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Posted: 16 years ago
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Taral, nice post...

there is a very fine line of distinction between an ego and self respect. And its really impossible for humans to maintain that distinction line. Thats what Sadhna said to Ragini when Ragini was crying that they left home...that both Vasu and Alekh-Ranveer are wrong, but its an extremely difficult situation and they have to work to make things straight...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

Taral, nice post...

there is a very fine line of distinction between an ego and self respect. And its really impossible for humans to maintain that distinction line. Thats what Sadhna said to Ragini when Ragini was crying that they left home...that both Vasu and Alekh-Ranveer are wrong, but its an extremely difficult situation and they have to work to make things straight...

I too agree that there is a fine line between an ego and self respect. but I also believe that self-respect should not come at the cost of someone elses sorrow. Just like Sadhna, she has alot of self-respect for herself, but she won't mind degrading her charcter if it brings happiness to another. I am not thinkin of Vasu as a criminal, more as a mother and I just feel that Ranveer and Alekh should have shown their self-respect by demanding that their wife be brought home with all respect. I don't really know how I feel about this situation. I myself once said that sometimes children really need to show their parents the right path when they get lost. There is nothing wrong with that. But here, I think by doing what Alekh and Ranveer are doing, its only adding to Vasu's anger and hate.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: taral83

I too agree that there is a fine line between an ego and self respect. but I also believe that self-respect should not come at the cost of someone elses sorrow. Just like Sadhna, she has alot of self-respect for herself, but she won't mind if degrading her charcter if it brings happiness to another. I am not thinkin of Vasu as a criminal, more as a mother and I just feel that Ranveer and Alekh should have shown their self-respect by demanding that their wife be brought home with all respect. I don't really know how I feel about this situation. I myself once said that sometimes children really need to show their parents the right path when they get lost. There is nothing wrong with that. But here, I think by doing what Alekh and Ranveer are doing, its only adding to Vasu's anger and hate.

actually, more than leaving home, if Ranveer and esp. Alekh had said that this is my home also, I want to stay here with my wife...he should have coaxed and begged to his mom,.I am pretty sure Vasu might have melted just like what she did in case of Ragini-Ranveer marriage...but not all things work out in the probable and expected way...may be this way, Alekh had to ebcome independent...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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@ bani,
You are right.......that is one thing I am really proud of.......that Alekh became independent. But the ulimate goal here is to become ONE...and FAMILY............And when a love one leave the home like this....its just becomes harder to become a united family again. those hard feelings take even longer to erase
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: taral83

@ bani,

You are right.......that is one thing I am really proud of.......that Alekh became independent. But the ulimate goal here is to become ONE...and FAMILY............And when a love one leave the home like this....its just becomes harder to become a united family again. those hard feelings take even longer to erase

true, actually since this is a show, everything will be perfect again...nut this does not happen in real life.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: taral83

@ dewdrop~pearl*

Agree with every word you say.....but what I am trying to point out is why do the two brothers have to stay away from there mother to prove themselves? Why can't Alekh not bring back Sadhna to the Rajvansh home..it is his home also?........Just like they have broken all ties and left home...why couldn't they break all ties but stayed home and proved themselves. I think that would have put Vasu in a bigger dilema. As I said Egoism is still egoism, whether it is bad or good, and it will never give to bliss. The foursome will accomplish everything, but if Vasu doesn't change then all their work will go in vain. What we think is self-fishness in Vasu, Vasu thinks its self-respect for herself. She has to prove herself right, that her son's are nothing with out their last name. Just like Alekh and Ranveer have to prove that they are something with out their name, to show and prove their self-respect, good or bad, its still egoism. And egoism will never create bliss...........

agreeing with all the points except one.... living under the same roof as Vasu. Here, I would say, it was a good decision for Ranveer-Alekh to leave the house as Vasu had indirectly challenged them that without a rajvansh title, they have no identity , to prove that, Ranveer could not even accept the job he got due to the Rajvansh title. Here the need for self-respect and confidence in oneself is as important as search for their own identity and individuality. Staying under the same roof will not help them to acheive this their way.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: taral83

Very good point...........just to play devil's advocate.........isn't now Alekh and Ranveers ego superior then the emotional support their mother may need?
AGAIN: I am in no what defending Vasu...just talking about ego.........so don't kill me guys..lol😆

well taral in their case its more of a self respect..as in 'how can u cheat our emotions for ur ego' kind of feeling...and there are times when pride becomes really important..esp when sumone is trampling all over u..like vasu in these cases...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I still believe self-respect and self-confidence is very important for any individual. Ego is just secondary. So though it makes sense to sacrifice ur self-respect for the welfare of someone else in a GENUINE situation, like for eg., when maamiji was in the hospital and reqd money for operation, in such circumstance even if sadhna forgot her self-respect and begged someone for money, that would be justified, even though her self respect is being shattered there. But in case of Vasu, thats not the case. Its just her ego, and not any genuine need.
And guys, its not possible for Ranvir and Alekh to live with Vasu saying 'Its my home also', as that would be even worse a treatment that a son would be giving to his mom, as it would be like totally disrespecting her preference. But in this case, they are also respecting their mom's preference that she doesnt want to stay with Sadhna in the same house, at the same time giving due respect to Sadhna. And another reason is that Alekh himself said Sadhna will not get due respect in Rajvansh house, and thats why Alekh wants to keep her with all the respect she deserves. Just imagine if Sadhna was staying in Rajvansh house, on a daily basis she would be ill-treated by Vasu and Vasu will try everything to make Sadhna unhappy on a daily basis.
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