Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 41 - Page 126

Originally posted by: Moor278

Hypothetical scenario

If Mannat and Vikrant can come to a consensus that they married legally in a mandir or something and claim that wedding... wouldn't it change everything????

Kahi se bribe deke papers bhi bana lenge... 🤦‍♀️

No other character knows when these 2 got married and how ... but if they both agree to lie for Duas legitimacy... who can question it???

This is what I mean by 'he said' vs 'she said'.

Right now they are at loggerheads... kal ko patchup ho gaya and ek common decision pe aagaye to ye sab jo discussion hum kar rahe hai vo dhara ka dhara reh jayega...

Would be morally compromised leads but Dua would be legitimate..

Creative liberty for the win 🙈🙈🙈

Vik already dreaming of trying to kiss Mannat. I guess it's a dream.

Mannat still goes soft about him.

70% work is already done.

For remaining, only these 2 need to sit somewhere and talk to each clearly not in Jalebis.

But isse episode count increase nai hoga...

Originally posted by: Ecstatic.rafa

I'm a silent viewer on this forum and I guess this is the only forum where people are so negative for Vikrant 😢. I do understand the rage at some amount but this much? No Adnan or Vikrant fan is here who can put Vikrant's pov??

Vikrant pov has been discussed, dissected multiple number of times & has received sympathy wherever it was necessary. Even Mannat has received her own share of bashing, infact she has received bashing 10 times more that Vikrant even in cases were she wasn’t clearly at fault.

Here in IF, people have balanced view. You should check X the hate Mannat receives on a daily basis were an account has already justified that it was not his mistake that he left her at the wedding hall publicly. And this is not new, her character has always been at the receiving end even during the airing of initial episodes.

No one has ever undermined his pain but that doesn't give him the right to abandon her at the hall when she kept on begging him to get married to her & then fight for the entire life if needed. He threw the garland, gatbandhan already caught fire.

Even after she still came back to talk to him keeping her self respect aside. No girl in today's day would do.

Even Vikrant feels pain & has emotions then the same should be thought about her too.

You still havent answered my main question. Will you let Vik have custody, even shared if he is the way he is now? After ARS reveal? The way he cant judge people, tomorrow he will let Dua with ARS's look alike if she comes as nanny and shows paper "proofs". Vik is in that position. yes or no? Read my comments in blue.

Originally posted by: Moor278

If you think I am saying this because I love Vik and will accept any of his idiosyncrasies then you have not met me

Or rather please discuss this with people who have silently blacklisted me

Thats what confuses me. You are so inline with what I was thinking but if I point the same things, you do not like it saying I am not watching episodes. I can judge based on the story. If the story itself doesnt make sense how can you connect to anything is my point unless you like the actor. I have seen your written stories, and I know that your vision of ML is not this low. Then how can you even compare Vik and DK yaar. comeon. DK is a solid man with some principles. Though I dont understnad his biology of living without a companion. I cant expect anyone to be that sacrificial.

I have never said Vik shouldn't have a redemption or he should get Mannat and Dua just by the virtue of it. Mujhe to DK ke negative banne se bhi problem hai re 😑 sirf isliye ki Vik will end up looking better without doing much.

Exactly! Vik is NOT criminal but he is not normal adult who you can share life with. He is so fickle and untrustworthy.

I have been against this idea of custody ever since it came as spoiler. I dont see the logic of it as of now except the writers probably want something legal on Viks side to fight DK if he ever turns negative fully 😐. Thats the only reason why I see Vik would get custody. And yeah they made Neetu trap DK in a false case of bribery so Vik looks better.

There is nothing legal on Vik's side Moor. Biology has no role. At max he will get visitation. I checked laws in india too. Morally also, given his flaws, he is not capable. He might have been once but not now. So he has to prove himself slowly by providing that confidence to Mannat..

I was raising a point based on your previous comments. And I clearly mentioned its only from DK and Viks reference... not Dua or Mannat. Dua ke liye I already mentioned it's not easy to make her understand anything. Mannat is worried for the same .

