27th June - Meri Mann/Atma Kahi Door Hai (Kes-Gul) - Page 3

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Great post as always Lennie 😃 Thanks


Though I understand where Gulaal is coming from and her disgust with the turn of events, I also felt bad that Kesar's feelings were so misunderstood by her even though somewhere she knows that her Kesar cannot her view her like that. At the same time, Kesar needs to understand the responsibilities that come with being a husband. Gulaal knows way deep down that Kesar has not viewed her like that, but what he has for the last few days, its all added to her way of thinking and lets not forget anger and hurt she has on top of that, and Kesar feelings yes are misunderstood but i think it was needed for him to finally get it, and what it is coming out as even though its not but to Gulaal its like that and for him to understand it, Gulaal hit the spot when she says you want a Patni dont you, here i am etc, this your want and need and so on, and like you say Kesar need to understand the responsibilities that come as a hubby and also as person, a son and so on, which believe it or not - the way ppl see him and his acts, its no wonder they see him as that. Kesar needs to start emerging a mature man as well... grow in himself and understand things like love, pati, Gulaal and so on

If he thinks claiming Gulaal as his wife now is the same as he did 10 years ago then he's going down the wrong route. He's grown up now! He can't just keep her in the house with the 'wife' tag. She isn't a possession that he can just have (though I know he doesn't view her like that). Exactly, he needs to start realising this, he needs to start asking himself questions, he always asking others questions, he needs to aks himself what is it that he sees in this relation as pati/patni does he know what it entails and so on, and understand it...
You know the word possession, i feel that is apt for Gulaal today coz this is what she actually feel like today and coming back here, like she was forced to...

I want to write more but the heat is killing my brain! I hate the heat as well

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Posted: 14 years ago
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nicepost lennie ! i loved the scene but dont agree the allegation that gulaal say it doesnt effect u wen ur love is present or not ...no it do... even gulaal obssessive as kesar... gulaal knows vasant is no more but still she is obessessd with his snaps she carries it everywhere in her room in her maayka in kesar's room wonder what will gulaal do without his snaps. ...jokes apart... if vasant was alive will she able manage to live without him...its easy for the person to live without a dead person remembering his sweet memories but is it possible to live without a person who is alive ...leaving in approchable distance ..whom u can see in the temple , in streets in the relative house ...?????
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07

nicepost lennie ! i loved the scene but dont agree the allegation that gulaal say it doesnt effect u wen ur love is present or not ...no it do... even gulaal obssessive as kesar... gulaal knows vasant is no more but still she is obessessd with his snaps she carries it everywhere in her room in her maayka in kesar's room wonder what will gulaal do without his snaps. ...jokes apart... if vasant was alive will she able manage to live without him...its easy for the person to live without a dead person remembering his sweet memories but is it possible to live without a person who is alive ...leaving in approchable distance ..whom u can see in the temple , in streets in the relative house ...?????

What Gulaal meant in love it doesnt matter if the person is far or near, thats love - Love is not measured by time or whatever
It does make a difference if a person is a alive or not, but you dont go about it the way Kesar has (which was cleverly highlighted by the writers and showing how he is and he has alot of growing up to do), as in forcing it and all that
Today Gulaal loves Vasant the way she did before, probably even more - coz thats love, thats not obsessive as such, and yes it does affect you coz that person is dead and no more, but her love never lessened even today - and thats Love
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lennie

What Gulaal meant in love it doesnt matter if the person is far or near, thats love - Love is not measured by time or whatever

It does make a difference if a person is a alive or not, but you dont go about it the way Kesar has (which was cleverly highlighted by the writers and showing how he is and he has alot of growing up to do), as in forcing it and all that
Today Gulaal loves Vasant the way she did before, probably even more - coz thats love, thats not obsessive as such, and yes it does affect you coz that person is dead and no more, but her love never lessened even today - and thats Love

its about allegation gulaal put forward...the basic difference between gulaal and kesar love is that vasant is dead but gulaal is alive...u can console your heart your loved one can never return cherishing his memory ...still loving him with the same intensity...but how can u console your heart wen the person is infront of u ...how can u manage to live without him wen there is hope she can return wen condition favour u...he is not pyscho lover stalking her everywhere he is her husband who has got right to live with her bit pushy but thats what kesar and gulaal are alwys pushy and extremist for each other ..even gulaal planned to run away with vasant as she cant live without him...she even didnt care her own family ...now things have changed kesar is in her place ...he loves her deeply... he is extremist ...but he loves her equally she was 10 years away from him he still loved her...he was angry with gulaal still he loved her...she hide D crime still he loved him ...she betrayed him still he loved her...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Yes, his love is deep but the are certain questions that this confrontation raised which i JZee said in her topic and so on... this is for Kesar to realise what he actually wants and how to love a wife and also to understand himself and emerge and built his maturity, thats why i say that Kesar has got everything in him to be so much more, coz like you have mentioned he has endured all that and he still loves her and that love grew as years went by...
And also for Gulaal to realise that Kesar's love is pure, however much she doesnt think it is and is just attachment and so on... and also if you see Gulaal place in this house has changed, as she doesnt see her herself attached to this house and so on...
I think JZee's post basically says everything i wanted to say and see what i saw in the scene and also how it will take the track forward and so on...

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