Today's party epi - Page 4

Lol, the Bermuda Triangle, the black hole, whoosh, they are gone. Any hopes Ovi might be headed the same way?

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Lol, the Bermuda Triangle, the black hole, whoosh, they are gone. Any hopes Ovi might be headed the same way?

Also agree abt Manav's two faced behavior.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Also agree abt Manav's two faced behavior.

He will always be a hypocrite and he will lie even to himself. He will never acknowledge the universal destruction caused by his spoiled princess Ovi! Hes saying Purvi made mistakes, fine, but what abt his daughter? Did he ever take her to task after she bought Arjun with that infamous deal? No, he accepted it happily because Ovi got what she wanted, he didnt care abt Purvi's heartbreak! 😡

Manav is blind to his faults and those of the ones he loves. He however, magnifies the faults fo those he considers less than himself. Thus his insane reactions to Purvi and Soham. I really dislike Manav.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

😆 Vapid is the word that comes to mind when I think of her. Maybe she will improve with time? 😉

Gauri improve with time? I don't think so. Lukewarm tea when rebrewed becoems acrid. Only solution is a fresh cuppa. New heroine for Soham please.

I have not been watching PR for some time now, but I did see the last but one episode at the urging of friends who wanted my take on it.

I agree completely with you, Janhvi, about the whole bigamy track being Onir's bid to top the mahaanta stakes.. And this is not a fond hope - indulged in because I do not like the way in which the one consistently positive character in PR is being made to act like a moral contortionist - but a solid deduction based on such facts as we have from the telecasts.

In fact, it was clear to me, after running the Arjun-Onir encounter part of Tuesday thru thrice, that Onir was egging Arjun on by the casual arrogance of his remarks about how he liked Purvi and married her, but now that his past had resurfaced, he had to go back to Shalini. There was a deliberateness to what he said and how he said it - ending with the statement, undoubtedly accurate, that neither Shalini nor he owed Arjun any explanation - that admitted of no other explanation.

I wish, however, that Onir had asked Arjun what his locus standi in the matter was: as Purvi's ex-lover or her current hopeful? It was a pity he did not do that. Archana slapping Onir, or Manav or even Soham pulling him up is logical, but why does Onir need to explain anything to Arjun? If it was about Pari, the sole area where Arjun has a locus standi, Onir does not come into that any more, as Purvi has taken Pari and left his kholi.

What stayed with me from that scene was the very curious expression on Onir's face after he surfaces from the slap with all the effortless aplomb of Amitabh Bachchan in Bombay to Goa (the scene that got him his first big hit, Zanjeer, and thus his whole career as well), and tells Arjun again, without the slightest awkwardness, Leave! It was somewhat sad and knowing at the same time, and that told me beyond doubt that he was faking all this quite deliberately.

And it is not just what happened day before yesterday. Earlier too, it was very strange, the way he talks loudly to her within Purvi's earshot in that one room kholi, when he could easily have gone out and had a private conversation, and the way in which he loudly restates their marital condition in the market after seeing that Purvi is standing a little way off, her ears wide open.

Moreover, I cannot understand how no one in Kolkatta, where half the city seems to know him. knew of his earlier marriage and did not remark on it when he parades all over town with his (new?) wife, his Mishti. What about his aged retainer, Shambu Dada, and his close friends? Would not one of them have tattled to Purvi about her patidev's first wife? Even if he had divorced her? My dear, it is unbelievable, and totally ridiculous.Typical of the PR creatives.

If you think back at the whole Onir-Purvi track, one can make no sense of it at all if he was married earlier and had not divorced his first wife. He has been professionally destroyed and for what? For the dubious pleasure of a platonic 'marriage', where he does not even get to act dad to Pari as her real dad is always hovering around?

How long did he think he could carry on without being exposed? He is not a village yokel, or a common, anonymous individual, he is very widely known all over the country, and his earlier marriage would have been public knowledge too. How come no one, including that Dr Braganza, had no idea of it? If you remember, she says clearly that 6 months ago, Onir was not married. It makes NO sense at all.

I think his mahaanta plans came up after Ovi bailed out. Which is something I detest. I HATE this mahaanta complex, whether in Archana or Purvi or now Onir. Why can people not sit down and talk things over decently and part decently? Onir could have told her: You go back to Arjun as he is now free, and I am tired of a loveless marriage.

She would have gone, for deep down, she never really cared for Onir. She simply accepted all he did for her and focussed only on her own interests, viz her parivaar. I used to say that for Purvi, there are only two categories of people. First, those for whom she will do anything: her aai, her aaji and her aai's parivaar. Second. those to whom she will do anything, to protect the interests of the first lot, and Arjun and Onir fit in here.

