Firing Employees (layoffs)

Hi all,

Just thought I would try a interesting debate. Most of us are in college or work in the real world so it should be interesting. I will state my views after...

(scenario: bad economy, low demand for goods)...

1. Do you think employers have the right to lay-off employees at their will?

2. Who is to blame in these situations?

Hint: the law is not on the side of the employees as it is on the employer... yes its true..Too many loop holes..😭

(sorry if this was disused, thought it was a nice 1)..

Originally posted by: AsliiGuy

Hi all,

Just thought I would try a interesting debate. Most of us are in college or work in the real world so it should be interesting. I will state my views after...

(scenario: bad economy, low demand for goods)...

1. Do you think employers have the right to lay-off employees at their will? Well yeah, if they don't have the money to pay their employees, how can they keep the employees!

2. Who is to blame in these situations? Could be many factors. The economy, how they run the company and finances, or employees not performing as efficiently as they can...

3. Do you think laying off based on pay, age or working class is reasonable? I don't think you can lay-off anyone based on working class/age. I don't think employers are allowed to discriminate based on things like that (but of course they do). Currently I think employers look at where their company would least suffer without the employees, and cuts are made there.

Hint: the law is not on the side of the employees as it is on the employer... yes its true..Too many loop holes..😭

(sorry if this was disused, thought it was a nice 1)..

1. Do you think employers have the right to lay-off employees at their will?

Originally posted by: AsliiGuy

Hi all,

Just thought I would try a interesting debate. Most of us are in college or work in the real world so it should be interesting. I will state my views after...

(scenario: bad economy, low demand for goods)...

1. Do you think employers have the right to lay-off employees at their will?

It is called at will employment. Companies need to be able to do so. It is the difference between profit and loss.

2. Who is to blame in these situations?

It is hard to put the blame squarely on anyone, especially in economic times. Sometimes it is poor management decisions, poor sales & marketing, poor strategy, sometimes it is ill luck. Sometimes it is excessive demands on behalf of employees and customers.

3. Do you think laying off based on pay, age or working class is reasonable?

The layoff should be based on whatever the company feels reasonable. If a division is not performing well, if a branch is not performing well those issues will be targeted. Sometimes the company just needs to shed excess weight to be lean mean and competitive. If a pay band is not worth its paycheck, chop them. If a group is not dynamic with times chop them. If a blue collar factory is too demanding and they can be easily replaced chop them.

Hint: the law is not on the side of the employees as it is on the employer... yes its true..Too many loop holes..😭

I think the law is quite fair enough at least in United States. Based on their size employers are supposed to give 30 to 90 days notice. Usually at least a two week severance is required. Also the company pays unemployment benefits too.

Last year I was laid off by a big telecommunications company. We received 90 days notice + a month severance. Since they closed us before end of ninety days we got paid for not working. Before closing down they gave us resume training, interview training and held job fairs. They even let us sign up for tuition reimbursement (I signed up for way more courses than I can handle). I found an equitable paying job albeit in a different field even before the 90 days was up.

So in my opinion those who complain about layoffs are those at the bottom of the food chain, and they choose to be there.

(sorry if this was disused, thought it was a nice 1)..

Originally posted by: AsliiGuy

Hi all,

Just thought I would try a interesting debate. Most of us are in college or work in the real world so it should be interesting. I will state my views after...

(scenario: bad economy, low demand for goods)...

1. Do you think employers have the right to lay-off employees at their will?

If not voilating any contract then why not? Also if then can sustain and be profitable without them then why hire in first place.

2. Who is to blame in these situations?

Whole company, specially the think tanks and risk management employees.

3. Do you think laying off based on pay, age or working class is reasonable?

Yes, whatever it takes to get back in business.

Hint: the law is not on the side of the employees as it is on the employer... yes its true..Too many loop holes..😭

(sorry if this was disused, thought it was a nice 1)..

Originally posted by: AsliiGuy

Hi all,

Just thought I would try a interesting debate. Most of us are in college or work in the real world so it should be interesting. I will state my views after...

(scenario: bad economy, low demand for goods)...

1. Do you think employers have the right to lay-off employees at their will?

Ok since you are in college learn the lesson.. be in could books of the boss who precolates that good will upwards and you will never be laid off...Layoffs are a nice way of saying "you are useless, now get teh f*ck out of here"😆

2. Who is to blame in these situations? yourself... dont piss off your boss and more importantly stay behind him and around... as long as he protects you... no tornado can lay you off your cube/office etc..😆

3. Do you think laying off based on pay, age or working class is reasonable?No.. but thats capitalism... u need to keep running to survive.. you want a free lunch after 50 or what?😆

Hint: the law is not on the side of the employees as it is on the employer... yes its true..Too many loop holes..😭 See nothing to do with the law... its human skills... be an apple polisher to your boss and like i sadi earlier i repeat u will never be laid off...

PS: dont forget to offer to get the boss groceries for him once in a while. or pick his kids from teh school etc.. good deeds go a long way. and lay-offs will never occur..😆

(sorry if this was disused, thought it was a nice 1)..

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Ok.. just a synopsis on the psychology of layoffs... see except for teh 5% of the companies who layoff for survival reasons... most others take this as a legal opportunity at restructuring.(read, cover up badly run business, eg. GM, ATT, homedepot, for) and to achieve politically motivated objectives..(the war of hatred and favoratism and race for superiority). all departments are sent a list to recommend people to be laid off. from their dept.. when it comes to your boss ensure you are not at the top of his mind......😊 Remember laying off any individual and corelating any event to his dismissal is illogical.. and mostly meaningless

So rollup your sleeves and be the true Asliguy....😊