Astha illegetimate by Kiran's Logic - Page 2

Vazz wrote:
"Kiran did not force him.. she just led him on and our man just fell for it"

I think it's called seduction and the chances for any normal young man to go astray,in the situation that Abhi was in,are very high.
This is not to justify Abhi's infidelity.But to be fair to him,at that time he did not go looking for women to satisfy his needs.Kiran took advantage of the rift in Simran-Abhi marriage.
Now that situation was really close to real life,I think.

I agree with Wahwa,Kiran is lonely and thought she can once again draw Abhi towards her.Since she did not succeed,she is seeking pleasure in destroying their peace of mind.And,yes,unfortunately Simran and Abhi are giving her this chance on a platter. 😡 😔

Hey whatson...Your "hell hath no fury..."quote is perfect.👍🏼

I agree that Kiran is one of those types,who can never be happy with their life and can't see anyone else happy as well!Bitter & lost souls,unfortunately! 🤢

But i don't think we shud give her the credit of:"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!",watsonmamu!cos that can only apply to women who was left by their husbands/lover,for another woman,but in Kiran's case,she left Abhi,and SHE was the 'other woman'in Abhi's life as well,so i think its too much credit given to such a character!She is just a loser..big time loser..whose got no direction in life and is clueless as to what she actually wants,and now basically,in my opinion..she's desperate to cling on to Abhi,for her yet again selfish reasons..and that is financial security..(the first time coz she wanted to be a model!)as Anil is her out...!! 😡

This is my humble opinion,sorry if i have offended anyone! 😛

Hey Mumtaz,
Your opinion does NOT offend anyone,i think.
But I beg to differ.
The quote"Hell hath No fury" goes for ANY woman who BELIEVES she has been wronged.

It's the Asian belief that when a victim,who is a good soul,has had enough and decides to take action,can make life worse than hell for the evil doer.
"Unki Haaii lagti hai" kind of thing.
Correct me if I am wrong...

But I did get what you are trying to say about Kiran."What right does she have?"...Is that what you trying to say?

Cheers

Yeah something like that,Akshata!!I agree to what u said abt 'hell hath no fury'thingy,i guess i just relate it mostly to women who was dumped for another woman,kind of thing!! 😛 I guess ur rite abt that one!!

yeah,Kiran has no rite to feel the way she feels,she is NOT justified in any manner!Like i what i said earlier,she is just a big time loser,who is unhappy with her life and wants the same with everyone,and her EGO is not permitting her on top of that,to accept the fact that Abhi is actually back with Simran,although she was fine when he was with Neha etc!!

And Akshata,I am very sorry if i keep repeating in my posts about not wanting to offend anyone,cos honestly speaking,i am alil afraid and paranoid,as i see alot of members who DO get offended in certain topics and get personal,and then sometimes it turns ugly!So i am alil cautious there,as i believe everyone of us wants to have alittle bit of fun and healthy discussions in this forum,and anything like that if can be avoided,wud be for the best! 😛

Mumtaz, you haven't offended anyone, especially me! It is a healthy discussion and everyone is entitled to their opinion. So no worries.

Kiran, I agree, is a loser. She herself is miserable at this stage in life (don't know what happened to Anil) and she cannot stand the fact that Abhi is HAPPY with Simran.

In yesterday's episode in the US, they showed Kiran meeting Abhi after 18 years. She tells him that it is love that has brought them face to face after so many years and that Abhi is her first and only love. Abhi tells her that he made a mistake being with her (Kiran). I guess it is this realization that angers Kiran and makes her want to take revenge on Abhi and Simran. In this way, I think she feels she has been dumped by her love. Hence the quote!

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
A woman is scorned when she will not get her way and this is more so with women who are not satisfied with their life or life partners. It correctly fits Kiran, she first lured Abhi to her charm, then she went to Anil Souri. When she is thrown out by Anil, she is now trying to get Abhi back. Such women can only destroy other lives along with their own. She is not the one to learn from her mistakes.

What about Urmila? Did'nt she has been through the same situation....Simran fought with Manas to take her back again in his life. If its fair for a person to get back all happiness of life once again then why its unfair for another person?

youre right
nice point! 😛

Hey Mumtaz...you wrote:

"And Akshata,I am very sorry if i keep repeating in my posts about not wanting to offend anyone,cos honestly speaking,i am alil afraid and paranoid,as i see alot of members who DO get offended in certain topics and get personal,and then sometimes it turns ugly!So i am alil cautious there,as i believe everyone of us wants to have alittle bit of fun and healthy discussions in this forum,and anything like that if can be avoided,wud be for the best!"

PLEASE don't keep apologising everytime you contradict someone.It's very evident from your posts that you are just having fun and you always have something humorous as well as valid to say.It's nice to know that you care.

We only object to abusive language.That is the code of conduct followed by the India-Forums.
If people are not rigidly pro or anti towards any character,discussions will be more interesting as there is an exchange of views.
I have always been fond of writing and love talk shows and interviews and discussions.That's why i am here.I try to stay out of topics that may turn ugly but as an assistant to the Moderator,i have to intervene at times.

Now back to the discussion:
As far as rights go,ofcourse Urmila had the right if she still were his wife when she came out of jail.But they were divorced.And most importantly perhaps she is more sensible to realize that she herself ruined her married life with her imagination about Simran-Manas affair,instigated by Dr.Ashwin.
She is grateful to Manas that he tried to give her all the help he could inspite of her mistakes and that's why she let move on.

Kiran was and is the other woman and chose to leave Abhi.So what is the comparison here???

Scorpio,Are you refering to Simran as the one who has got all her happines back?? Well,she made that choice.She has forgiven Abhi and decided to start afresh. Unfortunately for Urmila,Manas is not so large hearted and fell in love with Ria.

Hi Akshata/WhatsonMamu,
Thanks for the reassurance of me not offending anyone in my discussions!

I will stop apologising henceforth and ensure that discusions stay healthy and fruitful to all of us!

Yeah,i agree with u Akshata,Manas fell in love with Ria,as a sign that he has moved on and that Urmila is just someone he was in love with and a mother to his son,and he was helping her basing on that,which is fine,as sometimes,so many things happens between a couple which includes betrayal of trust(which unfortunately happened in Manas and Urmila's lives,when she had an affair with Ashwin!)its not possible to just simply pick up the pieces and start over,and its best that they move on as indviduals,and if they can,be friends and if they can't,then stay away from each other!
As far as Simran is concerned,she never stopped loving Abhi to start with,she tried moving on,with Dr.Joshi and all,but hearts of heart,she knew she couldn't when Abhi resurfaced!So it is but natural for her to choose to start her life again with him,it was a very natural choice!And we also know,that even though Abhi betrayed SImran and had an affair and later married Kiran(Illegally,due to his mother's pressure and kiran's desperation!!),he never stopped haveing a soft cornr for Simran,and he later married NEha,out of compulsion and pressure by Simran and to oblige her(if u guys remember,he had mentioned once,that:Pehli baar zindagi mein,Simran ne mujhse kuch maanggi hei,mein kaise naa duu ussey?')but he never stopped caring and feeling for Simran!Yes,it wasn;t fair to Neha,i agree,and ABhi was not justified in whatever he did,absoloutely agreed,but there is no reason as to why Simran and Abhi shud not be back together again and entitled to some form of happiness!!So,i guess my point here is,Simran made the right choice to welcome Abhi into her life again,and for once,not live a hypocritical life to please others,and Kiran,needs to move on and get a life!! 😡
As far as Manas and Urmila is concerned,they both have moved on perfectly with their lives and i think they're doing just fine,as long as they're happy! 😊