Veg. and Non-veg.

I don't know if this topic has been discussed earlier. But I would like to get views from you, friends.

Many people are veg. and I would like them to put their thoughts for abstaining themselves from non-veg food. Cow is considered sacred among Hindus(which of cousre I don't touch not because I am a Hindu but for my own principle), that's apprehendable. But what's wrong with other non-veg foods like fish, mutton, chicken, sea-food, etc.

I am a non-veg. I grew up eating fish almost daily, love chicken, mutton, seafood. It would be very hard for me to survive without non-veg. I tried not to take any non-veg for a month or so, but then could not resist. May be my will power is not that strong or may be I was really missing something in life.

This topic is not to hurt someone's belief, just to have a friendly discussion.

Very good discussion topic pradarshak ( You sing well too 😛 )

I will come back on this issue.

yea..this topic has been discussed b4...but a looong time ago...and there r new ppl here whose opinions we would love 2 hear...and hopefully this 1 will b more peaceful and friendly than the other 1...i understand tht 4 some being veg or non-veg is a matter of religion and they really dont decide themselves but have their religion decide 4 thm..i respect thm and all of u shud as well...and they shud respect non-veg ppl jus the same....this is a discussion on the pros and cons of being veg or non-veg so lets keep all sorts of religious points away from here...and please REFRAIN from alluding to ANY religion in even the SLIGHTEST way...here at india forums, we respect all religions and treat them equally

I agree with Javs... This is a sensitive religious topic which needs to be handled with care.. i know the mods and viewbies are keeping a close watch .. but its always better to refrain making hurtful comments on anyone... i.e. Respect others to have respect...😊

Ohh well .. returning to the pros and cons of Veg or non-veg..Being a Veg can be partial or not e.g. just not to eat four legged animals... and might consume white meat (birds, chicken,etc)... Well if a person just keeps to be a veg for not consuming the meat of killed animals is something an ecological cause... From one of the Doctors in a TV debate i heard him saying that meat is an important part of human's diet.. Protein may be substituted from the pulses but there are some other elements which only meat is able to provide.. But some doctors say that vegetables detox ur skin and ur intestine is made for veggies consumption... they serve as food and medicine too if not cooked too much or eaten raw...

Whereas in non-veg u can eat anything without restrictions and offer a relaxed balance diet... m not saying that being a veg u can't have a balance diet but in such a case u have to be more careful on ur eating ..

And yes... this can be a choice made by following a Religion.. And its an Individual's choice after all 😊

I am a non-veg, but more and more I am gearing towards vegetarian diet. It's not due to religious reasons, but due to a conversation I had with my friend. I was moved by this one conversation. I asked him," why don't you eat meat, it's a good source of protein." He said ," I get all of my proteins from my diet, but the reason I turn vegetarian is because when I can't create a life, I don't have the right to kill it." In response I told him ," But it's a life cycle, lion eats other smaller animals to fulfill its diet and so do other animals." Why do we need to eat meat? Do we eat it for pleasure...or do we have a beast inside us ..always craving for taste of flesh? How are we different from all the other animals? Why do we call ourselves civilized?
We think chicken or cow by its nature is a senseless or an idiot animal. I don't know how many of us think about the pain that these anilmals went through before dying. We only used dying in human context, I think we are more used to saying ,chicken was processed or beef was processed....may be it's the way we can really enjoy that sensual taste of lean chicken strips.
Then I wonder why we get shocked over tribes who use cannibalism. Why should humans get spared? If we keep the right to eat other animals, then other animals keep the same right! Why disappoint a white shark from eating a human...may be his kids are waiting for fresh human flesh meal for the dinner as well.
Since we are civilized( in human sense) I guess human life is worth more than a chicken's life. Since there is no daddy chicken making ends meet for its family..it's okay to kill him.
I was listening to a Documentary a while back. The commentator says that we don't realize that when we are eating meat we are actaully also eating all the negative energy cooking with that chicken or Beef or fish. The way they prepare Beef is horrible. The cattles that are supposed to be used for meat are put in these small spaces where they can't move much. Caretaker feeds them day and night and since cattle can't move, it becomes fatter and the skin becomes tighter. When they are butured, they line them up. so the next cattle know her end is coming. Animals have instincts too..these are the same instincts that make them run from their predator. While they are waiting for their killing, they do develop imbalance of emotions such as fear. They get imbalance of hormones and then this is the meat that a common man eats. THis is more of a philosophical explanation of increased imbalance of emotions in human kind.
If we think that sacrifice of a goat or other animal is unnescessary, then how is it okay to eat their meat?
God has provided human beings with plenty of plants...why not satisfy your hunger with them? I know this is a very hot topic of meat lovers...they always say ," well plants breath too, why kill them too?

