Everyone Read This!! -Where are my CIVIL rights?-

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Disclaimer: If you wanna post, have some educated come backs and talk real deal politics with me, otherwise I don't care to listen to he loves her and etc. Because this post has to do with civil rights and NOTHING else. Also this post doesn't endorse Pratigya as a queen of great or sugar coats her as perfect, but still speaks on behalf of her.

OMG.
i just have to say this...
for all you saying that Krishna's love is pure and his intentions are good but they come off as wrong...ok so be it. I even accept that.
I accept all his intentions are pure and he loves her a lot.

BUT some of these statements don't sound like they are from people in the 21st century, or are coming from people for whom the age of enlightenment and reason never happened? What happened to basic CIVIL rights. Like Locke and Rousseau and Voltaire spoke of?

It is her RIGHT not to love Krishna...
It is her RIGHT to be angry...
It is her RIGHT to yell at him

And

It is NOT HIS RIGHT to take away someone's freedom of mobility by stalking her.
It is NOT HIS RIGHT to take away the freedom of privacy by walking in to her family affairs
It is NOT HIS RIGHT to take away her right to speak the truth, or limit her freedom of expression because she is a female.

Let us SPEAK OF BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS! Because someone is trying their hardest to love you doesn't mean YOU HAVE TO respond.

If you are married to someone DOESN'T MEAN you have to eventually give in to them and just settle with falling in love.

We are in the modern age, NO means NO. NO mean I DO NOT WANT TO FALL IN LOVE WITH YOU.

And every person's civil freedoms should be respected.
Okay so Pratigya didn't speak after the 2nd rape attempt...so WHAT?! does that mean we can get angry at her and Krishna's act is suddenly justified. Do you realize this is happening to her the SECOND time...most women when that happens, are afraid next time he may just follow through on his threat and rape her, so they try to keep quiet and follow the plan, hence why she was like "what should we do at the pooja?"

He hit her (and yes not very hard, but he threw her and pulled her hair...and i am sure many of you women supporting him wouldn't be like oh ok well at least he didn't hurt me too bad and so i will just forgive him.) ABUSE IS ABUSE.

NOBODY has the right to touch somebody else without their permission (husband or not) in today's democratic society.

We are speaking about civil RIGHTS people...civil rights, which are being taken away here. It doesn't matter if she instigated him, it doesn't matter how much he loves her...

IF SHE SAYS NO...its her right and he should back off.

Thats ALL.


A poem about civil rights based on the very strong Joan of Arc- basically means...I HAVE THE RIGHT to do what I want to do, I HAVE the right to say what I wanna say and believe what I wanna believe.


Today, May 30th, Joan
of Arc was burned.
She was 19 and
when she died
a man saw white doves
fly from her mouth.
Joan was born in 1512
between Lorraine
and Champagne. Joan
was raised on legends.
Merlin said France would be
lost by a woman and saved
by a virgin. Joan was
not an adventurous girl, not
a tomboy, but very dreamy,
good, stay-at-home,
the baby of the family.
Joan never got her period.
Reprinted from Poems from the Women's Movement,
edited by Honor Moore.
American Poets Project 28 (Library of America, 2009),
pages 201'202.
Copyright 1982 by Eileen Myles.
Reprinted by permission of the author. Originally published
in Sappho's Boat (Little Caesar Press, 1982).
She heard these voices
in the bells, she saw angels
in colored glass. She believed
the sun moved around
the earth because that's
what she saw. She believed
God wanted Charles VII
to be King of France
because that's what Michael,
Catherine & Margaret told
her when she listened to
the bells. Her father
said he'd drown her
if she didn't stop this
nonsense.
She was 19 years old
when they burned her body in the middle of town
while she was still alive. A white dove
came out of her mouth as she died.
Four hundred and thirty-one years ago today.
A dove leaped right out of her mouth.



ELLA'S SONG
(Lyrics and music by Bernice Johnson Reagon
Sung by Sweet Honey in the Rock)
    We who believe in freedom cannot rest
    We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes

    Until the killing of black men, black mothers' sons
    Is as important as the killing of white men, white mothers' sons

    That which touches me most is that I had a chance to work with people
    Passing on to others that which was passed on to me

    To me young people come first, they have the courage where we fail
    And if I can but shed some light as they carry us through the gale

    The older I get the better I know that the secret of my going on
    Is when the reins are in the hands of the young, who dare to run against the storm

    Not needing to clutch for power, not needing the light just to shine on me
    I need to be one in the number as we stand against tyranny

    Struggling myself don't mean a whole lot, I've come to realize
    That teaching others to stand up and fight is the only way my struggle survives

    I'm a woman who speaks in a voice and I must be heard
    At times I can be quite difficult, I'll bow to no man's word

    We who believe in freedom cannot rest
    We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes




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shruthiR thumbnail
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Wow!!well said there👏👏👏
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Thanks Shruthi, i saw you going out of your way to defend Prats in a thread...i was gunna help you. but maybe it was useless. I don't get it, so she has wrongs, but who is anyone to say she deserves what is happening to her because of her wrongs.

The Civil Rights Movement proved civil rights are for women as well...and no ONE not even the law is above any person's civil rights.
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Originally posted by: CanadianAddict

Thanks Shruthi, i saw you going out of your way to defend Prats in a thread...i was gunna help you. but maybe it was useless. I don't get it, so she has wrongs, but who is anyone to say she deserves what is happening to her because of her wrongs.

The Civil Rights Movement proved civil rights are for women as well...and no ONE not even the law is above any person's civil rights.

Yes I was really doing my level best to defend her and will keep doing so coz I know she's right upto a certain level.Too bad ppl are too blind to accept Krishna's mistake and try and cover it up by saying that he loves her,when he doesn't even know the meaning of love🤢.anyway,yup I guess ppl need to be reminded abt civil rights again.Aftter watching this serial,ppl have started to think like the thakurs as far as women's rights are concerned🤢
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👏 Well said! I agree with every word! This forum makes me feel like I am back in the middle ages or something. And all the krishna fans are girls and educated too ... that's what makes it more shocking! But I guess its of no use u know.. they are supporting him after everything that heppened today... some of them even said that even if he rapes her they'll still love him .. so I guess we're jsust wasting out time here ..🤪
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@Shruthi; SO true! I don't care if she is wrong, but who is Krishna to punish her for them then? IS he the law, why are ppl like yes he loves her.

OKAY he does. get over it. Doesn't take away her right not to love him back or even yell at him.
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well said CanadianAddict 👏
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Very well written mate!

n maybe they want Arhaan to come n say that Krishna doesn't deserve supporters!
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AlmostHonest: i know, im usually very calm but this post had to be made. i was too shocked =/

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