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Posted: 16 years ago
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I still stick to everything I said. I won't respond to the whole thing as it would be saying the whole thing all over again. I doubt there is a right and wrong in this. One can believe in moral absolutism or relativism whatever seems right to you. I think it's really wrong Tanya married Yuvraj. If I go by absolutism I will have to think she is one of the worst person alive. I don't have the heart for it. Given her circumstance which you are more than free to ignore I forgive her. And her actions seem understandable to me. This is really a stretch, and I wouldn't say this but for now I can't find a better example..Murder is WRONG!! But when it's done for self-defense it's ok. That is exactly the same way I see Tanya and Raj's marriage. Maybe I have a easier time looking at it because I saw no real connection between Trish and Raj to begin with. Tanya and Raj's friendship seemed stronger to me.

Again..when Tanya tried to commit suicide (2nd time) we all said it was wrong. I personally believe it was a very dumb decision. Dumbest one yet after Trish's wedding night. Dumb yet selfless on her part. Yes she was dumb but she was thinking about Yuv. Now if I made a post about that I would end up mentioning both. You can choose to look at the praise and ignore the criticism.

And no there is nothing wrong if one chooses to put herself over others. But that is not Tanya's character. So far I haven't seen her do it. I will always see her as the weak scared girl who was willing to yell at Raj and ignore the fact she was in danger just for his sake. And I love her to bits for it. I return to this show for her. I do wish she would gradually become a stronger person, till then I accept all her flaws and I only love her more and more by the day!

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

I think you have COMPLETELY twisted my words around and have made some very sanctimonious statements as a result. I'm not sure how exactly you derived some of this thinking, and I'm not going to guess.

eeeh...dear. Then you shouldn't write posts in such a way where people might think you have a problem with praising the character. Because I just read your post twice and I felt both times you meant to tell us stop loving her. I know you didn't say it but it sure felt that what you were trying to tell us. Starting from the global warming joke.

How else would I take " PLEASE STOP THE TANYA LOVE"?? Did I miss something while I was away. Did someone say something about Tanya that was not true? Who is painting the mother theresa picture??

" This whole she's so selfless, she sacrificed only for her family is an opinion I have a couple of problems. You should accept that while she has noble intentions to safeguard her family and herself (you absolutely cannot deny me this--that she benefited from the marriage, she was set to live with Yuv and was just a bit more secure). "

No one denies she benefited from it?? what's your point?? Because the whole reason for the marriage was so she could benefit from it.

" JUDGE ACTIONS, JUST NOT BY THE INTENTIONS, BUT THE EXPECTED RESULTS. Tanya did something very wrong--marrying Yuv. IT WAS A WRONG ACTION AND IT WAS WRONG OF YUV TOO. I do not care if she was raped (and please don't say I'm not empathizing or understanding rape victims across this planet of ours or that I'm mean. I share things with my sister all the time--clothes, opinions, trips, money but never a guy). And from what little I know of rape victims, marrying your sister's fiance is perhaps not the best therapy.) "

I would hate to sing the same song all over again saying it was an understandable situation. But yeahh you are right. She was wrong. But thank god she was wrong. I would've never watched the show unless they got married.

"And don't say Trish loves Deep. She does, but how do you know that she would not have been happier with Yuv???? And Yuv still has strong romantic feelings for Trish, as he should"

We don't but are we really here to see who trish could be happier with? trish and Raj didn't work for us. The chemistry didn't interest us. The love ended up looking like high school love. Nothing deeply passionate about it where I am awed and I say whoa!! they are soulmates. When Raj held Tanya's hand after the marriage infront of everyone I loved them. I felt this was meant to be. Now I am trying to picture the same scene with Raj and trish and nope it's not working. To be honest it looks really wrong. They look like brothers and sisters to me.🤢 Both are chirpy, they have those simple fights, even got fair complexion so looks similar.😃😃

I know you are a big trish/yuv fan but sorry to say this...but this is how I see it. Raj is a prince. No other words for it. from day one he has been a prince. he wants to rescue people, save them from harm. Fix things so others don't have to worry. Do you know who goes best with prince?? the damsel in distress. Do I need to say who the damsel in distress is?? Maybe you didn;t read the same stories I grew up with. Rapunzel needed saving. Snow white needed saving, sleeping beauty needed it too. Let's guess who our princess is in the show.

