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Posted: 12 years ago
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Welcome to yet another DC Reflections...

Here's the link to today's episode... Enjoy !

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSKJgZEtvOw[/YOUTUBE]

PS: This is just to inform you all that since a few of us are traveling and some busy with other things in life... we won't be able to do a regular analysis for every episode. We'll try and make it a combined weekly analysis... but DC shall open everyday, with the episode link for you all to enjoy and relive the magical moments. More importantly, you all are welcome to write your own thoughts on the episode...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Welcome to yet another edition of Reflections ... yea yea i know i was in hibernation mode ... actually as i write i am thinking what shud i blame it on .. shud i be "ahem humble" & say writers block 😉... shud i say track not inspiring ... shud i say travelling ... shud i say busy with life ... or shud i simply say ... the truth ... 😉 ... If u say that TRUTH is STRANGER than FICTION ... then ... here goes .. a fiction show brought together ... a couple of thousands of people across the globe .. who united to watch a show which was truly a script writers poetry ... a characterisation dream ... a love story which we all felt 'happened' ... most of us felt somewhere in our hearts that Arnav & Khushi were residing somewhere & their love was being constantly challenged ...
Well for over 1 year that i have been interacting with like minded people on this forum .. i have constantly heard .. that this show we can 'relate' to the best thing about this show was that it was not ur typical 'saas bahu' saga ... a EkTA maata serial ... RIGHT ...
Now tell me how many of u felt & spoke this .. IPK was DIFFERENT ...

Now if this show was TRULY DIFFERENT .. then why do we NOT TREAT or SEE it as DIFFERENT ... why do we need to pigeon hole characters to 'act' or fit in a particular 'saas bahu' mold ????

Well i read DC a few days back .. & was shocked ... once again i questioned myself .. WHOA WHICH SHOW DO I WATCH .. & WHICH SHOW R THE REST WATCHING ????

I read somewhere .. on the introduction sequence of MAMI .. that she was 'narcissistic" ... whoops .. that made me step back .. & rethink .. did i NOT GET MAMI at all ... & the episode which i am referring to ... is the episode which i had missed in my first viewing of IPK .. so while i watched the first sked of IPK .. i constantly asked myself .. why is Mami like this ??? but then she was not important to the scheme of things so dint expend any mind space on this ..
Then this time around i saw the episode .. of mami introduction .. & was once again blown by the detailing in script writing & characterisation that was IPK ...

Manorama Mami .. not really important in the scheme of things in IPK .. she was just simply an important filler character ... but .. the subtle detailing in her characterisation blew me away ..
NARCISSISTIC .. in her first appearance of the show ... well she was FAR FROM THAT ...
The introduction of MAMI ... gives u the BEST GLIMPSE of her TRUE CHARACTER ... a woman .. whose insecurity about her humble background never gave her the space that was rightfully hers in her 'sasural' ... whats more .. she was NEVER ACCEPTED BY HER MOTHER - IN - LAW ... our dear NANI ... now according to her provincial thinking she always thot this was cause of her humble back ground ... now fast forward to scene .. when Mami comes to know about PAYASH .. & the wedding TALK is brought out ..
Mami says .. " i have never been accepted in this house" ...even Arnav .. drives & plays on this simple insecurity of hers to make her accept Payal .. by saying .. if u r not a RAIZADA BAHU .. u r no one .. BUT More than that .. he says ... U HAVE NO SAY IN THE RAIZADA HOUSEHOLD .. cause whether u want it or NOT .. PAYAL will be made to marry in this household ...
WHOA .. WHOA WHOA ... she stays Back .. & accepts PAYAL as her BAHU ...

Now lets look at Khoon Bhari Taang & Phatti Saari .. two women who come from humble backgrounds .. found their way into Raizada household in the same way as MAMI did .. BUT .. strangely enough .. THEY FOUND INSTANT ACCEPTANCE ... would that IRK an insecure person .. u be the JUDGE ...

