What was missing for me in the Mahaepisode - Page 2

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Laila (Can i call you that? :) )
Points well made.
But only in retrospect.
As i was watching it none of this struck me. Except for the dancing part that was weird.
I've lightened up a fair bit where editing is concerned. I actually saw this other show yesterday and it was so horribly bad that it made QH editing seemed good!
Although most of what you pointed out is considered 'trivial' but actually a little acknowledging of logic can in fact go a long way.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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😳 17 of you liked my post? I am truly touched. I do love this show and find this jodi quite delightful to watch. I really had high expectations after Thursday's episode. The show had done so well so I was eager to see this episode and sorely disappointed. It could have been so much better. It did have some good moments which I did point out.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: LoveRosh

All the technicalities you proposed i completely agree with. At times it was shotty camera work, shotty action sequences (bike/jungle) and poor script. Things good have been done much better in fact i also feel it seened choppy. For example, the scene where asad was using hammer to break handcuffs, it looked as if there was meant to be a convo but it didnt materialize. Ksg kept looking up at surbi but in the end zoya only said like one thing. Then when yash arti spot the both it immediately cuts to the four having lunch together. Idk it seemed really choppy and there wasnt any continuity between scenes and shots. The dark room when asad zoya had the mitwa moment, I COULDNT SEE THEM. =| all i saw was dark. Poor lighting ruined the entire scene. I felt as if technicalities wise the mahasangam lacked immensly. Not that im conplaining about the vast attention qubool hai had in this show merger episode, i also LOVE punar vivah just as much and so i was also upset that pv got very bad amount of screen space. Plus one shot yash arti were speaking to mummyji yashs mom about going to mangalpur and next shot the gubdas after zoya asad catch yash arti in a room at the dhabba instead... I mean how did they get there that quickly from bhopal? If they can get there so quick wouldnt asad zoyas car from bhopal be able to come that quickly too, and not the mext morning? Makes no sense =|

Anyways! All in all very lackluster. But overall i think storywise there was plenty progress which was the only benefit. Both qubool hai and pvivahs stories moved forward dramatically in just one episode and the second half of te sangam is still left. So in really happy on that front.


Thank you for your comments and feedback. I too noted these flaws that you mentioned and all the confusion. I too agree; the transitional scenes were very poor. I like some of the other things you pointed out regarding PV. Since I do not watch this show, the bloopers did not irritate me to the same degree. I had no expectations.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey..Nice post..To be quite honest, i hate Mahasangams primarily cos am forced to watch shows which i don otherwise follow..i was bored with the PV scenes..no offence to PV fans,am sure the feelings are mutual😆 The fact that random scenes from another show were interjected made the Asya scenes seem disconnected..Am sure if u view the scenes at a stretch,they wil make so much more sense..Now regarding Asad protecting Zoya without knowing the reason, it just shows that he wouldn't let a third person harm Zoya even if he doesn't agree with her ideologies..Shows thrive on drama and am sure Asad is gonna feel super guilty when he gets to know the real reason behind the mess..Thats precisely why they have kept him in the dark..That said, i really hope they dont show Asad falling for Zoya after knowing the reason..That would look very unnatural and out of character..What i hope to see is an understanding developing between the two and Asad changing his opinion about her..The two establishing an emotional connect and becoming friends would be awesome..Now regarding the last scene, i couldn't quite connect to the fact that a mature couple like Yash and Aarti start romancing in public that too in front of strangers😕It all looked made up and fake..But the Asya bits were awesome..These two really have awesome chemistry😳
P.S..i thought the whole Ayaan-Humeira sequence was well directed..As u mentioned earlier, the person playing Razia is such a brilliant actress
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thank you for your wonderful response, my comments are below:

Originally posted by: bee5


Laila,
Excellent write up! That u have not proof read it and made no typos, makes it even more brilliant!
If they had gone through their script in detail like u have detailed, would've saved them from a poor job.

😳 Aw, thank you...your opinion has always mattered to me, so I am touched at your praise.

Anyway, with all the goof ups and inconsistencies, I still find it in sync with all of the previous episodes. That means, for me, QH is not that great a show from the beginning and this episode was no different. Yes, there were some very beautiful scenes and scenarios, but on the whole, not very impressive.

Coming to the details of this episode -
1. Who were chasing?
That is bcos to them it wasn't important who were chasing and how it lead to the chase. Their main criteria seemed to be to show that Asya and Zoya are running together and in hand cuffs. The concentration was more to romanticize that part and hence the details that would've made it plausible were unfortunately left out.
Same goes to the scene where the edit showed the same chase scene shot in 3 diff angles :) that was so not required, but they tried to make stylish while they left out the basic details ! Poor job.

See, that's really disappointing. It is shoddy work when the writers don't take time out to clarify this point. i understand they want to show romance but without logic, it loses perspective. It works with some viewers but not others. You know, when i look at it, those jungle scenes were probably shot that way. My 'fb friend" 😉 probably had them shoot it at different angles.

2. Motorbike?
Where exactly did that motorbike come from? And whose was it?

I know..yeah, it's cute he showed up but from where? The run was not enough time for him to go, get the helmet and meet her out there.

3. Jungle.
From the road they were going into jungle not coming out to find a dhaba. Who has a lodge-cum-dhaba inside a jungle?

