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Posted: 17 years ago
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Are you really interested in knowing the "ROOT CAUSE" of all RT's madness and tyranny? No, it's not the railway exams or AB not doing much for the city he lives in. Neither is it the "unfair" playing field duhaee given by some here. Real reasons are aptly pointed out in the article below...read on...... ********************************************************
Holding Mumbai to ransom
26 Oct 2008, 0101 hrs IST, S Balakrishnan, TNN
Consider this. Most of Maharashtra Navnirman Sena chief Raj Thackeray's business associates are non-Marathis. His confidante, Sunil Harshe, is based
in Dubai, looking after Raj's vast business interests in the UAE. Both Thackeray's children are at English-medium schools. His son, who entered college this year, chose to study German instead of Marathi. When Thackeray was part of the Shiv Sena, he would often oblige non-Marathi contractors looking for work with the Sena-controlled Mumbai municipal corporation. Thackeray also smokes the best imported cigarettes and sips high-end Scotch and cognac. He loves to drive a Mercedes or Pajero and is a charming host even if his guests don't speak Marathi. Raj Thackeray is the most cosmopolitan Mumbaikar one could meet at Shivaji Park, where he lives in an elegant penthouse.

But give him a microphone and he becomes a bhaiyya-basher. Bhaiyya is the term for migrants from UP and Bihar. Thackeray's rabid verbal attacks on bhaiyyas and his supporters' physical assaults, have in one fell blow, tried to undermine Mumbai's cosmopolitan foundations.

Raj appears to be following in the footsteps of his uncle, Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray. But there is a crucial difference. In the sixties and seventies, Thackeray senior accused south Indians of robbing Marathis of jobs in banks, the insurance sector and elsewhere.

It was a rant with a reason. The Maharashtrian middle class faced a very real problem. Over the years, the Shiv Sena took corrective steps to recruit lakhs of Marathis to large organizations. Thackeray senior's protest had a political sub-text. At the instigation of the ruling
Congress, it was meant to strike at the communists who were controlling many trade unions in the metropolis.

The nephew is marching to a different drummer. Raj has had virtually to invent an enemy - the hapless bhaiyya. First and most important, there just aren't many jobs available in the commercial capital of India facing recession. Migrants to Mumbai work in sweatshops; drive cabs and autorickshaws. They are not a major threat to unemployed sons-of-the-soil.

So why is Raj getting the bhaiyyas beaten up? He claims that the railways don't advertise vacancies in the Marathi press, which prevents local youths from finding out about jobs available. But railway officials insist the recent examinations were advertised in Marathi newspapers.

Raj's outbursts have a political background. The state's Democratic Front government comprises Congress and the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP). But as Shiv Sena executive president and Raj's bete noire, Uddhav Thackeray, says, the government is a non-performing one. He has consistently evoked an excellent response on his extensive tours of the state's different districts precisely because he lambasts the state government for its "failure on every front." The government has not added a single MW to the state's power generation capacity. Maharashtra is facing a 5,500-MW shortage of power. Fuel shortage means the mega power plant at Dabhol on the Konkan coast hardly produces any electricity at all. Hundreds of farmers in Vidarbha's cotton belt continue to commit suicide. Maharashtra's infrastructure is almost, but not quite, on a par with Bihar.

In addition, rallies addressed by Uddhav and BJP leaders have evoked huge response from the masses, says state BJP president Nitin Gadkari, ensuring many sleepless nights for Congress and NCP leaders. So what better way of preventing the saffron alliance from returning to power than weakening the principal opposition party, the Shiv Sena? Raj's exit from the Shiv Sena gave the Congress-NCP alliance a chance to weaken Bal Thackeray's 43-year-old party.

In a cynical move, the state government decided to look the other way when Raj and his men attacked the north Indian migrants, to demonstrate their commitment to the Marathi manoos. Though Raj wanted to show he was the real champion of Marathi interests, the government had a different calculation in order to ensure the Marathi vote is split. It let him have his share of the political fun. Film director and activist Mahesh Bhatt says, "The government is playing with fire for short-term
electoral gains. Mumbai's cosmopolitanism is under threat."

