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Happy 87th everyoneπŸ€—




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Congrats on 87!πŸ€—
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by without-fathom

Awww Vasu πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† Main bi sochu, aisi bi kya secret novel likhi hai, the ISBN searches just came out invariably empty no matter what source or website!!! Abi it's making sense!!! πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

And she's definitely writing one, because when I was trying so desperately for Google to miracle produce a novel she'd written in 2012, it kept showing me snippets of her going on the record to say she was working on one which she'd expected to finish in 2011, but then had postponed for reasons. I suppose the political drama has really absorbed her in general, but she's also one of those people who took years to pen down even the first novel.

On note of Seth (yes, yes! Get Equal Music!!!) Have you heard he's writing A Suitable Girl? So A Suitable Boy has become such a hugely acclaimed work over the years that his publishing house finally managed to get him sign a contract somewhere back in 2010, to start this new one, clearly a mirror work version? I'm sort of glad it's not a "sequel" per se ... hopefully it will live up to the first one.

And Anuradha Roy - I haven't heard of, but will look her up in my library catalogue too. That confusion is a story to tell, though! Maybe you should send in a fan mail to Arundhati Roy and tell her that is how honest to God you want to see her new novel on shelves already πŸ˜† I think even for someone with her reputation of being unaffected, this would be something to mark a dent πŸ˜†

LOL, clearly I'm a time traveller and have simply confused the future with the present πŸ˜† It's just a shame I can't remember the name of the book I saw in the future! πŸ˜†

And, arre - I'm not going to fan-girl out on Arundhati Roy like that and freak her out πŸ˜† pata chala she's put back publication of the novel for another year because of some crazy fan πŸ˜†

I didn't know that Seth was writing a "parallel"/companion novel...now I should probably buck up and read the original before the new one is published πŸ˜†
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yayyy new one! =)) Thanks for posting Nurey πŸ€—

Originally posted by: without-fathom

Alright, here goes the MP3 - it contains the RJ's initial seconds, but otherwise...


Adele - Skyfall (Bond theme 2012)

Not uploading to YT because that's obviously going to spell trouble for my channel...

http://www2.zshare.ma/4nvkazhjjhs5

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Posted: 13 years ago
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LMAO@ the last scene of season 1πŸ˜†...Last 3 epis were deffo the best ones of the season.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

LMAO@ the last scene of season 1πŸ˜†...Last 3 epis were deffo the best ones of the season.


Oh wheee! You watched! *claps happy* Are you already out there on GoT posting up? I'm going to quickly wrap up one last doc for the night and be there, if you are... =))


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: without-fathom


Oh wheee! You watched! *claps happy* Are you already out there on GoT posting up? I'm going to quickly wrap up one last doc for the night and be there, if you are... =))




I'll post here only...since neither of them are around in the FC right now.


*Possible Dexter spoilers*


LOL so this show is HEAVY to watch...I couldn't really marathon it that easily also and had to watch the last half in bits and pieces.

The ice-truck killer arc was very well handled over the course of the season...with it's introduction, the effect it has on Dexter, his life, Deb...like a chain reaction one after the other...the revelation that he turned out to be Dexter's BROTHER was deffo a surprise to me...I do have a question as to why Harry didn't save him at that point...did he already know that the second child was mentally disturbed so he kept Dex away from him?

I do like the message they sort of put out by the end of it...what differentiates Dex from his brother even if they have the same basic need to kill based on their traumatic experience with blood and watching their mother massacred...Harry's code basically won out in the end...so deeply ingrained in Dexter ...and no matter how much Dex may say he is incapable of experiencing normal human emotions, they showed him experience those at many points...He obviously cares for Deb a lot...despite being "damaged" inside...he protects the people he loves...be it Deb or Rita later on...and he makes mistakes...which backfire on him in various ways.

The whole bit in the end with a tormented Dex so rattled from his usual composure as he goes about killing his own brother...it was just...eerie to watch...disturbing...but then that is what this show isπŸ˜†...I mean we're basically watching serial killers bonding for god's sakeπŸ˜†

Line of the season has to be Rita saying to Dex in the end..."Who'd have thought she'd fall for a serial killer (referring to Deb)" and Dex goes, "What are the odds" in this ironic si deadpan tone and I was likeπŸ˜†

Dokes being obsessed with and constantly suspicious of Dex is another thing that is interesting to watch in my opinion...especially his one liners at DexπŸ˜†


Oh and the last scene of the season🀣...Dexter imagining all the people secretly thinking of him as a HERO...haha hilarious it was...dark humor indeedπŸ˜†


Edited by AreYaar - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


I'll post here only...since neither of them are around in the FC right now.


*Possible Dexter spoilers*


LOL so this show is HEAVY to watch...I couldn't really marathon it that easily also and had to watch the last half in bits and pieces.

The ice-truck killer arc was very well handled over the course of the season...with it's introduction, the effect it has on Dexter, his life, Deb...like a chain reaction one after the other...the revelation that he turned out to be Dexter's BROTHER was deffo a surprise to me...I do have a question as to why Harry didn't save him at that point...did he already know that the second child was mentally disturbed so he kept Dex away from him?

