Siddath......the unbalanced man! - Page 2

Originally posted by: shasha74

I've just watched 2 unrelated clips of CCBM- 1. when Siddath is about to tell the truth about Nivedita on his wedding day and 2. when everyone is forcing Nivi to see a psychiatrist in both scenes something comes out clear with Siddath.......

HE NEVER THERE TO STAND FOR NIVEDITA.

When he allowed Jawahar to accuse Kershav it can be put down to the plot line however in these 2 separate parts I find it surprising for someone who proclaims to love Nivi so much that on both occasions he kept quiet even knowing the truth;

1. the wedding night- Siddath KNEW Nivi didn't love Viren and it was a natak but STILL didn't say anything. Even if you say that he kept quiet for Viren sake that only holds true IF Nivi loved Viren too, but Siddath KNEW she did not.

[wedding night Sid couldn't say anything b'cos Nivi herself was adamant on marrying his brother for the sake of Divya..come what may...his responding would not have made any difference in Nivi's stand for sure....

Here Sid had set out to break the marriage but Nivi herself knew that the best way to avoid this was to have the marriage natak with Viren..hence nivi did the natak in front of sid which later on became realty...viren supported it to achieve his motives...so who is good here..no one..and how can u justify nivren unity here.?..nivi marrying viren due to helpless ness and viren marrying her for achieving his motives ...]

2. the psychiatrist day- Siddath knew that Nivi was incapable of harming Dada Saab she loved him as much if not more as everyone else. And if she had wanted to harm him she had ample opportunities to do so before then which would've been a lot easier. However AGAIN Siddath said nothing when Dadi and Chanchal were forcing her out of the house and her distress was clearly see by him.
[Now , sid tried a lot to avoid this scenario as well..he was the only person who suggested that all should wait for Viren...he always wanted the wellbeing of Nivi...at that point of time he was not aware of what was happening with Nivi and why she had all the hallucinations..

Now the good guy viren who supported her in front of all in not going to psychiatrist..well after making Nivi almost mad in front of all and then coming to save her after the whole plan was executed in itself is a crime...he would have very well created a mental trauma for Nivi..Viren is also an educated man isn't he?Even Nivi's father after hearing her cries was not at all co-operative...then don't expect anyone else to be.]

Again even if he thought it was right for Nivi to see a psychiatrist, he's an educated man and would surely know it would be best to take in a calm state and with her cooperation then in the state she was, but again Siddath did nothing.

This bothers me for if someone claims to love you to then that claim has to be backed up with knowledge of that person and also how best to deal with them.

If that was it I would've left it BUT what gets to me in BOTH clips is that as much as Siddath ABSENCE of his love/defense for Nivi can be noticed is the fact in both clips the only time he gets ANGRY and DEFENDS/ATTACKS is against what Viren say about the SOOD FAMILY.

[there are several instances where Sid has genuinely supported nivi and even viren in spite of all what has happened..if he breaks the ice he would have a major rift going on between the 2 families as well as will break the heart of so many people in the family...even if he opens up now abt his affair with Nivi , Nivi will never accept it in front of all for the sake of Divya and Sid knows it...that was the case earlier as well....Also we don't know how Viren's real retorts and outbursts will turn out to be unless he stops his current acting mode...from the time he came he has been acting in front of all..the genuine reactions and outbursts are yet to come.

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In the wedding scene it is not until Viren pushes Chanchal hand and stops Jawahar slap THEN Siddath comes to alive and tells Viren off for NOT SPEAKING TO HIS ELDERS PROBABLY! (ok he does when so much has been said and Viren has proven a true aashiq ask 'Putal do you know what your doing?' Dah too little-too late) AND Siddath SHOUTS at Nivi for not laying there like a doormat and have Dadi step all over her on hearing the truth!

[Ya this part , there was a mistake on Sid's part in shouting at Nivi, but the outburst is just one thing..we also do get angry and retort to our dear ones..that doesn't mean that we hate them...actually it's b'cos we are very much attached to them....he never took tried to take revenge of Nivi or plot behind her back later ... ]

In the other scene the only time AGAIN Siddath shows any emotion is not when Nivi is dragged out t but when Viren points out that someone in the Family is doing it and THEN Siddath burst out and starts shouting the Sood innocence at Viren!

[there's no harm in supporting ones family;i mean it's not a sin...after all it's your family members who take all the pain to bring you up...however , .Sid's trust for his family has already proven him wrong through jawahar's doings against Keshav..so he should have smelled something fishy..but in his mind, sid is never accepting the fact that his family members could plan a plot inside the house itself..sid is wrong here...soon he'll learn that as well...]