Viren Shah who was at the forefront of the traders' campaign to counter Raj's coercive tactics says, "We all respect Marathis and Marathi culture. But leaders like Raj are giving a bad name to Mumbai and all that it stands for. The problem for Marathis is the same as for non-Marathis - water shortage, poor sanitation, pathetic infrastructure and poverty. But Raj is allowing himself to be used by vested interests bent on weakening the Shiv Sena."

Raj's anxiety levels must have risen when the press started to speculate that Uddhav would be chief minister if the Shiv Sena-BJP combine wins next year's assembly elections. He must hope he never sees that day. If the bhaiyyas are to be targeted to prevent this, so be it.
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Posted: 17 years ago
#52
SP vigilantes to protect north Indians in Maharashtra
30 Oct 2008, 1130 hrs IST, PTI
NEW DELHI: Alleging a "breakdown" in the law and order machinery in Maharashtra, Samajwadi Party leader Amar Singh said on Wednesday unarmed workers
of his party will travel in trains in that state to prevent north Indians from being attacked. ( )

"There is a breakdown...whether it is constitutional or unconstitutional has to be decided by the Cabinet," Singh said.

The SP general secretary claimed that he has directed his Maharashtra unit chief Abu Asim Azmi to travel with party workers in trains to protect north Indians. "They will not travel with arms but with self-confidence...carrying arms will give an issue to Raj Thackeray," he added.

He said despite Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's intervention, a second murder (of a north Indian) has taken place in Maharashtra.

Singh added that though "the PM's political will cannot be doubted ... (but) something has to be done about the chief minister," he said, while condemning the killing of a UP migrant in the state yesterday.

Singh hoped that through his repeated requests, "something can be done about the (Maharashtra) chief minister ... I am sure he will be pulled up".

He said despite Centre's insistence, Maharashtra government failed to take urgent steps against unabated violence, "which has sullied the UPA government's image".

On being asked as to why SP was supporting the UPA government despite escalation of violent incidents in Maharashtra against north Indians, Singh said, "I see a ray of hope in the UPA leadership, as they can't avoid voters in north India, otherwise an emotional trigger will ruin their fortunes during elections."

On his repeated request for a judicial inquiry into the Jamia Nagar encounter, Amar Singh said though both PM and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi were "positive" about it, he could not understand the delay behind such a decision.

To a poser on LJP Chief Ram Vilas Paswan's demand for imposition of President's Rule in Maharashtra, Singh said since SP was not in the UPA coalition, he could only alert the central government.

"Paswan is in the Cabinet and as his party is part of the government, he is in a position to ask it for imposition of President's Rule. But we are supporting the government from outside and can only alert it about the situation in Maharashtra," he added.

When asked whether SP's image would be damaged in Uttar Pradesh by supporting the UPA, Singh said, "we are supporting the government from outside and we are standing by it for a larger secular plank. Though attack on north Indians is a burning issue right now, communalism is a bigger threat."

Reacting to Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar's concern over killing of Rahul Raj, Singh said: "if he is so concerned, he should ask BJP to prevent Shiv Sena from taking credit of instigating violence against north Indians".

He said that with MNS and Shiv Sena indulging in a race to take credit over instigating attacks on north Indians, the "casual approach" of Maharashtra Congress leaders "is very dangerous for national interest".

The SP leader claimed that "if Mulayam Singh Yadav takes the lead", then there might be a possibility of north Indian leaders getting united over the issue.

"Under Mayawati this is not possible, but if Mulayam Yadav takes the lead, then it can be done".

Singh said that the UP government has announced a compensation of only Rs two lakh for family of migrant Dharam Dev, who was killed yesterday in Maharashtra. "We would be giving Rs five lakhs from our side," he said.

