Did or Didn't They? a brief ramble on Devdas

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Beware of the long post..

(originally posted on the BollyWHAT? forum)

I was watching the song Kahe Chhed Mohe and it hit me: the lyrics of this song are intended to hint to the viewer that there was, indeed, more than hugging going on down by the river in the previous song, More Piya. Bear with me here while I expatiate.

Someone commented on the BollyWHAT? forum that they believed More Piya (MP) to be a highly stylized depiction of what was actually a sexual encounter. Don't remember who it was, but now I agree. Think about it: the Kahe Chhed Mohe (KCM) song, which is the next song after MP, is an exact retelling of the scene we saw in MP with one new detail: Radha, aka Chandramukhi, claims that Krishna "stole away her honor."

This explains a lot. It explains why the song makes Devdas so incredibly uneasy, so agonized that he jumps up at the end and declares that he shouldn't have sent the letter and he's going back home. The song is throwing in his face the crime he committed: sleeping with Paro (an act with very serious social ramifications for her) and then abandoning her. Furthermore, if the version which Chandramukhi sings is the true, "uncensored" version of what happened in MP, it also explains why Devdas flinches when Chandramukhi says "Ish." The first time I watched this film, I thought he reacted so violently because he associates that word with Paro. Now I've watched it again, I realize that a lot of other characters say that word. Chandramukhi, however, says it in a context in which its meaning is "Shame on you!", and Devdas flinches because he DOES feel shame -- not, I argue, because he's simply left Paro, but because of what he did *before* he left her.

Take a look at Kaahe Chhed Mohe's lyrics. There are some other similarities I think are significant, which I comment on below.




Krishna caught hold of me and suddenly
mukh chuum le...he kissed my face...
sar se morii chunarii ga'ii ga'ii ga'iiFrom my head, my scarf fell;
sar se morii chunarii ga'ii sarak sarak sarakmy scarf went slipping from my head,
sarak...slipping...


kaahe chheR chheR moheWhy does he tease me so?


barbas more laaj linhii laaj linhii laaj linhiiBy force he stole away my honor,
barbas more laaj linhiiby force he stole away my honor!
brinda shyaam maanat naahii.n...Krishna will not heed me...
kaa se kahuu.n mai.n apne jiya ki sunat naahii.n maa'iiTo whom can I speak my heart when he does not listen? Oh, mother!
kaahe chheRe chheRe mohe...Why does he tease me?


kar pakaRat chuuRiyaa.n sab kaRkii kaRkii kaRkii...He caught me and all my bangles broke, broke, broke...
o maa'iiO, mother!
brinda shyaam maanat naahii.n...Krishna will not heed me...


Here are some other explicit references, in KCM's lyrics, to the events that happen in More Piya. One: describing Radha's face as "radiant as lightning." In MP, lightning illuminates her face several times. In KCM, we hear of Radha being restrained by Krishna, just as she was in More Piya. She's carrying a pot as well, which Krishna breaks, just as Devdas knocks it from Radha's head.

Now, I know all these are pieces of common Radha-Krishna imagery, but to repeat the identical theme so explicitly, in songs that occur *back-to-back*? Clearly we're intended to see the connection, and treat it as significant (more significant, I mean, than simply another example of the Radha-Krishna analogy applicable to both pairs, Paro-Devdas and Chandramukhi-Devdas).

Another point of note: the lines "kaa se kahuu.n mai.n apne jiya ki sunat naahii.n maa'ii" or "to whom can I speak my heart when he does not listen? Oh, mother!" seem more suited to Paro's voice than to Chandramukhi, particularly the maternal reference, seeing as Paro's mother is her succor during her time of need... Again, though, I'm assuming the choice of identical Radha-Krishna imagery back-to-back is deliberate and pointed. In support of my case, this film does not exactly reek of sloppiness. SLB went out of his way to create what he hoped would be a modern classic.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Interesting! I love how dramatic yet subtle SLB's Devdas was. One of my all time fav. bollywood movies.
Edited by eraser - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Now when I think about it ...this movie is very long and boring .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Interesting.. 😛

so the final conclusion is Paro & Devdas did *what-shall-not-be-named-here-in-the-forum* ?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Am i the only one who did not like Devdas... SRK and Ash hammed and hammed... 🥱

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Maddy-

Am i the only one who did not like Devdas... SRK and Ash hammed and hammed... 🥱




I liked it because of the hamming. 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kal El




I liked it because of the hamming. 😆

And i disliked it bcoz of the hamming... 😆
I love watching SRK in subtle roles... No wonder Swades is one of my fav movies...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kal El



I liked it because of the hamming. 😆


Haha, my thoughts exactly! If SRK would have acted in the subtle manner that he did in Swades, then I wouldnt have enjoyed Devdas as much. The way that Paro and Dev's childhood love and friendship was portrayed was so beautiful. It was supposed to be a dramatic movie so I guess the hamming was expected (especially from Shahrukh hehe).

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Maddy-

Am i the only one who did not like Devdas... SRK and Ash hammed and hammed... 🥱


I had no idea what real entertainment until recently😆
then I didnt mind it but now I cant stand a scene
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hah Eraser..
Your reason for liking Devdas is right here "The way that Paro and Dev's childhood love and friendship was portrayed was so beautiful." Replace SRK with Anu Kapoor and you still would have liked it 😉.
ANy way, SRK in Devdas was like a Parkinson's patient.. quivering lips, trembling eyes, bobbing head, shaking hands.. all the muscles in his body got a good work-out during the shooting of this movie. This is not HAM.. it's a full suckling pig.
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