Do you think shows based on God should be made? - Page 7

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

Ofcuzz di. I chose the first option. Ppl say to give proof of god. Alrite then why dont u sit and do, "Vishnu Sehstranam" for 13 years in the right manner and have Lord Vishnu give u his darshan. But the fact is, ppl wudnt do it from their heart but rather to just see if he'll come or not. Obv. you have to have devotion towards god. And not ask for proof for the exisistence of god.

Secondly, ppl say science science all the time. Well, science i.e. medical science many a times fails in giving birth to a child and many women are told that you cant conceive anymore, put in hindi they are called as "banjh"....but I hve seen it with MY OWN EYES that bcoz of Bhagvad jis blessings many women have conceived. My guruji does bhagvad ji and when women seek for blessings for a child wen they are told they cant conceive, then my guruji puts a fruit any fruit and prays to Bhgavad ji when hes doing katha and then after the day's katha ends he gives that fruit to the lady/ladies and it has happened many/all the times, they conceived. Thats the power of God, thats the power of being his devotee and believing in him.

Thirdly, I know of ppl who by the power of their bhajan have attained SO much power that as they wish, things get turned in that manner. They can tell u ur past 30 years back and future as well just by seeing u.. But obv. they dont waste it...they dont come infront of this world, they arent doing it for the materialisitc ppl of this world but so that they can reach to god and attain moksha as they know the real motive of life.

I know ppl who hve had the darshan of God like RadhaVallabh, ShriNath ji, Lord Ram, Bakein bihari and many more bcoz they have done so much bhajan to be more and more near god bcoz of their "bhav" towards God.

Fourthly, science like NASA and all used aircrafts etc. to anaylse space the distances b.w planets etc. WELL, OUR scriptures have ALL the details of all this mentioned since time eternal, since almost 5000 years back bcoz Ved Vyas who wrote Bhagvad ji was such a great astrologer that just by his astrology he wrote it all...the distances etc. They didnt need to go into space and all. Thats the greatness of our hindu astrology.

If ppl wud say how do u know and all that since its all of past etc. then BUY A PANCHANG. Even today our great Indian astrologers predict whats gonna happen in the next year 1 year before and its always been right. Like take this years itself, they had already written about recession, swine flu and other such things which all came true. SO here is a proof of the present write infront of u of how great our hindu astrology is. BUY IT and I can gurantee my lifes money on it being right about the future.

In the end, it just comes down to one thing. Belief. Ppl may give you 1lakh proof but if u dun wanna believe, then u wont. Whereas sometimes just 1 proof is enough. But for me, its utter nonsense to ask for the proof of God. Thats my belief and my opinion.!

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Originally posted by: Rajnish_Kumar

👏 Very well said Angelz. If people give thousands of prof then also nothing could change ones mind, well said👍🏼. adding more here-

Epics Ramayana and Mahabharata are not mere religious treatises but full of scientific details, The writers Valmiki and Veda-vyas were geographers and astronomers par excellence, for eg., in Ramayana Valmiki describes how our country India got its shape specially the tapered southern India which was dug up by 60,000 sons of king Sagara also it describes that 'Bay of bengal was not a sea from beginning but was a LAND!!

That river GANGA is MAN-MADE and not natural which is why the term'Bhagiratha prayatna' came into context. Ramayana also gives information of 'Vimanas' which was used by Ravana and its description is given in details.

The phospherous trident at Peru is mentioned in Ramayan to great accuracy.

Mahabharata also tells us about the constellation Ursa major -sapta rishi and Arundhati saying that Arundhati who once followed Vashishtha began to lead him meaning the Arundhati star lead vashishtha -an astronomal phenomena

The drying up of river saraswati is also mentioned.

Rishi Vedvyas mentions nine planets and has composed stotras for them also known were the planets uranus neptune and pluto under the name of 'shwet' shyam and teevra'.

The creation of Kauravas was fully scientific.