Now as to a point raised by someone on DC .. why did ARNAV not ever "give it to Mami " .. how can Arnav give it to anyone ???? what did Mami do to Khushi ... accept .. rip the sari in the beginning .. & then constantly call her Phatti Sari ... ??? yea she was rude or sarcastic with her .. BUT .. i ask u .. how many of you thot .. that Arnav shud give it to Nani .. wasnt she just as sarcastic & rude to Mami ??? But lets leave that aside .. the person RUDEST TO KHUSHI was ARNAV SINGH RAIZADA .. how could he ever question anyone on their rudeness to Khushi ..

Now fast forward to the scene of Dadi intro ... the camera is constantly panning to Mami .. as she sees Arnav standing up for KHUSHI ... now after that day .. did u see Mami be rude to Khushi .. NOPE .. she realised .. the change in Status quo & shut the F*** up ..

Whats more .. the most revealing dialog of mami's is .. during the second GRIH PRAVESH .. she says .. for me nothing is more important than ... Arnav's happiness .. a brilliant way of warning KHUSHI .. toe the line babe .. or i will be back to being the nemesis who calls u PHATTI SARI ..

Similarly lets look at Payal .. i read in one of the DC's .. that why was Payal not aware of KHUSHI's mental state .. whoa .. & why did she not see the obvious that is KHUSHI is on her way to falling in love with Arnav ..
Now dears .. tell me .. when did KHUSHI realise she was in LOVE with Arnav ... 😆
The first time Khushi spoke a good word about Arnav to Payal is .. during the famous bed break episode .. when Arnav stood up for Khushi to Dadi ... thats the first time .. KHUSHI ever uttered a word in favor of Arnav in the presence of Payal ... up untill then .. KHUSHI .. had only ever spoken a RUDE .. or narated a story of how he was 'bad' to her ... i ask u .. did khushi tell Payal .. that Arnav paid off babuji's hospital bill .. did Khushi ever acknowledge that Arnav was the reason Mami agreed to Payal as bahu of the house ... or what ever Arnav did which was GOOD for KHUSHI .. NOPE >. she never did that ... ( i can get into why khushi dint do that .. but then this post will not end 😉) ... SO PLEASE PRAY TO TELL ME ... how would PAYAL .. who can see the INCREDIBLE DISLIKE these 2 have for each other .. ever question KHUSHI ... wasnt she the ONE WHO WAS MOST SHOCKED TO SEE KHUSHI MARRIED TO ARNAV ?????

Now about buaji & her piercing dialog of Khushi being responsible for breaking payal's wedding .. WHOA .. guys .. i dint see anyone raise that point in episode 2 & 3 .. when Garima did the same .. why cause she was then not shown as a caustic character ??? but dint Garima say the same thing ???
Now lets get to the point .. Wasnt KHUSHI responsible for breaking PAYAL's wedding .. DID KHUSHI ever think before she jumped in to save Payal .. did she FIND OUT .. before going to meet 'ABHISHEK" where he was actually staying .. & why would the "barat' still be in the hotel .. when they shud be at the mandap ... did she do all this .. did she consult anyone .. SO WASNT ... KHUSHI's actions .. the reason why PAYAL's first marriage was called off ... at this POINT in the story .. did it matter THAT THIS WAS THE BEST FOR PAYAL ... Buaji did react to what KHUSHI's actions caused PAYAL at that moment ... would it matter if KHUSHI was adopted or real .. would the reaction NOT BE THE SAME from BUAJI ... i leave u with this thot ..

Now this NO THINKING JUST JUMPING reaction of KHUSHI .. did ARNAV not point this out as well .. ok ok . lets forward to the "hot" scene of ladder climbing in Gupta House .. when KHUSHI runs up to the ladder .. what does Arnav point to her .. " why did u not see where the ladder was placed before u climbed it" ?? ... a beautiful & perfect summation of KHUSHI KUMARI GUPTA's character .. LEAP BEFORE U THINK ...

Now why did i write this elaborate piece on the characters which were seriously fillers in the show ... well .. for the last 1 / 2 years on this forum .. all i have read .. is HOW KHUSHI WAS A VICTIM ...

now please connect this to my POST ... where i wrote ... KHUSHI far from being 'destroyed' by Arnav & Shyam .. was the cause of their fall ...

https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3668568&PID=88003732�


PS: a wee correction .. this above linked post which some did not understand was not about Arnav & Shyam it was to highlight that Khushi was not a victim.


