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Posted: 15 years ago
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i second Tanyaz .

Every word ........Every word .

Frankly the moment he yelled Archu shud have told him........Listen , you made your decisions , what I do with my life is now mY problem . Not yours . Plz GO .

Instead like a pathetic fool she kept saying Kounsa ghar , kounsa ghar , trying to send him a message that I regard only your home as my home take me back .

She lost her dignity and Manav , his entire persona that made him MANAV .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Finally, one reply.. thanx!!

I guess my post was too long this time to find any takers.


Anyways.. hopefully by the end of this track you won't hate Manav so much.



I must first thank you, this is very acute.. well done. I do agree and wish I had the verve to expose such an analysis as well. most commendable. Reminds me of Pride and prejudice as both protagonist discover themselves and grow by outgrowing their weaknesses
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I don't believe this.. not at all!!
For all that everyone keeps speaking about Archu's dignity and self-respect, you want Manav to accept Archu even though right now she is the villain in his eyes and does not hold the respect that had made him fall in love with her??
Well, I really don't. Relationships dont survive only on love, and even though Manav may be looking like a villain to everyone right now, I'm actually glad he didn't accept Archu saying, "I love her so much and she also loves me.. so maybe I should forget that she destroyed my family.." or "If I dont take her back where will she go... what will she do..???" (Pity) What will this relationship give both of them?? Nothing. The bad memories will haunt them forever. Manav wont be able to defend Archu when Savita wud taunt her for ruining the house, cos she is a culprit in his eyes anyway. Love as a weakness never makes relationships successful. Relationships never survive if there is no respect. And I'm glad Pavitra Rishta showed this dilemma, right now from Manav's view point and earlier from Archu's. Archu loved Manav but never accepted it, nor did she go back to him cos she thought him a characterless man, she didn't respect him. Slowly when the seeds of respect started sprouting due to the Varsha affair, she started thinking, until finally she accepted that he was a good man and declared her love for him openly. then when she found out the whole truth.. there was no stopping her... love with respect is the biggest strength, but love without respect is the biggest weakness, and I am happy Manav did not fall weak in front of his emotions.The same thing is what I want with Manav too. I want him to find out the truth, respect her again and go down on his knees to get her back and respect whatever decision she takes.
The bad thing is that in all this mess and this harsh reality, the person suffers... Earlier Manav suffered, now Archu is suffering.
And regarding why he didn't show Archu any love or sympathy, isn't that kind of obvious??? He doesn't want to raise any false expectations.. certainly not after saying that they must go different ways... exactly like Sulochana never said a small thankyou to Manav after he saved Varsha, same case... not raise false expectations. (this Sulochana thing was pointed out by others not me)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I had pointed it out .

And no one is asking him to show her love and sympathy . We r asking for sensitivity , not love or sympathy. And it cud have been shown by just being silent and asking her to go home .........instead of yelling and asking if she wanted to hurl more accusations at him. Coz that was NOT the time to talk that way to her , his mom had pushed her around like a dog and he had told her he was marrying Shravani earlier . So the fact that she was sitting , shaken , stunned , still trying to take it all in , shud have sunk in his brain .........and he cud have reacted by curtly telling her to go to her house as her parents were worried . He didnt even have to tell her that HE was worried .

Any expectation of LOVE and SYMPATHY from him here ? Nope. Remember sensitivity was Manav for u. And all we r saying is the creatives destroyed the earlier Manav.

You keep saying give him time.........but Niki [ if i may call u that ] after this twist , so many serious changes occured , Sachins death , baby , his personal decision to marry Shravani , that I really dont see any scope for the original Manav returning . Even if this Manav will finally come to his senses , it will never be the same again. He will be a sadder , wiser Manav , perhaps a Manav who now knows what his mother really did , but never the same one that we adored from the title song . He was there only till the point Damodar gave him the tape and told him go bring my bahu and he was about to till the police arrived . Exactly at that point scriptwriters killed that Manav off and started these changes .

I understand it is very hard for Manav fans to let go of that old Manav . Eventually they all will come around coz the damage they did to his character is really irrepairable.

About the rest of your opinions.......well it is a subjective perspective , to each his own . Mine is exactly he type Tanyaz has . I see the soap on a day to day basis and feel for he characters as and when they change. Trust me , already impatience with Archu for crawling so much has begun welling up in me .........if she gives him any more power to hurt her by saying Kounsa ghar pathetically inspite of him kicking her out , my own posts bblasting her , NOT manav will start . I cannot STAND loss of dignity .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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what an analysis Nikita...you are at par with Taran Aadarsh and Nikhat Azmi. Keep up the good work. 👏
Edited by satyamdas - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Thank you Satyam das... but that is too big a compliment.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu: I wrote sympathy cos Tanyaz mentioned it in her post and you agreed with her. ("He shud have put a hand on her shoulder etc..")

About sensitivity.. I guess that will be a subjective opinion again... he was speaking in his normal tone.. (no yelling.. I saw the video again to confirm it)... he was a bit angry as he has been very worried for her and many bad thoughts about her must have come into his tiny head..(hehe!!) a girl moving alone on the streets of Mumbai all night.. very dangerous... and so he got angry at her for behaving so... later when he came to know she was sad and disappointed, he became quiet and said that we must go our separate ways now and Ill drop you home.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Well, kool you are asking about sesibility.. He is very angry with archu at moment and plus he told and clarified everthing himself is yet another act of being sensible.. But Manav is also at fault.. You know ONE WAKES UP, OTHER GOES INTO DEEP SLEEP....

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