Apparently so. Perhaps it is part of tourist spot that offers guided tours into the jungle😆 Honeymoon resort where you take your partner and whom you are trying to bump off...leave them in the jungle and claim the insurance. I am "guessing" though (here I have to do the work because the writers haven't) that they have been walking for a long time and that they are not necessarily in the jungle but a very wooded area. Still, it didn't bug me too much (see, I can leave some logic at the door😉)

4. Actual truth not disclosed
Of course we know the writer made Intelligent Zoya a little stupid and dumb by leaving out the most important point , that of the rape and hence her advise for the girl to run away. Why, why bcos they want to drag the misunderstandings between Asad-Zoya so that they can make some more episodes on that - 'Zoya is the biggest problem herself' topic. Kinda getting repetitive, Asad rather insensitive & not utilizing his brains and going off on a tangent , not asking the right questions and always personally attacking Zoya and her parents of their upbringing of her. In addition they are dumbing down Zoya a lot.

This really ruined it for me. You want to prolong his hatred for her as a writer, that's fine, but that was a poor move and lacked creativity. Here's hoping they have not totally screwed this up and turned it into the 'secret that must be kept or else' just to prolong the show. that would be so disappointing. A few others members of this forum have expressed similar frustration with how the writers molding "Zoya" - let us see...so far she's been fine to me. She's still likable compared to you know who on another show.

5. Store room?
Oh no, I don't thnk it was a separate store room, just that the jail cell extended to the back and it was being utilized to store unwanted stuff and it looked dungeon with no light.

See, the confusion. a jail cell that enters into a store room? Seriously shoddy work if we're all so confused. I guess since the viewers got their Mitwa scene they didn't care but for me, too many flaws ruins it.

6. The whole time my head was wandering to how is she going to spend the whole day without going to the restroom? :-o I guess, since they are fictional , they don't even have such natural requirements :)

I loved a writer here who wrote some fan fiction who came up with a great idea - Zoya was trying to drink some water and Asad reminded here they were 'bonded together" - it was an incredible idea without being coarse or vulgar. That one sentence by a visitor to the forum was great - it was witty and would have added an element of reality to the show while adding humor and intelligence.

7. All points noted Laila, and I agree - no one sits there and watches another couple get romantic. At one side, Asad is Helping Zoya, but at the same time, it didn't sit well that bcos of that sudden jerk action, Zoya's wrist bleeds from the handcuffs and there is no remorse in him. Of course he doesn't say sorry, so I can't expect that, but at least a little sad? guilty? None!

That was so weird...but they do it for the viewers since (and this what they've PH people say😉) they have no desire for logic, so they can do anything they want. I thought it strange that he didn't do anything but my guess (and here I interpret the scene but I have no idea what the writers are trying to convey or if they even know it) that I will protect you because you are my mother's guest but if you cut yourself, I really dont' give a toss.

I did like his wink and also when Zoya finally feels very uncomfortable and looks away and he is trying to look at her. But couldn't make out if he was liking her? Feeling sorry for her? Falling in love with her? Or what? For me, the Asad-Zoya part is very poorly written. There is no clarity in the script when it comes to them,

It is the old age - opposites attract - love hate relationship. If I was writing it, and if I was looking it at from an objective perspective, I would not have had them fall in love at this point. To me it is a sense of awkwardness and discomfort. We're forced to be close, we're watching two people get romantic, and this is really strange. And perhaps both are thinking "don't get any ideas." Plus what do they say to each other at this point? I think the silence was the best part, but the hand movements by Asad that forced Zoya into his lap was simply done to do that. Her adjusting her duppata or hair made sense and the part with him moving her dupatta on her, that was a good move on the director/writer part. As a few people have expressed it shows that although he ignored her cut, the does wish to protect her honor and her dignity and will be a chivalrous male.

but the rest of the QH with their characters, the story is well conveyed. It seems like they haven't made up their minds and still toying with the idea as to how to take this part of the story further and hence so much of uncrtainty in the script.

For me, the major disappointment in QH is Zoya's characterization. It is not at all consistent. I like her spunk and I laugh at some of the funny stuff, but there is no seriousness when required and she is suddenly made silly and that makes me lose credibility over that character.

Here's how I see it...the eventually comes to tolerate her, perhaps even like her when she sacrifices herself for him tomorrow and he finds out the truth. He helps her, she falls in love, he marries her so she can stay in the country. They pretend it is a real marriage...they argue, fight, audience loves the romance and get all excited. She wants the marriage to work, he's confused, and then she finds her family, argument or misunderstanding happens and then, they separate and then we see them get back together. They have to make this last a couple of years...as a writer, the biggest question is do they want them to sleep together during this temporary marriage or after they get back together😆😆😆

Anyway QH isn't a serious watch for me.

I may enter that realm if they goof up big time. So far I have enjoyed it this romance. I like Asad and Zoya - they've grown on me and I hope to see a good romance. I've been disappointed before and faster than most...so I am hoping that this does not let me down like other jodis.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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WOWWW ur sucha good writer...
Nd I cmpletely agree with awl ur points !!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sunshine Girl

WOWWW ur sucha good writer...
Nd I cmpletely agree with awl ur points !!


Thank you. I am truly flattered as I seriously consider myself mediocre. You have some amazing writers here and some who are super at writing fan fiction - they have a tremendous vocab compared to me. I am embarrassed before them.😳

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