Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 39 - Page 5

I agree completely with you. There is no point. We are going round in circles. I am skipping useless episodes like the trio attacking Mannat again!! This is like pre leap. What’s new? Mannat might tell Vik she saw ARS but he will not believe her. So it goes around in circles.

They are not writing with any intention except to increase episodes. Mukta seems to be happy in her cocoon of being slot leader even though the TRP fell! It takes one new show to do well and that can change. For that the TRP needs to be well above 1.5 so that any fall does not impact them.

They don’t have the time to write good episodes. There’s one writer or maybe two doing both shows. It’s as simple as that.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Per chaotic , Vikrant staying back with them allowed the witches to relax there by letting Mannat and especially Dua to survive. This is in a way true I feel , if Vikrant and the wealth was not there, they would have gone behind Mannat.

And so I remembered the poison dialogue🙈 , I will write a symbolism going with the positivity flow . Vikrant like Lord Shiva swallowed the poison allowing Dua to be born and survive.

Wow mannat n baby will die if dk didn't support her on that day as she was carrying baby just time when her mom die had no money her hand. Whereas vikrant has wealth and raising his own family along with his ex wife n their adopted son along with new partner. None are Lord shiva Or bdb in this show. It's just lollipop🍭 just like multiple lollipop🍭 manvik dream sequence🤣

Offscreen Neetus should really stay underground for few days... inke Puttar ke bure haal hai

The writing team does know how to highlight Viks weird traits and Mannats smartness

Episode starts with Guddi Mannat and kids having pavbhaji. Some funny moments and almost 5 mins of screen time wasted in whether Mannat will spot Aish.

Eventually she does and gets the shock of her life. Mannat recalls DK shooting Aish, Doc declaring her dead. Mannat wonders if she is hallucinating or she is really Aish.

Mannat then wonders if Vik knows who this is and could it be Aish. Since he knows how dangerous Aish is...

I laughed at this... Mannat you poor girl... if only you knew that Vik has not only met her, but is business partner with her and considers Arzoo his spiritual guru 🤦‍♀️

Mannat is going to be so disappointed in Vik 😭

Mannat continues her investigation when she sees Aish going away. She quickly hires a taxi and follows Aish till Mezbani. During the ride also recalls the post mortem day and wonders how is this possible. Only when they reach mezbani is when her worries increase.

In mezbani Yuvi is throwing another tantrum when he wants to be face of competition... simply because he doesnt want Dua to succeed. He goes and asks for the same from Vik.

And you know its a terrible terrible day for ML when even the vamps make sensible statements 😂😂😂😂

Witches trio try to explain that Yuvi is not capable of winning forget cooking something. But Vik refuses the idea and blames Vish Malla and himself for not teaching cooking to Yuvi. (As if he would have learned a poor mans job 🤦‍♀️)

Vik asks Vish Malla to apologize to Yuvi🤯

Vik tells Yuvi to learn and actually do some efforts to win the competition. Small mercies. 🫢

Ye double standards kal kaha the jab Yuvi ko apologize karna chahiye tha baki kids ko 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Anyway Vish takes him to the dressing room while Vik says he is doing this because he worries Yuvi will leave him again... 🤦‍♀️ what a load of 💩

Malla Vish are thankful that its not Mannats kid who will be face of competition.

In dressing room Yuvi has adopted the aura of a super model and demands cold drink, wants the chef costume to be in blue🤦‍♀️. Y keeps asking him about Mannat (her brother has this idea that Yuvi might know why Mannat is in Mumbai). Model gets upset at Y for not focusing on him and instead asking about Mannat .. throws the cold drink on her dress. Y is angry but pampers him nevertheless.

Mannat makes an excuse to follow Aish while kids eat kulfi. Dua realises its mezbani where she met Khadoos Saluja and where she wanted to come to fulfill her dream.

Precap is same... Mannat following Aish and Aish possibly spotting her.

Running to X to see if the usual suspects are defending oh so innocent victim Vikku boy or have they gone absconding 🙈🙈🙈🙈

Yuvi doesnt even have basic respect for food and Vikrant wants him to be the face of a cooking competition 🙄... on the irony.

Originally posted by: Resham

Just tell me one thing ..are we going to head for nothing. If it's just to increasing episodes then go ahead and show whatever they want. With the World Cup on now and then IPL ahead., don't know what more trauma remains to be seen if whatever has shown till now isn't enough.

Plus the slot is such a safe place na ke with the cricket matches on board this show will not be affected much as the main points start to take place in matches post 8.30 pm. So they will drag on and keep Vikrant away from all the truths till eternity.

I find it worthless to even put an analysis to the episodes. And with the BTS sadism continuity I don't find any way out for me as a viewer to catch back as earlier.

Bold- Ditto!

As such there's nothing in episode and these BTS are actually dreadful. Tired of this Vamps drama man. Everything happens for their benefits 🤬.

Some truth revelation then only story can move forward🤞

But looks like Mukta Mata is not interested in that😡

Originally posted by: scarlett22

I agree completely with you. There is no point. We are going round in circles. I am skipping useless episodes like the trio attacking Mannat again!! This is like pre leap. What’s new? Mannat might tell Vik she saw ARS but he will not believe her. So it goes around in circles.