As much as Siddath 'loved' Nivi it was never as much as his love for his Family and if they had married he would've been a good husband BUT he wouldn't of been able to find a BALANCE between his Family and Nivi. I suppose Nivi only consolation would've of been she would've had a mother in-law that understood but no matter how lovely a rose smells the pricks of the thrones is bloody painful.

[sid's love and respect for his family as well as nivi's sacrificing nature..both have been contributing factors in the sid-putul breakup ..with both these nature of theirs and the characters of the other members in the family such as CC,jawahar,hemlata etc...nothing would have ever worked right for them]

Originally posted by: shasha74

I've just watched 2 unrelated clips of CCBM- 1. when Siddath is about to tell the truth about Nivedita on his wedding day and 2. when everyone is forcing Nivi to see a psychiatrist in both scenes something comes out clear with Siddath.......

HE NEVER THERE TO STAND FOR NIVEDITA.

When he allowed Jawahar to accuse Kershav it can be put down to the plot line however in these 2 separate parts I find it surprising for someone who proclaims to love Nivi so much that on both occasions he kept quiet even knowing the truth;

1. the wedding night- Siddath KNEW Nivi didn't love Viren and it was a natak but STILL didn't say anything. Even if you say that he kept quiet for Viren sake that only holds true IF Nivi loved Viren too, but Siddath KNEW she did not.

[wedding night Sid couldn't say anything b'cos Nivi herself was adamant on marrying his brother for the sake of Divya..come what may...his responding would not have made any difference in Nivi's stand for sure....

Here Sid had set out to break the marriage but Nivi herself knew that the best way to avoid this was to have the marriage natak with Viren..hence nivi did the natak in front of sid which later on became realty...viren supported it to achieve his motives...so who is good here..no one..and how can u justify nivren unity here.?..nivi marrying viren due to helpless ness and viren marrying her for achieving his motives ...]

Siddath didn't even TRY to stop any of the marriages; the problem here with Siddath was that he KNEW the truth; KNEW that Nivi was still in love with him, KNEW that the NivRen at this point was a natak and KNEW that HE did not love Divya. What's the point of knowing all this but NOT having the ABILITY to do something about the situation?

And i don't justify NivRen unity here accept that bot Nivi and Viren KNEW what they wanted and went for it AGAINST everyone. Siddath WAS ready to break his marriage to Divya at that point why didn't he just continue and tell the truth about what he KNEW to be true; that he and Nivedita still loved each other?

But instead Siddath allowed others to dictate terms and not once did he speak to Viren directly with regards to why this sudden marriage to Nivi? Not once did he pull Viren aside and ask him 'do you really Nivi? Do you know the truth about US?' He was willing to let his beloved younger brother marry a girl who he himself had a past with, which EVERYONE knew about in the Family-without warning him? That to me isn't brotherly love and the same goes for what Nivi did too- you tell the truth and eave it to others to choose, for the truth has a way of coming out and it's a bigger betrayal then.

2. the psychiatrist day- Siddath knew that Nivi was incapable of harming Dada Saab she loved him as much if not more as everyone else. And if she had wanted to harm him she had ample opportunities to do so before then which would've been a lot easier. However AGAIN Siddath said nothing when Dadi and Chanchal were forcing her out of the house and her distress was clearly see by him.
[Now , sid tried a lot to avoid this scenario as well..he was the only person who suggested that all should wait for Viren...he always wanted the wellbeing of Nivi...at that point of time he was not aware of what was happening with Nivi and why she had all the hallucinations..

Now the good guy viren who supported her in front of all in not going to psychiatrist..well after making Nivi almost mad in front of all and then coming to save her after the whole plan was executed in itself is a crime...he would have very well created a mental trauma for Nivi..Viren is also an educated man isn't he?Even Nivi's father after hearing her cries was not at all co-operative...then don't expect anyone else to be.]

Again this is not about Viren or Nivi and at this point we didn't know Viren was behind all this. my question is that Siddath can be forceful with his Family at we've seen when Jawhar and the cheques. He is Dada Saab stand-in while he's ill, do you think Dada Saab would've allowed Nivi to be treated in this manner? No of course not.

And this is why i say he's 'unbalanced' as the Elder male he could've been forceful and said 'NO. Until Viren comes Nivi is going no where.' But he's shown as helpless; you cannot be strong only in business and in Family life leave the responsibilities to someone else ESPECIALLY when you know whats happening is WRONG.