You guys remember that Oscar nominated movie where every time the main character cooked a meal, her emotions got into the meals through her tears. If she was sad, people who ate her meal also felt sad and starte dto cry. Just an idea....If we really appreciated that movie then it can be true. we just don't eat the chicken, or the goat or the fish, we actually eat their emotions as well.

im am also non veg im muslim its based on religion ...i dont know completely but i saw in indian movies and observe that most hindus dont like to eat meat ...yeah apnay apay religion ki baat hai ....ya phir ppl ki thinking ki and waisay bhi doosroon ko iss baat say koi gharaz nahin hona chahyea kay kon kia khata hai yeah insaan ki apni marzi per depend kerta hai
iss topic ka relation religion say too hai mager yeah itna annoying topic nahin balkay interesting ha... 😃

Originally posted by: Dazlingflower

I am a non-veg, but more and more I am gearing towards vegetarian diet. It's not due to religious reasons, but due to a conversation I had with my friend. I was moved by this one conversation. I asked him," why don't you eat meat, it's a good source of protein." He said ," I get all of my proteins from my diet, but the reason I turn vegetarian is because when I can't create a life, I don't have the right to kill it." In response I told him ," But it's a life cycle, lion eats other smaller animals to fulfill its diet and so do other animals." Why do we need to eat meat? Do we eat it for pleasure...or do we have a beast inside us ..always craving for taste of flesh? How are we different from all the other animals? Why do we call ourselves civilized?
We think chicken or cow by its nature is a senseless or an idiot animal. I don't know how many of us think about the pain that these anilmals went through before dying. We only used dying in human context, I think we are more used to saying ,chicken was processed or beef was processed....may be it's the way we can really enjoy that sensual taste of lean chicken strips.
Then I wonder why we get shocked over tribes who use cannibalism. Why should humans get spared? If we keep the right to eat other animals, then other animals keep the same right! Why disappoint a white shark from eating a human...may be his kids are waiting for fresh human flesh meal for the dinner as well.
Since we are civilized( in human sense) I guess human life is worth more than a chicken's life. Since there is no daddy chicken making ends meet for its family..it's okay to kill him.
I was listening to a Documentary a while back. The commentator says that we don't realize that when we are eating meat we are actaully also eating all the negative energy cooking with that chicken or Beef or fish. The way they prepare Beef is horrible. The cattles that are supposed to be used for meat are put in these small spaces where they can't move much. Caretaker feeds them day and night and since cattle can't move, it becomes fatter and the skin becomes tighter. When they are butured, they line them up. so the next cattle know her end is coming. Animals have instincts too..these are the same instincts that make them run from their predator. While they are waiting for their killing, they do develop imbalance of emotions such as fear. They get imbalance of hormones and then this is the meat that a common man eats. THis is more of a philosophical explanation of increased imbalance of emotions in human kind.
If we think that sacrifice of a goat or other animal is unnescessary, then how is it okay to eat their meat?
God has provided human beings with plenty of plants...why not satisfy your hunger with them? I know this is a very hot topic of meat lovers...they always say ," well plants breath too, why kill them too?

You guys remember that Oscar nominated movie where every time the main character cooked a meal, her emotions got into the meals through her tears. If she was sad, people who ate her meal also felt sad and starte dto cry. Just an idea....If we really appreciated that movie then it can be true. we just don't eat the chicken, or the goat or the fish, we actually eat their emotions as well.