I do like the message they sort of put out by the end of it...what differentiates Dex from his brother even if they have the same basic need to kill based on their traumatic experience with blood and watching their mother massacred...Harry's code basically won out in the end...so deeply ingrained in Dexter ...and no matter how much Dex may say he is incapable of experiencing normal human emotions, they showed him experience those at many points...He obviously cares for Deb a lot...despite being "damaged" inside...he protects the people he loves...be it Deb or Rita later on...and he makes mistakes...which backfire on him in various ways.

The whole bit in the end with a tormented Dex so rattled from his usual composure as he goes about killing his own brother...it was just...eerie to watch...disturbing...but then that is what this show isπŸ˜†...I mean we're basically watching serial killers bonding for god's sakeπŸ˜†

Line of the season has to be Rita saying to Dex in the end..."Who'd have thought she'd fall for a serial killer (referring to Deb)" and Dex goes, "What are the odds" in this ironic si deadpan tone and I was likeπŸ˜†

Dokes being obsessed with and constantly suspicious of Dex is another thing that is interesting to watch in my opinion...especially his one liners at DexπŸ˜†


Oh and the last scene of the season🀣...Dexter imagining all the people secretly thinking of him as a HERO...haha hilarious it was...dark humor indeedπŸ˜†


I knew you'd like it! The season just escalates into extended climax through the last episodes!

@Rudy - So I think there can be different ways of looking at it. For one, while Dex the baby sits bawling his lungs out, Rudy sits eerily calm for a little boy, and like the grown up Rudy tells Dex, it's as if he's already turned into a monster psyche starting that moment. In Dexter's case, it's a disturbed psyche - one that he battles with in his years of growing up and learns to tame and direct with a code that Harry supervises with. In Rudy's case, it's like the psyche has settled into a chilling hollow for real. The gap that Dex talks about it is literally personified in Rudy's case.

And one could argue that if he was so unaffected, so hollow, and so rid of ABSOLUTELY any sense of emotions/morals, why was he seeking Dex, his brother out? I think from his years of growing up, it's an idea he is possessed with, to reunite with Dex. But in time, especially after he discovers Dex, AND that they are "same people" with the "same demons" his drive to get Dex on his side is out of this idea that they can do this together, without the need of any veils! Again, Dex himself has this perpetual subconscious, a need to find someone he can be himself with. Yet, for Dexter, it is this far fetched idea of normalcy, that he really doesn't expect to find or fulfill, even if he can't stop seeking it out, without even realizing it himself so many times. In Rudy's case, it's about becoming a PAIR of demons. There's no normalcy he seeks - only that he can share his sociopath world with another JUST like him, and incidentally his brother...

Anyway - so either Harry leaves Rudy to be rescued by the next team, because he thinks the boy is damaged enough - as Rudy claims - and he makes an on the spot decision to separate the boys and save at least one, the best he can?

Or - and this speculation is still a mildly holding out speculation for me, although there have been instances which render it more improbable than not - I can't help but get the thought at odd points that Dex might be Harry's own illegitimate son from his mother out of their covert affair... And so he saves Dex? There are a lot of instances to belie this possibility though, including that it would seem likely that Rudy in his long and meticulous years of planning this reunion with Dex would have learned of the fact?

---

@Setting Dex apart from Rudy - They do! And it's amazing to watch how the series and the story segues into series of events that just inevitably get you in a strange place of understanding Dex. Even feeling for him. And it's Harry's code that somehow, regulates the outlet of his bloodlusting tendency, but repeating myself, there is an inner need in him, to seek normalcy, which really sets him apart. There is a scene in the next season that I don't want to mention for spoilers sake, but you realize VERY explicitly there, that despite this strange case of his psyche affected by the incident of his childhood, a part of him REALLY wants to FEEL something. Like normal people. And of course, the whole Harry code and his upbringing is going to go under newer versions of scrutiny in the next season, given the conclusion of this finale - Shumi said this before I'd watched, and I agree, season 2 is like FANTASTIC! You're at the edge of your seat so perpetually through the next season, because things begin to spiral out of control in such an avalanche manner! And the way they wrap up the multiple crazy loose ends... πŸ‘ It's such amazing tight writing through and through! And you're not very far off from one tangent of the matter at least - aka Doakes.

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@final scene πŸ˜† It's a pretty crafty scene in terms of viewer sentiments at that point! πŸ˜† A part of you roots for the brother Dex is to Deb in the last couple episodes. And a part of you knows, the sociopath is hardly past!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: without-fathom


I knew you'd like it! The season just escalates into extended climax through the last episodes!

@Rudy - So I think there can be different ways of looking at it. For one, while Dex the baby sits bawling his lungs out, Rudy sits eerily calm for a little boy, and like the grown up Rudy tells Dex, it's as if he's already turned into a monster psyche starting that moment. In Dexter's case, it's a disturbed psyche - one that he battles with in his years of growing up and learns to tame and direct with a code that Harry supervises with. In Rudy's case, it's like the psyche has settled into a chilling hollow for real. The gap that Dex talks about it is literally personified in Rudy's case.

