardians have to struggle with in trying to balance b/w wanting to keep their children happy and doing what's best for them...the doubts regarding that...are they doing the right thing or not? The inability to see their child in pain/hurt...these topics have been maturely tackled in this show.

Practically, Saachi shouldn't have given in to Prachi's stupid tantrums...but think about it...this girl automatically became a "parent", breadwinner at the age of 19...having been dealt with such a huge blow at such a young age, she's ended up overcompensating for the rest of her life...shielding her siblings from even the smallest amount of pain or discomfort in any way she can...going the extra mile just to keep them comfortable and happy...in such a way that it's now become a habit...she doesn't know any other way...it KILLS her to see them in pain...she isn't able to bear it...so with a heavy heart she gives in...despite all her reservations...and then DV reminds her correctly...that these aren't KIDS anymore...they are ADULTS...if they are choosing to make these decisions with their eyes wide open, she can't control everything.

I think what they are showing is something very human...we want to cling to our principles in every situation...but life has a way of laughing at us and putting us in situations where we have to compromise...the degrees may vary...but bit by bit,...woh usool bikte hain as Javed saab rightly pointed out in this couplet...


*Edit: P.S. I can even understand why Saachi chose to want to sell her own ornaments given to her by her mother rather than lie for a business loan...not to say it's the right thing to do...the guilt was written large on Saachi's face even as she broached the topic with Aaji...she herself knew she wasn't doing the right thing and Aaji wouldn't agree...but still she tried...cuz when it comes to herself, she's willing to sacrifice these material things...the sentimentality, notwithstanding. She's making some tough choices...in this case, the decision is in her hands still compared to the Prachi situation where her in-laws haven't really given Saachi any choice...


Also I wouldn't say Saachi gave in at the first sign of trouble...that is an unfair description...she firmly refused the first time...twice told Sunil that this is against her principles...the only reason she struggled with her principles is seeing the amount of pain her sister was in...these things aren't black and white when we are talking about relationships...it is easy to talk of principles then...but when it comes to your loved ones, you can't just sit merrily on your principles...and Saachi as a character has been shown to pamper her siblings and family all her life...within her characterization, this decision fits...now if she was shown to be someone who never budged an inch even for her family then it would be surprising...but the kind of her person that she is...it made sense...

Usool bech kar koi khush toh rehta nahin...but it's not the defeat of her principles that's bothering Saachi so much right now...it is the fact that her sister most likely is heading towards an unhappy life in a family that won't treat her well...

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Fantastic post, Bubble👏 I'm glad to see some thoughtful discussion posts being made in this forum.

I love the sher you posted...a cynical one, yes but quite true...and relevant to this situation.

In Saachi's case, when it comes to her sister, her family...she has curbed her principles and given in just to make them happy...case in point being the way she gave in to the demands of the Sunil clan...

But when it comes to strictly herself, she refused to lie for a loan...doesn't budge an inch from her principles there...lol...it's a bit of an irony/paradox...but understandable.

What I love about the writing in this show...and especially in the case of the current track regarding Saachi is that they've shown something very RELEVANT...the decisions that parents/guardians have to struggle with in trying to balance b/w wanting to keep their children happy and doing what's best for them...the doubts regarding that...are they doing the right thing or not? The inability to see their child in pain/hurt...these topics have been maturely tackled in this show.

Practically, Saachi shouldn't have given in to Prachi's stupid tantrums...but think about it...this girl automatically became a "parent", breadwinner at the age of 19...having been dealt with such a huge blow at such a young age, she's ended up overcompensating for the rest of her life...shielding her siblings from even the smallest amount of pain or discomfort in any way she can...going the extra mile just to keep them comfortable and happy...in such a way that it's now become a habit...she doesn't know any other way...it KILLS her to see them in pain...she isn't able to bear it...so with a heavy heart she gives in...despite all her reservations...and then DV reminds her correctly...that these aren't KIDS anymore...they are ADULTS...if they are choosing to make these decisions with their eyes wide open, she can't control everything.

I think what they are showing is something very human...we want to cling to our principles in every situation...but life has a way of laughing at us and putting us in situations where we have to compromise...the degrees may vary...but bit by bit,...woh usool bikte hain as Javed saab rightly pointed out in this couplet...