Again even if he thought it was right for Nivi to see a psychiatrist, he's an educated man and would surely know it would be best to take in a calm state and with her cooperation then in the state she was, but again Siddath did nothing.

This bothers me for if someone claims to love you to then that claim has to be backed up with knowledge of that person and also how best to deal with them.

If that was it I would've left it BUT what gets to me in BOTH clips is that as much as Siddath ABSENCE of his love/defense for Nivi can be noticed is the fact in both clips the only time he gets ANGRY and DEFENDS/ATTACKS is against what Viren say about the SOOD FAMILY.

[there are several instances where Sid has genuinely supported nivi and even viren in spite of all what has happened..if he breaks the ice he would have a major rift going on between the 2 families as well as will break the heart of so many people in the family...even if he opens up now abt his affair with Nivi , Nivi will never accept it in front of all for the sake of Divya and Sid knows it...that was the case earlier as well....Also we don't know how Viren's real retorts and outbursts will turn out to be unless he stops his current acting mode...from the time he came he has been acting in front of all..the genuine reactions and outbursts are yet to come.

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I agree he has been supportive to NivRen I don't agree with the fact that if he tells the truth Nivi will deny it. Divya is already suspicious and at least knowing the truth and that its OVER will ease the tensions that not knowing has caused. Nivi has 'fallen in love' with Viren, we can see how protective she is with him and Viren has shown his 'love' for all to see-all Divya needs to see is the couch gone and she'll know that what was is over. However Siddath needs to be more convincing that Nivi was his past and Divya his future.

In the wedding scene it is not until Viren pushes Chanchal hand and stops Jawahar slap THEN Siddath comes to alive and tells Viren off for NOT SPEAKING TO HIS ELDERS PROBABLY! (ok he does when so much has been said and Viren has proven a true aashiq ask 'Putal do you know what your doing?' Dah too little-too late) AND Siddath SHOUTS at Nivi for not laying there like a doormat and have Dadi step all over her on hearing the truth!

[Ya this part , there was a mistake on Sid's part in shouting at Nivi, but the outburst is just one thing..we also do get angry and retort to our dear ones..that doesn't mean that we hate them...actually it's b'cos we are very much attached to them....he never took tried to take revenge of Nivi or plot behind her back later ... ]

But the point was that at that moment and time it was so crucial for Siddath to stay focused and calm. Niv was right in what she said after been attacked by YD and rather then get drawn in Siddath should of moved the topic to what was important-stopping his marriage and Nivi. Again i was trying to show that Siddath cannot balance between his Family and what is the truth-he favored Sood over Nivi, Family over truth.

In the other scene the only time AGAIN Siddath shows any emotion is not when Nivi is dragged out t but when Viren points out that someone in the Family is doing it and THEN Siddath burst out and starts shouting the Sood innocence at Viren!

[there's no harm in supporting ones family;i mean it's not a sin...after all it's your family members who take all the pain to bring you up...however , .Sid's trust for his family has already proven him wrong through jawahar's doings against Keshav..so he should have smelled something fishy..but in his mind, sid is never accepting the fact that his family members could plan a plot inside the house itself..sid is wrong here...soon he'll learn that as well...]

Yet on Nivi suspicions on him, Siddath has looked and found the proof against Viren and wants to tell Nivi but knowing the truth about NivRen on the wedding night he kept quiet? I agree we do trust our Family and there is absolutely nothing wrong but when you have PROOF that contradicts then its WRONG to stay quiet especially if others will suffer because you did, as is the case of Divya and Nivi.

As much as Siddath 'loved' Nivi it was never as much as his love for his Family and if they had married he would've been a good husband BUT he wouldn't of been able to find a BALANCE between his Family and Nivi. I suppose Nivi only consolation would've of been she would've had a mother in-law that understood but no matter how lovely a rose smells the pricks of the thrones is bloody painful.

[sid's love and respect for his family as well as nivi's sacrificing nature..both have been contributing factors in the sid-putul breakup ..with both these nature of theirs and the characters of the other members in the family such as CC,jawahar,hemlata etc...nothing would have ever worked right for them]

I don't agree that the natures of everyone would be the contributing factor in nothing working out between them but that Siddath inability to stand up for Nivi in front of everone would've just of made the marriage a bed of roses WITH thrones instead what could've been just a lovely Bed of Roses