Chaos in Middle-east , who is responsible ?

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All the shake up and unrest in the Middle-east is going on and Iraq is a Mess too.
Now who is responsible for all this ?
Internal forces like religion, terrorists, Talibans, Al Queda ?
Outside forces like USA, Isreal, World economic recession ?

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23 December 2011 Last updated at 01:56 GMT

Iraq: Hashemi blames PM Maliki for Baghdad blasts

Eyewitness Abdallah: "I woke up to a huge impact"

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Iraq's Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi has said Prime Minister Nouri Maliki is to blame for a sudden surge of violence in the country.

Dozens of people were killed in a string of blasts across the capital, Baghdad, on Thursday.

Mr Hashemi, who is subject to an arrest warrant on terror charges, said that Mr Maliki should be focusing on security not "chasing patriotic politicians".

The crisis has sparked fears of renewed sectarian conflict in Iraq.

Mr Maliki is from the majority Shia Arab group while Mr Hashemi is one of the country's most prominent Sunni politicians.

He has been accused of orchestrating terror attacks on officials and security forces, a charge he denies. In response, the main Sunni political bloc, al-Iraqiyya, is blockading parliament and the cabinet, putting the future of the fragile year-old unity government in doubt.

"We should blame Mr Maliki, he started a national crisis and it's not easy to control," Mr Hashemi told the BBC's Arabic Service.

"The Iraqis have a right to be worried."

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Analysis

image of Jonathan Marcus Jonathan Marcus BBC Diplomatic Correspondent

With US forces barely out of the country there is a danger that Iraq's fragile political consensus could unravel along communal lines.

Always an uneasy amalgam of Shia, Sunni and Kurdish groupings, the political arrangements instituted in the wake of the Americans' toppling of Saddam Hussein's regime are now under pressure like never before.

It is hard to know exactly who is behind the current wave of bombings in Baghdad. But in a curious way the violence plays into the hands of all factions seeking to gain from the growing sense of crisis.

Inevitably this crisis is interpreted in some quarters as an effort by the dominant Shia faction to settle scores with its Sunni rivals. Iran is seen by many analysts as operating behind the scenes to bolster the Shia position.

Iran may well be an interested party but this is a genuinely Iraqi crisis fuelled by the diverging political ambitions of Iraqi leaders.

He said the attacks happened because the government was too busy chasing "patriotic politicians" instead of terrorists:

"What happened today shows the deficiency and it's a good evidence for the lack of control over administration of the security brief; because the security services are pointed in the wrong direction."

Mr Hashemi has previously compared the prime minister's behaviour and style of government to that of deposed former leader Saddam Hussein, telling US Foreign Policy magazine Mr Maliki was "very much adamant about running this country in a very bad and tough way".

Thursday's attack were the worst to hit Iraq in months, and came just after the US withdrew its troops, ending nearly nine years of military engagement.

At least 68 people were killed and nearly 200 injured as car and roadside bombs went off in 16 separate locations, mostly Shia areas of the city.

The first 13 bombs hit as people were going to work in the morning - they were followed by other blasts throughout the day.

Officials said schools and kindergartens had been among the targets

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Summer3

All the shake up and unrest in the Middle-east is going on and Iraq is a Mess too.

Now who is responsible for all this ?
Internal forces like religion, terrorists, Talibans, Al Queda ?
Outside forces like USA, Isreal, World economic recession ?

Vinash kale Viparit budhi ☯️
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Perhaps it is karmic for the men being nasty to the ladies?
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Originally posted by: LUCEEFER

Tu Hindustan mein rehta hai?... sharam aani chahiye...

"Vinaash Kaal-e Vibbhreet Buddhi!" ... not "Viparit"... Vibbhreet means confused/locked/closed/indecisive...etc. Viparit means opposite.
As for Summer's question ... the responsibility should belong to USA and Al Qaeda. As for Taliban, they are restricted to Afghanistan. It is necessary to understand that the Taliban are a political party and not a terrorist organization. They are just as terrorist an organization as the BAJRANGI DAL in India ... so lets leave it on you, you select your title for both this parties. Also, Molla Omar was just as respectable as Mr. Narendra Modi in India. So yes, whether you like it or not, both have similar images in the eyes of billions of people around the world (not necessarily the same people, but billions in different sets).
Now coming to Al Qaeda... they are a foolish organization, once fast friends to the US ... they are fighting for mere fight's sake. They know it well... its actually now a franchise brand for various terrorists around the Globe.
USA is a country hungry for oil and money ... a vampire which can go to any extent for it. Earning ofcourse a worthy reputation around the world and increasingly in Europe as I can witness it everyday in my daily life.