If she had really cared for Onir, and I am not talking of love, she would never have been able to get over the professional destruction and public shame she has brought down on him, reducing a world renowned doctor to doing manual labour to provide for her and her kid. She would have felt it under her skin every waking moment. But she shakes that off in a jiffy, and all she can bring herself to utter, and that too just once, is Kahin na kahin, iske liye main bhi zimmedar hoon.!! Main bhi?? And by now, she seems to have forgotten all about it.

In all the time that they were together, what has she given him? Not even a proper bed to sleep in, and that too even after she has had the baby. I cannot think of a single thing that Onir gained from marrying this girl, and I can think of a lot that he has lost. Of course it was due to his own folly in indulging every whim of hers regardless of ethics and commonsense, but the fact is that it is he who has become a public pariah for something that was never his idea. Who says anything to her?

Even now, when she believes that Onir has two-timed her, how does that take away all that he did for her when she was expecting the baby, and since? Or the fact that his very highly regarded career and reputation was wrecked for good by her folly? Or the fact that he never took advantage of her physically, not even when she made advances to him?

But one does not expect her to remember any of that ' in fact she now makes an about turn and talks of her not having given him pati ka darja, as if all that makes a man your pati is that physical relationship, not caring or affection or protectiveness. What a cheap concept!

So there is no question of expecting her to talk to him for once and see what he has to say.

The fact is that she is hurt in her amour propre, and in nothing else. I have not seen the latest episode, but if she is lamenting Onir's ditching her, it is because her ego is hurt, that is all. She is used to dumping people for a greater bhalaayi, as defined by herself, witness what she did to Arjun on that hilltop, when she betrayed his trust totally and brutally. Now that it seems that she has been dumped, she cannot see beyond that, and she cannot take it. When she eventually finds out that it was all a sham, she will blossom anew in self-satisfaction.

And yes, I too agree 100% that ArVi (I never used this vegetable terminology in the old days, but it will do just fine now) need to get together pronto. There is no need to bother about Ovi, for the ubiquitous divorce papers are already there, and Onir, after committing professional suicide, has eliminated himself deliberately for their bhalaayi .

When I think of how much I used to care for ArVi just a year ago, and how faded and tattered their love story seems to me now, it is enough to make one weep.

Of course, the fat will be in the fire if and when Ovi turns up in 3 months, with another Kirloskar Jr. on the way. Now that should liven things up, and cause a lot of grief to all those plumping for the ArVi reunion because they insist that a child, in this case Pari, needs to be with both her biological parents. With another Arjun-Ovi baby on the way, it can hardly be argued that only Pari has this right.

What to do then, other than hope that this baby too goes the way of its predecessor, the one that Onir trashed without so much as a by your leave to its mother? Clone Arjun, perhaps? Or set up a menage a trois?

Oh, well, what is the point of lamenting over this train wreck of a show? It is all a confounded and ugly mess, and no one, but no one comes out looking even tolerably good.

As I wrote elsewhere today, my last forlorn hope, that Jodha Akbar would be so successful that it would bump PR up to the 11 pm slot and then out, has been dashed to the ground. So we are stuck with this horror show for a long while yet, and the only thing for me to do is to revert to not watching it..

Starting now, and, hopefully, lasting!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

My gut tells me (I could be way off) that Onir is deliberately putting on this naatak for Purvi. He is no charlatan, he truly loves Purvi and is pretending to be married to Shalini. Shalini might be a close friend of Onir's and she lends credence to his false story. I would prefer that than Purvi being married to a bigamist. Things couldn't go that wrong with a good person. Either way, the end result would be Arjun and Purvi getting back together if Ms. Ovi serves the papers. I do not believe Arjun will initiate divorce proceedings against Ovi. Purvi would never agree to marry Arjun unless the divorce came from Ovi.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I have not been watching PR for some time now, but I did see the last but one episode at the urging of friends who wanted my take on it.

I agree completely with you, Janhvi, about the whole bigamy track being Onir's bid to top the mahaanta stakes.. And this is not a fond hope - indulged in because I do not like the way in which the one consistently positive character in PR is being made to act like a moral contortionist - but a solid deduction based on such facts as we have from the telecasts.

