Help: Universal Healthcare for Americans

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Posted: 19 years ago
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In the US, a Universal Healthcare system needs to be implemented to ensure that everyone has access to basic medical healthcare.

The problem with our current system in the US is that everyone should have access to healthcare and not everyone does. The rich have healthcare and access to any and every doctor whereas the poor don't have access to even a proper doctor so there is a socioeconomic issue. As a society and ethically, we should want everyone to have healthcare. If I feel that I need healthcare, shouldn't I feel the same about my neighbor and there children.


Arguments against Universal Healthcare include the possibility of US citizens having to pay higher taxes or pay taxes to cover the other person. That other person who doesn't work whom some consider "lazy." We should all be responsible for ourselves and the government should not be responsible for everyone's healthcare. My argument against is going to be ethically based as whom we are we to decide who is lazy and who is not lazy and if we are already paying taxes and insurance premiums then it shouldn't be a problem to cover everyone for those one or two lazy people.

Stock stakeholders who have invested into Bluecross or other medical insurance companies have a lot to loose if we revert to a brand new system. I am hoping that I can argue that what is more important money or the wellbeing of our children.

If you use Canada as an example for universal healthcare, sometimes those patients who have non-urgent medical issues are put on the backburner when it comes to receiving medical care. My argument against that is that in the US those who can't afford health insurance are are skimping on care all together.

Perhaps our medical care will dwindle, but then again those countries who have Universal Healthcare still provide good care. My husband is from Canada and his doctor is his best friend.

What do you think? Looking forward to hearing your answers.

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Prarara thumbnail
Posted: 19 years ago
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My father actually told me this, but if we had Universal Health Care, routine problems and medication could be taken care of-like they are in Canada. However, the waiting lists for major operations like Heart Transplant Surgery in such places are almost up to 2 years. For this reason, patients in Canada have to come to the US to get that taken care of.

With Universal Health Care, routine things can be taken care of, but major things require a less cumbersome process. That said, I am all for a Health Care System that has reforms to it to allow for shorter lists for major operations.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I'm part of the Public Healthcare system in Canada, but I dont like it personally.

Even though we pay taxes for it, the system is inefficient!

Go to them and the first thing they'll prescribe is Tylenol! 🤢

General Physicians here are dissatisfied because they don't get paid enough. They keep calling patients for checkups, etc as more visits = more money for them.

Emergency Room waits are the worst! 5-6 hours waiting times on average unless you are just moments from falling dead.

I prefer a private system supported by health insurance. Maybe I'll pay more money, but at least I'll get some efficient service!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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AS, you are right. If we start paying for these expenses, adminitrative cost will decrease. But will tahe really bring the medical procedure cost down.
for an open heart surgery. it costs almost hundred thousand. No way a normal person will have that much money. Yes may be pick up insurance for that. but to pay from pocket and geting paid by insurance..will be easy to determine. I donot hink it wll be impossible as it can be divided by a genral fig like procedure taking more then couple of grands..Insurance will take. I doubt that people will want to do both.
As per me it will better and cheaper for a regualr healthy person. Mimnimum cost of insurance deduction is about $600.00 per month. Now how many times we go to hospital and copyament is still there.
If the costs are within reach, surely need or insurance will decrease as it is in india
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Yes AS , I totally agreee with you. operating cost of even a small store is very high here. Insurance comapny is the most legal scam.

My little one had UTI infection and poor thing had to stay in hospital for a week. (was mad at doctors for taking two weeks to diagnose and made her suffer so much 😭 ) but after few months I got a copy of bill from insurance in which they denied th epayment because Hospital filed the bill late. Ofcourse it said that they cannot come after me for payment. But I thought it was such a stupid reason for so much money. Not sure what happened after that. But then hospital must have lost the money. unfortunately one of the major hospital in New England was shut down as it was going in Red šŸ˜•
That clearly indicates that some where something is terribly wrong.

To bring cost down, very important to figure out Admin and operating cost of institutions.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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šŸ‘ šŸ‘ wonderful responses! made me think really hard on Wednesday afternoon. šŸ˜› šŸ˜›

thanks!


JP

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