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Just read the rantings above. It's out an out political move. Koi kisi ko protect naheen karna chaahtaa. Lot of finger pointing and taking advantage of the opportunity that RT foolishly presented to idiots like Amar Singh on a platter. Making new alliances and breaking some old ones - in a nut shell, assuring their vote bank expands while other parties' shrinks.
I mean what the heck is Amar Singh doing butting in Maharashtra? Shouldn't he first worry about U.P. and try to fix the law and order situation there!!! RT ney jo aagh lagai hai uss mein sab apney haath senkney mein lagey huye hain.
I am sure some here will totally understand the root cause of SP's decision listed above as they have been so very open minded about this whole "hate" ordeal. Going by their rationales so far, if RT is justified in his actions then so is Amar Singh. Afterall, Indians are pretty numb to the mayhem and carnage going around them by now.
I happen to disagree with SP and Amar Singh both. This is not the first time or only place where we have had a breakdown of law and order. SP parading in buses and taxies on pretext of "protecting" north indians is going to aggravate the current situation even more.
This was my major worry when RT started his non-sensical anti-north tirade. He is helping goons like Amar Singh and Abu Azmi take advantage of the situation and play their vote bank politics. Mumbai is doomed. An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind - as posted by RTH in one of her posts. Sorry state of affairs - all because Congress and NCP got insecure with the BJP-Shiv Sena alliance. They used RT as their pawn. Fool that he is, RT did not realize he will be the worst loser in this whole ordeal. Congress, NCP, and SP will try to get as much political mileage out of this anti-nort tirade as possible. When the time is right, RT will be pushed away and tossed out just like one removes a thorn from their foot.
Edited by Gauri_3 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#53
One of the best comment I have read on this whole ordeal. Copying and pasting here: *************************************************************************************************************
Raju Kulkarni, Mumbai, says: The real solution lies in development of Bihar and UP. In India we have very few good cities and Mumbai was one of them but no more. Remember if Bihar and Up take a lesson out of all this mess they will emerge stronger. If they blame marathis then marathis will also blame back because blame game is in everyone;s nature.
No Politics is done for benefit of others. It is all done for the benefit of politician. I see this part of a malaise that politicians want to grow. More Biharis might take to extremism. And may kill and die in Mumbai. This will be to advantage of leaders of 2 states. Maharashtra and Bihar. And probably enemies of India who still have never reconciled with an idea of India. Mumbai needs controlled migration.
But a vision needs to be created.India should have 7 financial hubs across the nation. Probably Indore, Chandigarh, Vizag, Surat, Aurangabad, Greater Noida, Jamshedpur. I believe if rather than fighting on Marathi Bihari a visionary outlook can be created then a solution is there in sight.
Remember all this is with an eye on comin elections. Leaders like Digvijay and Laloo and Amar have 2 points to make. First forcing marathis to react more so that they can get a similar reaction in UP, MP and Bihar. Vote Polarisation. And Second the congress is creating all this mess to ensure its voictory in coming Lok Sabha.My worry is for India. These politicians will truly destroy India.
I am taking this comment from a commentator at a web site. I liked this Gentleman's comment. "I feel this is politics at its worst. Two failed leaders who see the election coming nearer seem to have united to divide the country. One is Laloo Yadav and other is Raj Thackeray and these are brothers in arm. Laloo Yadav ruled Bihar for 15 years and bashed Upper castes regularly but not once talked progress. Raj Thackeray is a man in hurry. He knows Mumbai is failing and he knows Mumbaikars are fed up with infrastructure woes. What best thing to do rather than solve a problem find the cause of the problem? And as we all do we point a finger to a person regarding his ethnicity, religion, caste or language.
Let me dissect Laloo. He is not once calling for progress in Bihar or asking biharis to use this opportunity to develop Bihar. All he is doing is shouting that this is wrong. I will stop Trains. I will do chat Puja in Mumbai.
Let me dissect Raj. He is shouting how come few Biharis wrote this and said this and did that. Did he once say that Krishna(Mathura) and Ram(Ayodhya) both were also Bhaiyyas? And yet he may use Gita and Ramayana daily to elaborate he is a hindu. Isn't Jhansi in UP and don't so many Marathis live there? Isn't indore in MP and don't so many Marathis live there? Infact this entire belt has Maratha heritage. Did Raj open a school? Did he worked with lower class Maratha people? One Raj Bihari is shot down and Raj feels his security is threatened but did he once think about the people he is making insecure.
This is all politics. Hindu, Muslim, Upper caste, Lower caste, Hindi, Marathi. Sad part is that the biggest racists among all are the well educated people.
[30 Oct, 2008 1508hrs IST]
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I see the exact same reasoning in this opinion that I have expressed on this thread over and over again. Raju Kulkarni summed it all up beautifully. This is what touches me most about my country. We have lot more open minded people than regionalistic close minded morons. This is what keeps India moving forward - despite the jerks we have for politicians running our country.
Edited by Gauri_3 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#54
Another good opinion posted on TOI:
Marathi Manoos, mumbai, says: Its a normal phenomenon used by Politicians to pick up a 'seemingly' genuine stand for the local public. These issues can provide quick political mileage but normally lack clarity and are not out of real good intentions. If Raj really wants tp help people of Maharashtra there are other major issues to be tackled: - 1) Severe power (electricity) crisis 2) Farmers suicide in Vidarbha 3) Presence of large number of illiegal Bangladeshi immigrants (lakhs in Mumbai itself) Agree that there could be some malpractices in employment in Raliways but 'killing' the poors is not going to help. There are other means to protest against that but those other means will not give political mileage. Ultimately he wants to be in power by hook or by crook. There are some social networking sites mentioning 'Raj is Angaar- baki sab bhangarr'. True he may be angaar (fire) but this fire seems to be burning Maharashtra itself!!