In fact, it was clear to me, after running the Arjun-Onir encounter part of Tuesday thru thrice, that Onir was egging Arjun on by the casual arrogance of his remarks about how he liked Purvi and married her, but now that his past had resurfaced, he had to go back to Shalini. There was a deliberateness to what he said and how he said it - ending with the statement, undoubtedly accurate, that neither Shalini nor he owed Arjun any explanation - that admitted of no other explanation.

I wish, however, that Onir had asked Arjun what his locus standi in the matter was: as Purvi's ex-lover or her current hopeful? It was a pity he did not do that. Archana slapping Onir, or Manav or even Soham pulling him up is logical, but why does Onir need to explain anything to Arjun? If it was about Pari, the sole area where Arjun has a locus standi, Onir does not come into that any more, as Purvi has taken Pari and left his kholi.

What stayed with me from that scene was the very curious expression on Onir's face after he surfaces from the slap with all the effortless aplomb of Amitabh Bachchan in Bombay to Goa (the scene that got him his first big hit, Zanjeer, and thus his whole career as well), and tells Arjun again, without the slightest awkwardness, Leave! It was somewhat sad and knowing at the same time, and that told me beyond doubt that he was faking all this quite deliberately.

And it is not just what happened day before yesterday. Earlier too, it was very strange, the way he talks loudly to her within Purvi's earshot in that one room kholi, when he could easily have gone out and had a private conversation, and the way in which he loudly restates their marital condition in the market after seeing that Purvi is standing a little way off, her ears wide open.

Moreover, I cannot understand how no one in Kolkatta, where half the city seems to know him. knew of his earlier marriage and did not remark on it when he parades all over town with his (new?) wife, his Mishti. What about his aged retainer, Shambu Dada, and his close friends? Would not one of them have tattled to Purvi about her patidev's first wife? Even if he had divorced her? My dear, it is unbelievable, and totally ridiculous.Typical of the PR creatives.

If you think back at the whole Onir-Purvi track, one can make no sense of it at all if he was married earlier and had not divorced his first wife. He has been professionally destroyed and for what? For the dubious pleasure of a platonic 'marriage', where he does not even get to act dad to Pari as her real dad is always hovering around?

How long did he think he could carry on without being exposed? He is not a village yokel, or a common, anonymous individual, he is very widely known all over the country, and his earlier marriage would have been public knowledge too. How come no one, including that Dr Braganza, had no idea of it? If you remember, she says clearly that 6 months ago, Onir was not married. It makes NO sense at all.

I think his mahaanta plans came up after Ovi bailed out. Which is something I detest. I HATE this mahaanta complex, whether in Archana or Purvi or now Onir. Why can people not sit down and talk things over decently and part decently? Onir could have told her: You go back to Arjun as he is now free, and I am tired of a loveless marriage.

She would have gone, for deep down, she never really cared for Onir. She simply accepted all he did for her and focussed only on her own interests, viz her parivaar. I used to say that for Purvi, there are only two categories of people. First, those for whom she will do anything: her aai, her aaji and her aai's parivaar. Second. those to whom she will do anything, to protect the interests of the first lot, and Arjun and Onir fit in here.

If she had really cared for Onir, and I am not talking of love, she would never have been able to get over the professional destruction and public shame she has brought down on him, reducing a world renowned doctor to doing manual labour to provide for her and her kid. She would have felt it under her skin every waking moment. But she shakes that off in a jiffy, and all she can bring herself to utter, and that too just once, is Kahin na kahin, iske liye main bhi zimmedar hoon.!! Main bhi?? And by now, she seems to have forgotten all about it.

In all the time that they were together, what has she given him? Not even a proper bed to sleep in, and that too even after she has had the baby. I cannot think of a single thing that Onir gained from marrying this girl, and I can think of a lot that he has lost. Of course it was due to his own folly in indulging every whim of hers regardless of ethics and commonsense, but the fact is that it is he who has become a public pariah for something that was never his idea. Who says anything to her?

Even now, when she believes that Onir has two-timed her, how does that take away all that he did for her when she was expecting the baby, and since? Or the fact that his very highly regarded career and reputation was wrecked for good by her folly? Or the fact that he never took advantage of her physically, not even when she made advances to him?

But one does not expect her to remember any of that ' in fact she now makes an about turn and talks of her not having given him pati ka darja, as if all that makes a man your pati is that physical relationship, not caring or affection or protectiveness. What a cheap concept!

So there is no question of expecting her to talk to him for once and see what he has to say.