KHUSHI KUMARI GUPTA .. was NOT THE VICTIM in this SHOW .. the victim in this SHOW WAS one .. ANJALI JHA .. KHUSHI was the HEROINE IN THIS SHOW .. she gave as good as she GOT ... & emerged triumphant .. she stood on her own feet .. she got her Man by hook or by crook .. she removed the evil from her life .. She became the ULITIMATE WOMAN .. or rather the COMPLETE WOMAN ... A HEROINE ... now .. do u get the IMPORTANCE OF MRS INDIA SHOW .. that was the culmination of the track called KHUSHI KUMARI GUPTA (singh raizada) & thats called LOOP CLOSED ... or coming FULL CIRCLE ...

I ask all of you to watch this show .. removing the 'victim' lens from ur eyes ... seriously .. u will ENJOY This show far far far more .. WHEN U ACTUALLY see KHUSHI .. the warrior ... & not the victim ..
Its ironical .. when the makers give u a TRUE & REAL heroine ... u make her out to be a caricature of a saas bahu / gopi vahu ...
well as they say .. TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION ...

Now to actually " see ur glimpse ' of the HEROINE of the SHOW called IPK .. see the above episode on Ritu's post ... Arnav Singh Raizada ... walks into his office looking dapper .. making plans to conquer his world ... what happens ... KHUSHI KUMARI GUPTA happens ... KHUSHI with a little help from her Devi Maiyyah .. POURS WATER ... on his best laid plans ... literally & figuratively ... there he was running away from her & her thots .. & there she was just waiting to shower on him ... 😉

Then look at the sequence when they meet in the parking lot ... just look at Arnav .. he doesnt say a thing to her in the beginning .. infact warns her off ... BUT .. Crusader Kumari Gupta ... cant let go ... she marches right upto him .. & makes him react to her ...
now if u connect this scene to the 'market scene' between her & shyam when he gives her the appointment letter ... the brilliance of the dichotomy which was IPK comes out shining ..
There in the bazar scene .. SHYAM was doing a GOOD DEED .. he was giving Khushi her appointment letter ... he constantly tries to make her talk to him .. but she wants to shrug him off .. she just takes the letter & brushes him off ..
Cut to this scene .. Arnav does not want to talk to her .. but she marches up to him .. stops him ... & makes him react to her ... THE ONE THING ... KHUSHI would not take was ... ARNAV NOT IN HER LIFE ... hence ..whenever she 'walked away from him" she looked back ... (that was another constant in their interaction) ..


PHEW .. sorry was out of commission for a bit .. but will be back to doing weekly analysis from now onwards .. & take it from me guys .. i will surely be writing on the famous ... fall from grace episode ... & its link to the future episodes of IPK ...

GUD DAY & CU AT THE IPKs ...

ENJOY READING ...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful analysis...loved ur way of describing mami's character and behavior...about Payal's not realizing what's between Arnav-Khushi,I agree with that...well said...Buaji's behavior towards Khushi may not due to adopted or real...but it was rude...and the difference in Arnav-Khushi and Shyam-Khushi interaction... So true...and I loved it...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ruby

As always a masterful post.

Loved it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wow super analysis ,as you said Kushi always speak to Payal about Arnav rudely, when you pointed it out I realised first time she spoke about him softly , thanks for the episode and analysis
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Superb Analysis 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful analysis redwine1. Loved your take on all the characters and you are right Kushi was so much into Arnav since she met him that for her everything revolved around him. Please add me to your buddy list so that i can read all your wonderful analysis.👏👏😊😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Fabulous analysis and excellent points redwine 👏, but let me try a different angle and please, this is not to contradict what you said, but to present things differently ……… bhai, my analysis will be very simple, I'm no eloquent ruby 😊