And one could argue that if he was so unaffected, so hollow, and so rid of ABSOLUTELY any sense of emotions/morals, why was he seeking Dex, his brother out? I think from his years of growing up, it's an idea he is possessed with, to reunite with Dex. But in time, especially after he discovers Dex, AND that they are "same people" with the "same demons" his drive to get Dex on his side is out of this idea that they can do this together, without the need of any veils! Again, Dex himself has this perpetual subconscious, a need to find someone he can be himself with. Yet, for Dexter, it is this far fetched idea of normalcy, that he really doesn't expect to find or fulfill, even if he can't stop seeking it out, without even realizing it himself so many times. In Rudy's case, it's about becoming a PAIR of demons. There's no normalcy he seeks - only that he can share his sociopath world with another JUST like him, and incidentally his brother...

Anyway - so either Harry leaves Rudy to be rescued by the next team, because he thinks the boy is damaged enough - as Rudy claims - and he makes an on the spot decision to separate the boys and save at least one, the best he can?

Or - and this speculation is still a mildly holding out speculation for me, although there have been instances which render it more improbable than not - I can't help but get the thought at odd points that Dex might be Harry's own illegitimate son from his mother out of their covert affair... And so he saves Dex? There are a lot of instances to belie this possibility though, including that it would seem likely that Rudy in his long and meticulous years of planning this reunion with Dex would have learned of the fact?

---

@Setting Dex apart from Rudy - They do! And it's amazing to watch how the series and the story segues into series of events that just inevitably get you in a strange place of understanding Dex. Even feeling for him. And it's Harry's code that somehow, regulates the outlet of his bloodlusting tendency, but repeating myself, there is an inner need in him, to seek normalcy, which really sets him apart. There is a scene in the next season that I don't want to mention for spoilers sake, but you realize VERY explicitly there, that despite this strange case of his psyche affected by the incident of his childhood, a part of him REALLY wants to FEEL something. Like normal people. And of course, the whole Harry code and his upbringing is going to go under newer versions of scrutiny in the next season, given the conclusion of this finale - Shumi said this before I'd watched, and I agree, season 2 is like FANTASTIC! You're at the edge of your seat so perpetually through the next season, because things begin to spiral out of control in such an avalanche manner! And the way they wrap up the multiple crazy loose ends... πŸ‘ It's such amazing tight writing through and through! And you're not very far off from one tangent of the matter at least - aka Doakes.

---
@final scene πŸ˜† It's a pretty crafty scene in terms of viewer sentiments at that point! πŸ˜† A part of you roots for the brother Dex is to Deb in the last couple episodes. And a part of you knows, the sociopath is hardly past!





You guys are so far ahead in terms of watching the series, I do wonder if I should even say anything cuz everyone else has watched far more and have hindsight to keep on talking about more theories etc. etc.



I think they've left it vague enough in terms of why Rudy/Brian wasn't chosen and why Dex was...you really can't credit Harry with such insight that he instantly pegged Dex as the only one who could be saved out of the two...based on your comments on the next seasons, I gather the Rudy angle has been wrapped up for good and they will never explain properly why Harry left Rudy and only picked up Dex.

They make the case that the same incident damaged both kids but they don't explain why one was given more attention and care, the other wasn't...Rudy mentions that he was moved around in foster homes where he probably displayed strange behavior and was then condemned to a mental institution...where ofcourse he had many years to stew in his mental imbalance and plan out his long term escapes or need to reunite with Dexter.

It is obvious that Rudy was more far gone, true...but I'm saying who's to say that a person could make that instant split-second decision like that in KNOWING for SURE? Harry can't be Dex's father cuz there was a whole epi about his biological father...their DNA and everything matched too...yet Harry did indeed feel an instant connection to that crying child and over the years went more than out of his way to protect him too.

Oh I just realized that Rudy was the one to probably kill his biological father too...wow...lol...all done just to ignite Dex's old memories, to get him to come back to his big brother...

The last epi had some interesting convos b/w them...especially the point where Dex says that Rudy kills without reason or remorse...or something to that effect...which basically differentiates him from Dex...cuz Dex follows Harry's code and charts out who's "earned" to die...which basically Rudy had ultimately.

It was a little convenient how Deb woke up only in the instant Dex stopped Rudy from stabbing her...lol...and man she is one NEUROTIC thing...she annoys me in bits too but I liked the portion where she's trying to connect to Dex...how he's her only family and it frustrates her that Dex won't open up with her.

Oh I can imagine season 2 having its share of things spiraling out of control cuz they've got enough open ends left hanging to haunt Dex.

So you're not going to watch the rest of the seasons and directly jump to the seventh one like Maz and Shumi too?
Edited by AreYaar - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Also I have to add that for all his "detachment", that was one PANICKED Dexter in the final epi as he FRANTICALLY searches for Deb and is scared for her life in the hands of Rudy...so in that sense they more than showed that he DOES feel...he's not consciously that aware of it but he softened with Rita in b/w as well...it's not all a part of the "act" as he'd like everyone to believe either.

He compartmentalizes in his own way but he most definitely feels...he's only fooling himself if he thinks he doesn't.

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