*Edit: P.S. I can even understand why Saachi chose to want to sell her own ornaments given to her by her mother rather than lie for a business loan...not to say it's the right thing to do...the guilt was written large on Saachi's face even as she broached the topic with Aaji...she herself knew she wasn't doing the right thing and Aaji wouldn't agree...but still she tried...cuz when it comes to herself, she's willing to sacrifice these material things...the sentimentality, notwithstanding. She's making some tough choices...in this case, the decision is in her hands still compared to the Prachi situation where her in-laws haven't really given Saachi any choice...


Also I wouldn't say Saachi gave in at the first sign of trouble...that is an unfair description...she firmly refused the first time...twice told Sunil that this is against her principles...the only reason she struggled with her principles is seeing the amount of pain her sister was in...these things aren't black and white when we are talking about relationships...it is easy to talk of principles then...but when it comes to your loved ones, you can't just sit merrily on your principles...and Saachi as a character has been shown to pamper her siblings and family all her life...within her characterization, this decision fits...now if she was shown to be someone who never budged an inch even for her family then it would be surprising...but the kind of her person that she is...it made sense...

Usool bech kar koi khush toh rehta nahin...but it's not the defeat of her principles that's bothering Saachi so much right now...it is the fact that her sister most likely is heading towards an unhappy life in a family that won't treat her well...

totally agree & what i m trying to say! 😃

Originally posted by: ...Jes...

i agree ... & that is why Saachi first said clearly No to them .. but then prachi started taunting sachi saying she doesn't love her & if Saachi avoids this a girl like Prachi wil tarnish the respect of her family .. she may try to elope with Sunil or so on & finally get a broken heart which i honestly want .. unless some girls never get the lesson .. but it is easy for me & you to say what is right or wrong honestly , even the grandmas' too can easily say that ... but it is about the child & parent who go through it ... no parent in the world can see her child crying for anything inlcuding love , no matter how much they r determined , in the end they agree unless u r watching an epi of crime patrol where parents belong to such class who things girls are a burden... i agree Saachi is not her parent but again i m repeating when she tried to take the decision,i mean right decision even begin her elder sis but prachi didn't listen to it & as she is not the parent she can't handle her life .. she had to give her what she wants & i agree abt Advait & granny part but still right now this is what any person wld do , bcoz if she doesn't prachi can do many useless thing like she hinted she wil take sanyas from happiness & all ... & i also get the point that Saachi shld be hard but not to forget her family is her weakness & strength also .. everyone has a weakness & when that weak part of urs try to hurt you u have no choice to give up ... :)

Originally posted by: AreYaar

What I love about the writing in this show...and especially in the case of the current track regarding Saachi is that they've shown something very RELEVANT...the decisions that parents/guardians have to struggle with in trying to balance b/w wanting to keep their children happy and doing what's best for them...the doubts regarding that...are they doing the right thing or not? The inability to see their child in pain/hurt...these topics have been maturely tackled in this show.

Also I wouldn't say Saachi gave in at the first sign of trouble...that is an unfair description...she firmly refused the first time...twice told Sunil that this is against her principles...the only reason she struggled with her principles is seeing the amount of pain her sister was in...these things aren't black and white when we are talking about relationships...it is easy to talk of principles then...but when it comes to your loved ones, you can't just sit merrily on your principles...and Saachi as a character has been shown to pamper her siblings and family all her life...within her characterization, this decision fits...now if she was shown to be someone who never budged an inch even for her family then it would be surprising...but the kind of her person that she is...it made sense...

Usool bech kar koi khush toh rehta nahin...but it's not the defeat of her principles that's bothering Saachi so much right now...it is the fact that her sister most likely is heading towards an unhappy life in a family that won't treat her well...

Originally posted by: soapbubble

I agree, Jes - it's easy for us to talk but for Saachi who is a 'mother' - to not do everything she possibly can to make Prachi happy is impossible. Her priority is not her principles but her family.

I understand, but I am just wondering if it is wise?

Bubble

honestly i think it is .. coz when Sachi tried to handle it her way prachi showed her true colors & such kids who doesn't have respect for their elder & specially for the sis who made her able to date a guy .. deserves it , prachi is a total let down for me .. such girls r really shame ! but yes about Sachi killing her morals is never wise .. how can it be? & most of the times it create greater blunders .. but this is what Prachi wants & for now the best option to get rid of that girl or give her what she wants otherwise she wld never show any sympathy for her family & keep being selfish till the end .. once she gets her due , hope she wil understand what she did to her family & mostly to herself !
& it is not about Sachi being wise for me .. it is not her marriage & she is not causing the problem here .. the trouble maker is Prachi & she needs to back off the marriage .. until she does it her family wld have to suffer .. it is her wish & the whole family is paying for it!