The fact is that she is hurt in her amour propre, and in nothing else. I have not seen the latest episode, but if she is lamenting Onir's ditching her, it is because her ego is hurt, that is all. She is used to dumping people for a greater bhalaayi, as defined by herself, witness what she did to Arjun on that hilltop, when she betrayed his trust totally and brutally. Now that it seems that she has been dumped, she cannot see beyond that, and she cannot take it. When she eventually finds out that it was all a sham, she will blossom anew in self-satisfaction.

And yes, I too agree 100% that ArVi (I never used this vegetable terminology in the old days, but it will do just fine now) need to get together pronto. There is no need to bother about Ovi, for the ubiquitous divorce papers are already there, and Onir, after committing professional suicide, has eliminated himself deliberately for their bhalaayi .

When I think of how much I used to care for ArVi just a year ago, and how faded and tattered their love story seems to me now, it is enough to make one weep.

Of course, the fat will be in the fire if and when Ovi turns up in 3 months, with another Kirloskar Jr. on the way. Now that should liven things up, and cause a lot of grief to all those plumping for the ArVi reunion because they insist that a child, in this case Pari, needs to be with both her biological parents. With another Arjun-Ovi baby on the way, it can hardly be argued that only Pari has this right.

What to do then, other than hope that this baby too goes the way of its predecessor, the one that Onir trashed without so much as a by your leave to its mother? Clone Arjun, perhaps? Or set up a menage a trois?

Oh, well, what is the point of lamenting over this train wreck of a show? It is all a confounded and ugly mess, and no one, but no one comes out looking even tolerably good.

As I wrote elsewhere today, my last forlorn hope, that Jodha Akbar would be so successful that it would bump PR up to the 11 pm slot and then out, has been dashed to the ground. So we are stuck with this horror show for a long while yet, and the only thing for me to do is to revert to not watching it..

Starting now, and, hopefully, lasting!

Shyamala

The problem for me,Janhvi, is that I cannot summon up even a sliver of interest in whether or not Arjun and Purvi ever get together. It is like a long forgotten dish tucked away at the back of the bottom shelf of the refrigerator, now retrieved, and seen to be mouldy in parts and dried up in others. The CVs are trying hard to revive it, but as far as I am concerned, it cannot be done.

Nor am I keen that Onir should carry on with Purvi, for she does not care for him , whereas he cares too much for her, and I do not see why he should be perennially shortchanged. Plus having to put up with Arjun turning up every other day under the pretext of seeing Pari, not to speak of Purvi sobbing on Arjun's shoulder whenever it rains. It is unbelievable, and any normal husband would have horsewhipped Arjun and told Purvi plainly to choose between the two of them. After that rain scene outside the hospital, which spouse would believe that the Arjun-Purvi relationship is innocent? For Onir to go on being 'understanding' makes him look like a lallu.

I think he should leave this pair to their own devices and push off to Kolkatta, where the locals might by now have run out of stones. Let them and Ovi fight it out between themselves.He has lost enough because of his obsession with the Tar Baby of a female, and if he hangs around much longer, worse may befall him. She is simply not worth it.

I am also curious to see if Purvi misses Onir for his own sake. Her feelings for Arjun are at present a theoretical construct, but she has lived very comfortably and happily with Onir for nearly a year, and been cossetted and cherished and supported unconditionally all this while. It remains to be seen what those memories, and the loss of that relationship now, do to her, if anything.

I am not here talking of gratitude, just of missing that person and all that he provided her- understanding, support, affection and caring. Plus, I am surprised that it never occurs to her that the Onir she knows so well could never do such a thing. Women usually err on the other side, of clinging on long past the breaking point. Woh aise kabhi nahin kar sakte, they wail.

Purvi is the opposite, or at least so it seems as of now, quick to reject without a backward glance and not even a passing thought to all that she has gained from him. When she talked of her being happy she had not given him pati ka darja, I felt like throwing up; it was so cheap and sick,besides being totally untrue.

She and that Gauri are a perfect match. I feel very sorry for poor Soham if he is to be landed with that pain in the neck.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Shyamala, happy to see you on the forum!! Where have you been? I too believe all this is a charade on the part of Onir for the very reasons that you have outlined. Even Shalini's deliberate dropping the keys near Archana's feet was very clumsily contrived. Not sure if there will be an ARVI reunion as Purvi is busy convincing Arjun not to sign those divorce papers while Onir is doing the same with Ovi (SBS segment). If Onir wants Purvi to get back with Arjun, it does not make sense for him to be pushing Ovi on to Arjun. Unless Purvi and Onir have reconciled their differences in the meantime. It is worse than a mere train wreck, the story got derailed a long while ago, it is now a blazing inferno teetering over a precipice but not falling off quick enough to grant us deliverance.