Keep Viks mistakes aside for a moment... surely they need an independent discussion.

If DK is morally Duas father, so is Vik. He is not a bad fellow in general. He has his traits which are wrong, but he is not a criminal like Aish, nor tried to kill Dua (which is the point Mannat was making).

How? I dont understand this. Ok he didnt know about pregnancy. I sympathize with him. But other than that morally DK wins, he raised Dua. Dua and him have emotional dependency right. Is it moral to break that.

And he didnt knew which is the loophole they have always kept for him.

He loves Dua and has bonded with her. Same as DK.

How again? he didnt even have biological pull. So one month of acquaintance is equivalent to parenthood? Please explain. Unless it is a bad writing where ronnie says so. how will audience connect?

Mannat has never badmouthed Vik in front of Dua or has mentioned his previous kaands so that Dua forms an independent opinion of him.

I support DK when its about Dua...

But if Vik has to agree to be a 'space' in Duas life... so can DK... even he should acknowledge that Vik deserves to be there. We dont see that from DK and hence he is looking grey.

Thats what I am saying only SPACE is needed. I think DK is worried only because Vik is behaving like that. If he had sat down and explained like he will when he gets injured, will DK behave this way. Just like you are saying Vik will be a good father, we can also say DK will understand right? DK has more history to believe to trust him.

That's the moral part of it... Agar morality question karni hai to dono se karo.

Even you agree that if Vik redeems then he can be with Mannat and Dua... isnt that what everyone else is asking too????

Yes. But right now. He should not get more than visitation rights. After how he threatened with court case,

I dont believe simply cohabiting with anyone will give you rights. By that logic, what happens in a joint family if the woman is living in a marital home but her husband is absent or dead???? Will the uncles/inlaws get rights????

And Mannat here is not living with DK alone... when you say live in relationship it implicitly means the adults are in conjugal relationship and the child is born out of that relationship... thats so not the case here.... and theres also RoTu who can decide for Dua. If DK hadnt been around, would Ronnie be termed as father just because he cohabits????

You are getting me wrong. DK is father. How will they prove to court they are not conjugal. Court doesnt care. I am just giving you example of live-in couple. The same laws apply to DK. you can research online. The father in live-in relationships will get custody. Imagine live-in couple adopts, then? same rights. Here they are pretending that they are couple, so court will assume them as live-in. I am saying same laws will apply. Court will not come into the bedrooms.

As far as I know... Uncles/inlaws can only be legal guardians (till adulthood) even if both parents are dead. I know this from personal experience... once that child attains adulthood... he/she is an independent person. He/she can still cohabit but not legally obligated to anything.

I think this guardianship is only to protect the child till he/she becomes an adult capable of making his/her own decisions.

He is not uncle, is he? He is her dad. If Mannat says he is not dad then why is he on birth certificate and school records and in Dua's mind. When a person gets emotionally entangled, court honors it. In the case of child. Same court doesnt consider second marriage though the couple have children and emotionally entangled. Children will become legitimate, but second wife does not. That is to ensure the mental and emotional well being of the children. For adults, second marriage is still void in the eyes of law. See how intricately they are following these emotional dependencies.

In this shows case, Mannat could have still written Viks name on birth certificate but continued with DK as father for pretense purposes. Dua wouldnt have known. Thats the point Shiro was raising. Its wrong on her part and nobody has supported that idea... even solo fans.

And its not even forgery because it is not a fake certificate either. Its misinformation in proper terms. If tomm, the judge punishes Mannat and asks it to be corrected (like Nuts says) DK will lose that claim too.

Thats what I mean by legal standing. DK doesnt have anything whereas Vik will get it purely on biology.

How vik will get on biology? you mean visitation rights? If court knows that he cancelled the marriage the day after, he might not get that also.

Lets not bring Sai here... post leap Sai/Ghum did many mistakes which I dont agree to and I dont want to get into an argument with you on that.