[30 Oct, 2008 1325hrs IST]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/msid-3654119,curpg-2.cms


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Posted: 17 years ago
#55

This is for those who claim north indians are not interested in knowing the "details" or they always support lalu and SP when they justify divisive politics:

nktiwari, loni, ghaziabad u.p., says: Mr. Amar Singh During your party government, nothing was done to improve law and order in u.p. itself and we always see that whenever you make any statement about anything you only laugh. Then we know that how much you care about us. If one has job opportunity in surrounding area, then who wants to go more that 100 mile away. Mr. Raj Thakre is dividing country and congress and ncp are supporting the Mr RAj Thakre acts, you are supporting central government, then you are also with same party.
[30 Oct, 2008 1301hrs IST]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/msid-3654119,curpg-2.cms


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Posted: 17 years ago
#56
....another opinion - the misguided one though....on the lines of what someone here said to defend RT and MNS.......let us see if they are still as "open minded" about SP protecting north indians as they were about "RT's anti-north indian rants". After all, the underlying issues here can be justified using the same line of argument that some used here on this very thread😉. Read on.......and just for records - I disagree with all the blabber I am copying and pasting here in this very post.
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dominic, India, says: Amar Singh and SP have moved in the right direction. The SS and MNS fire needs to be fought with fire , only iron can cut iron. The SS and MNS need to be shown their place in Bombay , as the Police Chief rightly says Bombay is nobody's fathers property. Why does the SS and MNS not throw out the maharashtrains coming into bombay from other parts of maharashtra - they are outsiders too.
[30 Oct, 2008 1244hrs IST]
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Aditi Nanavaty, 27, came home to Mumbai with a master's degree in economics from the natl. univ. of Singapore and planned to join Lehmann Bors., or some such other investment bank, early next year. but then, things got ugly. As more of the top banks announced problems, she had to dial down her salary expectations and change the companies she was interested in joining. While she is far from accepting the protectionist policies being talked about, she said, she better appreciates the job stability a union would bring.
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