I am not sure what trish's flaws are..for me she looks a little insensitive at times. So I can't say if Rajdeep fulfills her and vice versa. Raj needs someone to be protective over, he needs to play the knight. Thats who he is. And Tanya is the one that needs the Prince. She is caring she will appreciate Raj the way Trish didn't. She will understand him at a deeper level. I am making predictions but lets look at the relationship they already had...I don't know about you but even after all the fainting Trish did, it never looked like she knew Raj at a deep level. Everything seemed to be on the surface.Something I go oh hehe yeahhhh that's cute.,,,, Now where is my remote so I can turn to the next channel and find a couple that touches my heart.

You are so busy with differentiating between right and wrong you fail to understand most taaj fans only like this couple because they feel right. They get to heart. We are not here thinking ok let's think what's fair what's not. Then we can decide who gets to be with who. Whatever pleases our heart goes.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yes, your points are well taken. There will always be a big divide in some ways between us. The day posts such as Trishna's jokes today ease up is when I ease up.



It appears whatever pleases the heart goes--then I guess we're all perhaps not in the same boat on this, but on the same sea.



One lesson watching people: Conflict, suffering, or bad situations for certain people make their relationships "deep" or "meaningful" or "real" or "soulmatish" to outsiders. You get hero-worship, you get "destined" to be together when there is merely friendship and strong values. An aberration of love. AGAIN, NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT DEFINITELY SOME OF THE TIME.



Like Yuv--yes, knight in shining armor, damsel in distress or shall I say perpetual distress and tears? Let's agree to disagree on him. Suffice it to say I do not see him as a knight in shining armor--hell, I see Bill Gates or people I know who've volunteered abroad as knights in shining armor (yikes!!!). Not Mr. Yuvraj. For me only, a knight in shining armor is someone who comes in to help--platonically or not. Someone whose actions are right and net-net positive. Yuv made mincemeat of Trish, and I know the creatives made her recover quickly so that she would effectively be "out" of the triangle and viewers would not sympathize with her.



I'm not much into fairytales--my daughters are though. Because, one, it always assumes men save women and not only women, but women who've fumbled into something stupid. I suspect they'll learn one day that fairytales are just that. People and life and motivations and perceptions are all too complicated. And knights in shining armor in reality--we're talking about men for god's sake! set aside the chivalry expectations, <<just kidding>>. I'd rather they be their own knights in shining armor.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Oh God such long posts!! just read halfway through
but tanya fans who keep saying tanya is awesome and trish needs to get better!!
puh-lzz tanya has been just a very weak character from the beginning. And actually none of this would even have had to happened if only she would have opened her mouth and tolddddd someoneee that a weird guy was harassing her!! she could've told anyone her sisters, her dad!! i watched those epis n i was like what the hell does she think shes doing??? some guy is scaring her to death and all she does is sweat n cry and not tell anyone???
everyone is always bashing trishna for being inconsiderate but how considerate was it for tanya to marry her sis's boyfriend and not even tell her why she did tht??? i agree with gp00 yuv n tanya's marriage was plain wrong!! yuv could have protected tanya like a brother; fought for her with kanhaiya done everything for her but whyyy did he have to marry her??? and okay so tanya and yuv got marriedl kool, could you please at least tell your sister under what circumstances did you marry her fiance?? do you not know how devastated she will be?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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People will say to help her preserve her "family honor"---to protect her and the family. Standard answer, true to a large degree. It's a commendable reason, but not a commendable act.

Kanaiyah was very, very disturbed and knowing Tanya she was scared senseless and hoping it would stop (why worry everyone?). But you really can't control these things--it's out of her hands.

crazyfan--you and I agree on the whole idea of such a marriage being wrong. It was their mutual decision but wrong in how it was carried out and to whom the damage was being done. No offense, it's not like Trish deserved it just like Tanya didn't deserve all the terrible stuff that happened to her.



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