A lot of illegal questionable stuff happened in name of creative liberty there too which we ignored (after complaining 🤦‍♀️ and not getting anything).

Originally posted by: Ecstatic.rafa

Most importantly, it’s a fictional show, and the story needs to move forward. Here, people say Vikrant should be jailed for life, while on X, some say he should leave the country because no one cares about him anymore 🫠 Different forums have different opinions, but mostly I see actor bias. Maybe there isn’t much left to discuss about the story, so people have just picked sides. Anyway, I feel the writers are trying to fix the story, even if it feels dragged at times. Unlike many of you, I think the court case was the only way to stop Duman and Dhairya. At least some misunderstandings have been cleared because of it . No way Vikrant-Mannat baithke discuss karte yeh misunderstandings.

Yeah thats what I think. The writers are writing it for fans. There is nothing more than that. I wrote few days back that they are following RRR movie template. Both leads get same kind of treatment so fans dont get mad.

Originally posted by: Ecstatic.rafa

Most importantly, it’s a fictional show, and the story needs to move forward. Here, people say Vikrant should be jailed for life, while on X, some say he should leave the country because no one cares about him anymore 🫠 Different forums have different opinions, but mostly I see actor bias. Maybe there isn’t much left to discuss about the story, so people have just picked sides. Anyway, I feel the writers are trying to fix the story, even if it feels dragged at times. Unlike many of you, I think the court case was the only way to stop Duman and Dhairya. At least some misunderstandings have been cleared because of it . No way Vikrant-Mannat baithke discuss karte yeh misunderstandings.

Actor bias..?

Seriously ?

I am a first Adnan Fan and decided to watch because of him, only after watching the 1st teaser I found his pairing with Ayesha really good & thats how since more than 1 year I have been a regular watcher of this show.

And most of us are sticking to the show solely because of Adnan & Ayesha.

Why don't you go & check all the earlier threads where so many of us have repeatedly mentioned and appreciated Adnan’s acting. He is the one who has made the character believable & relatable to be able to root for it.

Inspite of some really crappy writing Adnan & Ayesha both have remained in top 10 itv actors consistently...

And please separate character from the individual person. Both are 2 different entities.

Right! thats what they will do. Will you call it good writing? My problem is that...

they have options to make it really worth investing your time, but they are not doing it. I thought they lacked skill. But I think they are not serious about it. They just want the show to run. They are cashing on fans and the tracks which make no sense so fans will discuss and create buzz. TRP is working because of the shock value. If I am tempted to see, then a normal viewer definitely will be.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Hypothetical scenario

If Mannat and Vikrant can come to a consensus that they married legally in a mandir or something and claim that wedding... wouldn't it change everything????

Kahi se bribe deke papers bhi bana lenge... 🤦‍♀️

No other character knows when these 2 got married and how ... but if they both agree to lie for Duas legitimacy... who can question it???

This is what I mean by 'he said' vs 'she said'.

Right now they are at loggerheads... kal ko patchup ho gaya and ek common decision pe aagaye to ye sab jo discussion hum kar rahe hai vo dhara ka dhara reh jayega...

Would be morally compromised leads but Dua would be legitimate..

Creative liberty for the win 🙈🙈🙈

Originally posted by: Ecstatic.rafa

Do you guys even understand the meaning of consent? These are such serious allegations, and it’s honestly beyond me. I gave this show a chance because of Hasan Zaidi, and later the only thing I truly liked was the chemistry between the leads. I had never watched either of the lead actors before, but I liked them in this show. The show lacks in many departments, including acting, but the chemistry is definitely the key highlight here be is Adnan Ayesha or Ayesha Mona . I'm so sorry but I find no character is sensibly written .

To clear it out, Allegations were first put out in the court publicly by Vikrant.

Both Vikrant and Mannat mutually decided to resolve this and handle ot maturely.

He promised again to Mannat in OH but next day she gets custody paper. What is a mother expected to then...just sit & cry..no right...