Our ancient Rishis just did not chant the names of lord but were great scientists...Rishi agastya pioneered the making of electricity and showed anyone can create electricity domestically(refer 'Agastya samhit)

Rishi Bharadwaj the father of Dronacharya was a pioneer in 'hydraulics'

Dronacharya himself was a great scientist-teacher- to teach archery requires immense knowldge of Physics and Mathematics.

The creation of Bows and arrows and different astras require great knowledge of metallurgy.....the list is very long so therefoore once cannot make a choice between Religion and science since they are not different from each other.

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

Now you're going too far here, blaming us for wishing bad on others. We are simply stating the rule of Karma: you do wrong, you get punished. Even parents tell their children, "If you do this, we will punish you for it." Does that mean the parents are wishing bad for their children? No. They are telling them that if you do something wrong, you will get punished.

It's a fashion nowadays to question everything and anything. There's nothing great or fashionable about that folks. True Bhakti Bhav is if you believe in God and your scriptures without doubt. That's true Bhakti Bhav. Sure, people can be atheists and be very helpful to society, but their greatness ends there, because God will recognize your greatness only when you surrender to him.😊

People could be non religious but still deeply spiritual.

First kindly differentiate between spiritual and religious. A person not being religious, non-believer in God , not believing there is some transcendental principle which governs everything , not believing there is definition of sins and virtue , of dharma and karma. Is fearless of doing anything wrong or right (as he suppose If a human doest know this no one knows as there is nothing such as god ) , how can be highly spiritual? Or which spiritual principal he holds, does those principal defined by them only? Does his philosophy of spiritualism is something different then what's written in scriptures?

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Nope. You are confusing karma with dharma.

Not believing in any given form of god is not bad karma. Where as keep chanting god's name but ill-wishing for others will definitely earn one bad karma.

God is non-interfering. You get judged at the end of the day based on your karmas only. Praying won't earn you any bonus points if you are not focused on your karma.

I shall write more tomorrow di with some sholkas as its late now so I shall leave!! Very nice topic di. And I am so glad to be a part of it.

"asare sansare vishaya vish sangha kul dhiya
kshanartham kshamartham pebata shuka gatha tul sudham
kimartham vyartham bho brajate kupathe kutsit kathe
PARIKSHIT sakshi yach vangata mukti yukti kathane"

Meaning:--
1st line
Ye sansar(duniya) asar hai(bina kisi kaam ki hai).. Yahan kuch bhi saar(acha) nahi hai. Ye vishyaon se bhara hua hai jaise ki lobh, kama, dambha, pakhanda aur ye vishaya vish(zeher) ke saman hai.

2nd line
Aree murkh, ek sharan(one moment) ke liye ruk ja aur is BHAGVAD katha ka pan kar le; sun le isko; shravan kar le iska...ye amrit ke saman hai.

3rd line and 4th line
Aree bhaiya, kis karan se tu idhar udhar ghum raha hai, Vyarth(bikar) ki baton mein apna jivan laga raha hai. Tujhe malum hai Is katha ke sakshi RAJA PARIKSHIT hai jinhon is Bhagvad katha ko suna aur sune ke turant baad mukti ko prapat kar liya.

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Sut(a) ji Maharaj has told this to the Shonkadik rishi while explaining about MOKSHA and that the Kathas of Lord are everything. And the "proof" is RAJA PARIKSHIT who by merely listening with "bhav" achieved moksha right after hearing Bhagvad ji..

Originally posted by: Rajnish_Kumar

First kindly differentiate between spiritual and religious. A person not being religious, non-believer in God , not believing there is some transcendental principle which governs everything , not believing there is definition of sins and virtue , of dharma and karma. Is fearless of doing anything wrong or right (as he suppose If a human doest know this no one knows as there is nothing such as god ) , how can be highly spiritual? Or which spiritual principal he holds, does those principal defined by them only? Does his philosophy of spiritualism is something different then what's written in scriptures?