Mami: one small question…….. is it easier for a young sapling to bend or an old tree? Young sapling any day. In our case it's mami the young one and nani the old tree. Mami should have learnt to bend herself a bit and adapt herself to in-laws place no matter what she was before…….. instead of trying to change, what we saw throughout was a woman who's stuck in her inferiority complex…….. can we help people who only complain and don't want to be helped? This is why they say God Helps Those Who Help Themselves…….. frankly speaking all they showed us is a person who was always putting down others including the old Rahim chacha, talked of status this and that……. Your complexes do not give you the authority to hurt other people, if you are stuck with it, ti's your own problem and those who don't wish to get help, cannot be helped, this is what I see in mami. BTW, did we ever get the impression that she was unable to take care of herself, oh paap bechari? NEVER so, if she truly wanted to be nice, she could have done so, but it was her choice to make herself a victim…..so this is no lame innocent person

now, let's look at La and Mami…. at one point they were sort of sailing in the same boat……… while mami knew about indian traditions and those followed in RM, SHE CHOSE NOT TO FOLLOW THEM PROPERLY, you see, it was her choice, whether out of defiance or not, is not in question here………..looking at La, she was completely clueless about traditions and was rigid in her stance initially, but she did change and decided to follow things and understood that, yes, while we don't have to like everything that's done at home, we sometimes give in, out of respect for elders and there's happiness in that giving………. This is where mami lost out big time, because she stuck to her own world and there was no change in her attitude or behaviour at all……… while La had a change of heart and in the process of changing, she never lost her individuality, she still did things that she used to before coming to RM and also managed to endear herself to others….that's why she became the favourite of all. IMO, La's one of the best designed characters ever in a TV show.

Let's come to mami and asr……..No matter what, ASR is still younger to mami and why would he reprimand her for saying things to Khushi before they got marrried? It's the job of the elders of the house to do so……….. let's come to the day after the forced marriage ………….a husband and wife can say things to each other, but when a third person says something about either one of them, isn't it common for the couple to react? This is what I've seen in the normal world, whereas when mami insulted Khushi after marriage, ASR still kept quiet , now was the time for him to have spoken up, because, she is his wife whether he likes it or not, Khushi is no longer an outsider, right?

Let's come to Payal and Khushi relationship. Though they were shown as being extremely close to each other initially, they sort of drew apart a little bit later; if you think Khushi hid things from Payal, consider Akash courting Payal ….. was Khushi aware of this and did Payal utter a single word about this? So, the moment it came to the men in their lives and change of feelings, these two young ladies hid things from each other.

Now let's come to Payal. She always showed a much more mature attitude and seemed to understand things better than her sister. On one hand, Khushi is talking of how ASR insulted her repeatedly, but later, she also shared about how she was even having dreams about him and openly kept saying inko sugar mana hain and trying to care for him unconsciously, the way she stopped Payal from openly letting out how ASR ruined her life, the way she was constantly talking of him, with all this you mean to say Payal never got any hint that something fishy is going on here? Hmmm, well, in her place, I would……. The sparks that flew each time they met, the undercurrents, everything is an indicator, which Payal didn't pay attention to. I ask you, did Khushi have to tell Payal that she has feelings for ASR? That would be a big NO NO. As far as the matters of the heart are concerned, neither ASR nor Khushi ever shared anything with anybody. It's only much later that people realized these two cannot live without each other. If you are sensitive enough, yes, it's easy to see the changes in your loved one.

True, Khushi was not the victim, but it was Anjali. However, it was quirk of fate that revealed to her Shyam's true colors on time, or else she would have been the true victim. She definitely wasn't the heroine at that time, she was truly someone who was saved by the bell so to speak and NO, it wasn't done by ASR either, but by DM. Agreed that what she chose to do later is what truly made her the heroine, she cried at her fate initially, but decided to get out of it and took action.

Coming to whether Khushi was responsible for breaking Payal's wedding, it was very clear that she jumps before she thinks. But still, her actions weren't the only ones which led to the marriage being cancelled. Okay, she made a mistake and took wrong action, but if ASR didn't hold her back, she could have gotten back on time and perhaps the marriage would have taken place? So, is it completely Khushi's fault? Also, another question is, is Payal herself blameless? I don't think so.

Hmmm, I think Shyam and Arnav tried their best to make Khushi's life miserable, each in his own way, but she emerges the victor.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Awesome analysis, Redwine! The Khushi-Shyam vs Khushi-Arnav was just so brilliant!! Loved it.

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