WOWWWW!!!!!....So well written👏👏👏

I'm a very staunch vegetarian.....I even dont take garlic, mushrooms and eggs.....I'm not a non-vegetarian because its forbidden in my caste...I'm a brahmin, and am not supposed to consume meat or flesh of any sort!!I have been brought up without being fed non veg,and now even if anyone offers me, I woudl refuse to take it...I feel nauseated by the smell, so I cant eat with my friends who eat meat!

And also being an animal lover is an incentive.You have explained the trauma and the suffering inflicted on the animals beautifully.👏So not going to add more about that

As for eating a balanced diet,I think most of the required proteins is available in vegetarian substitutes like soya milk etc...And many are going the vegetarian way these days as apparently the meat of some anuimals causes diseases in the long run(correct me if I'm wrong...I vaguely remember reading something like this sometime back)

i think i have responded to a similar topic before here.
so i will repeat myself.... all that is being said here is true and all the talk of negative energy associated with meat and fish makes sense as well. when we have the choice it is best to opt for vegetarian food...

but the food that has been eaten by people in a region usually depended on the local produce. in fact it is only now that vegetables and green are available in supermarkets all over the world and all year round. i have been to some small islands close ours in the indian ocean where vegetables are still scarce. people live on the produce that the sea delivers.

our tongue tends to prefer the food that our mother fed us when we are young....it doesn't matter whether it is raw fish or boiled potatoes. it is this food that we will very likely feed our kids too. changing habits is not easy especially when they come along with the nostalgia of our childhood.

so when people eat meat it cannot be something they did after putting a lot of thought into. now as science makes progress and the words gets aroung more easily people are starting to consider change...

Here is some excerpt from the work of one of our greatest Indian Scientist SIR JC BOSE, which leads to the idea that plants like living animals do respond to shock.

By about the end of the 19th century, the interests of Bose turned away from electromagnetic waves to response phenomena in plants; this included studies of the effects of electromagnetic radiation on plants, a topical field today. Bose demonstrated that plant tissues under different kinds of stimuli like mechanical, application of heat, electric shock, chemicals and drugs, produce electric response similar to that produced by animal tissues. He also tried to demonstrate that similar electric response to stimulation could be noticed in certain inorganic systems. For his investigations Bose invented several novel and highly sensitive instruments. Among these the most important one was the Crescograph -an instrument for measuring the growth of a plant. It could record a growth as small as 1/100,000 inch per second. Bose's experiments on plants were mostly performed on Minosa pudica and Desmondium gyrans (Indian Telegraph plant). In all his investigations Bose attempted to offer original interpretations. He attempted to devise models whichwere illustrative of physical basis of memory. His findings subsequently influenced subjects like physiology, chronobiology, cybernetics, medicine and agriculture .

So, the only difference I can see that plants can't express, have no emotions and there is no sign of blood. They are also a part of the living world. Yes, here is a lot of hue and cry when a human gets killed by another animal. The truth is that we all know "Survival of the fittest." We, human beings are the most efficient and intelligent creature. So, we are more concerned about protecting our own species. And we have a wide variety of choice. We have chosen to eat something that would never become extinct and also we be a part of the food chain. If God would have liked us to be herbivorous then he would have made our digestive system similar to that of a cow or a goat, unable to digest non-veg food.

If someone is a vegetarian, and loves the way she/he is - no problem with that. But that does not mean one should look down upon a non-vegetarian.

There are good points of being a non-veg.,

It has ample source of protein.

It gives lot of strength( I hope one can see why India lacks in fast-bowlers and fails in other sports) and good health.

Balance the ecological food chain.

Pradarshak....U know.. i was going to post EXACTLY the same facts abt veg and non-veg!!!!😕😆

New studies show that plants do have emotions to their gardeners!!! They act funny, naughtyly and cry too!!😲.. ( i really don't know how they show that.. but i read it somewhere on the net... !!) So by cutting plants we hurt them too... the rest.. pradarshak said it all!!👏