Yeh Vibhreet word kahan se dhoond kar le aaya ?😲 Swedish import hai kya 😕
Its Vipreet / viprit/ vipareeta - all over the net check it out if you wish 😃
You got the message thats more than enough
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Coming from a Middle Eastern background, I can tell you that the media has formed and edited the news in such a format whereby the Middle East is percieved as to being 'evil' and 'violent'. But it is known to millions of people that outside forces are the prime reason why the world is currently corrupted today.

The greed for money and oil has killed so many innocent children and widowed many women. In Afghanistan, children at the age of four are roaming around the streets polishing shoes just to earn a cent to obtain a tiny portion of food. If one or two US soldiers are killed than the entire world is angry. But if thousands of Middle Easterners are killed, deprived of a family and a home then it is considered a well deserved punishment? Recently in the news it was revealed that US troops went on a killing spree, shooting down and raiding any random person. As a trophy they would collect the dead people's fingers and place it in a jar.

Do you know the response that act received? Nothing.

I'll show a quote I found somewhere. It truly reflects everything.

Muslims are Terrorist but Americans Army and NATO are Gentlemen?

When America takes 1 million lives in Iraq for oil: Not Terrorism.

When Serbs rape Muslim women in Kosovo/Bosnia: Not Terrorism.

When Russians kill 200,000 Chechens in bombings: Not Terrorism.

When Jews kick out Palestinians and take their land: Not Terrorism.

When Israel kills 10,000 Lebanese civilians due to 2 missing soldiers: Not Terrorism

When Muslims defend themselves : Terrorism

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True.
Frankly there should never be outside interference as far as possible. I hate any country that crosses borders to conquer other weaker nations.
Own people, no matter how bad, cannot be as bad as the outsiders.
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Originally posted by: Summer3

True.
Frankly there should never be outside interference as far as possible. I hate any country that crosses borders to conquer other weaker nations.
Own people, no matter how bad, cannot be as bad as the outsiders.



Exactly. Like I always say: If someone raids into your home, tries to invade your shelter and poses a threat towards your family and loved ones safety then wouldn't you retaliate? Similarly, when an outside force or country invades your country and poses a threat to your homeland, your people and family then will you not defend your country?

One thing that I cannot fathom is the fact that the US had initially invaded Iraq because of their suspicion that Saddam Hussain was hiding weapons of mass destruction (So we were led to believe by the media). Yet when they realized that it was a misconception and hence discovered no such weapons, they continued to stay. What exactly are they still doing in Iraq? Why are so much innocents still dying? Why wont anyone raise those kind of questions!? Why are people so blind!?

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Originally posted by: LUCEEFER

+ When Indian and Pakistani troops kill Kashmiri Children, rape its women, plunder its wealth:Not Terrorism
When Kashmiris rise in retaliation: Terrorism


And when The Naxals demand freedom, they are separatists or Nationalists. Terrorism term is reserved for anyone who is either Muslim or Middle Eastern, or both.
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Originally posted by: _SiinnceMaan_



Exactly. Like I always say: If someone raids into your home, tries to invade your shelter and poses a threat towards your family and loved ones safety then wouldn't you retaliate? Similarly, when an outside force or country invades your country and poses a threat to your homeland, your people and family then will you not defend your country?

One thing that I cannot fathom is the fact that the US had initially invaded Iraq because of their suspicion that Saddam Hussain was hiding weapons of mass destruction (So we were led to believe by the media). Yet when they realized that it was a misconception and hence discovered no such weapons, they continued to stay. What exactly are they still doing in Iraq? Why are so much innocents still dying? Why wont anyone raise those kind of questions!? Why are people so blind!?


Exactly. If someone tries to kill me in my own home, should I simply let them? Nothing was found in Iraq, not so much as weapon of mass destruction test-tube! The same song is now being sung for Iran. Israel openly has enough nuclear war heads to wipe the Middle East of the map but they are free to own them, since they are 'peaceful'. US is the only country which has openly used nuclear bombs (Nagasaki and Hiroshima) in a war and they are also free to plant more war heads? Us has also used depleted Uranium countless times in Iraq during the Gulf war and more recently before they invaded the country and still they harp on and on about nuclear disarmament.

The US spend more on it's military than any nation on the planet. A huge chuck of that goes in to surveillance, intelligence and counter intelligence. Every country has a US backed radio/TV news channel to give out their biased view of the world. Why are so many US citizens ignorant of what goes on in the rest of world? The media manipulation system is intensely planned and carried out with fervor. Fox News in my opinion is a prime example of the brain washing nature of the US media.

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