They are not writing with any intention except to increase episodes. Mukta seems to be happy in her cocoon of being slot leader even though the TRP fell! It takes one new show to do well and that can change. For that the TRP needs to be well above 1.5 so that any fall does not impact them.

They don’t have the time to write good episodes. There’s one writer or maybe two doing both shows. It’s as simple as that.

Theres lot in episodes if people are ready to see how Vikrant's faults have led him to this state.

Its not a waste at all if people can see it from an unbiased position

Originally posted by: Moor278

On the contrary I do trust the writers

They need their show to run and they/Mukta/Jassi know the craze for AdSha so they know these 2 can pull off any crap they write for them and the audience will watch.

I had not listened to that YT reporter reviews... but I did the latest one... one statement of hers has stuck me.

Vikrant ko sach pata chalega to pagal ho jayega. I feel this is how the writers are approaching the story.

Its foolishness to say that Vikrant doesnt have some faults of his own ... whether its due to Neetus upbringing or some other inherent biases he has. But he does have them... which Aish exploited and Vish is doing the same.

We can go on and on about what led to separation... but the truth is its not Mannats habit to lie or hide things.... she reacted to the circumstances and took some decision which proved wrong. She paid the price for it.

The reason Aish exploited it is exactly because of this... it wasnt Mannats usual nature to do something like this... and Aish knew Vik would react harshly to this. Maybe she didnt anticipate the extremities but she knew there would be massive wedge between ManVik.

In the end, Mannat became a victim of Vikrant whereas Vikrant became a victim of himself.

Its wrong to say that only he suffered just because he is alone. It was his choice to be with Vish.

Vikrants habit of constantly doubting Mannat, his habit of proofs (which Aish eliminated successfully), his insecurities/ biases towards Mannat and his habit of believing everything as it is the core issue.

The reason I am pointing this out is post leap too, nothing has changed, rather it has worsened. The environment around Vik is no help either.

Vik has had no introspection... and no I don't expect him to have realization of his mistakes without some truth reveals... but his habit never investigating on his own has led to this. He still believes the first version told to him. Everyone including YY has clocked it and they are using it.

The reason Mannat or Indore gang looks stable and 'moved on' is because they have. They leaned on each other, trust and support each other and work as a unit.

Preleap Mannat and RoTu tried everything in their might to explain to Vikrant. He didnt accept it. He chose to believe the version which aligned with his own memories. And trusted Vish Malla because they were toying the same line.

And he still keeps believing the same or portrays himself as victim because he simply doesnt want to challenge himself.

The alternative truth is much harsher which probably even he understands but refuses to accept. Thats why he finds it easier to blame the other party. Its shocking to think a mom can sell her biological son.

And this is what Mannat Ronnie and DK have been trying to repeatedly tell him post leap ... look within yourself and use some brains to introspect whether there could be an alternate version.

Thats why Vik has to do major work post leap.... all the truth and all the versions/proofs are out in open. Theres really nothing Mannat or RoTu or even DK can pull out after 7 years thats going to change Vikrant. Until and unless he stops playing a victim and starts looking at things from a different perspective nothing is going to change.

And I do understand why they do this... its not just a character trait but a plot device to keep the episodes going...

Had Vikrant investigated or taken some action on his own... things would have resolved quickly. 😆

Aise hi nahi main use Princess Ana bolti hun 😜. He needs everything on a silver platter.

Just imagine the kind of trauma he will face when he realises what a big time fool he has been to blindly trust Vish Malla and possibly Y when everything starts coming out. His choice of believing half truths and giving leeway to certain people destroyed his life and his happiness. They kept him away from the people who wanted nothing but good for him.

There are multiple contributors to manvik separation and I am not denying their role... but the main characters Mannat and Vikrant should be the ones who have to change.

Mannat has changed to some degree... and she too will soften once she realises the picture is not what is presented to her. She has already seen Aish so I am assuming her brains are active now.

When will Vikrant start using his grey cells is a question writers can answer 😂. Meanwhile he should really tone down his anger.

Mannat will be the key person to pull him out of second trauma but for that he has to make some efforts too. Show some amount of regret/realization/pain for her to reach out to him.

Bold: @Moor the thing is it's not just with mannat, Vik is like this with everyone.....,vikrant can't get crooked ways of world, so he believes the least cruel version...and to believe cruel version he needs proofs..be who ever is in front of him.. and most of times it's mannat who can see the cruelty and puts it in front of Vik which is hard for him to believe without proofs.. where as vamps are smart enough to present a less cruel version so he believes them..... And since most of times its mannat who put the cruel truth in front him, we feel his issues are with mannat, but that's not the case he would have reacted same way even if rotu or anyone put out the cruel version,he wouldn't have believed them and asked for proofs.....That's where mannat pointed out the right thing that Vik needs to see who is in front of him, and trust his loved ones even if they present a difficult scenario in front of him... And Vik was actually changing a bit, after mannat pointed this out.... Vik believed in mannat regarding malla's fake ons without proofs, Vik didn't trust vish intially when she was saying mannat is lying, until mannat herself accepted that she lied.. In marriage episode you can see once vik says to vish "nahi main appki batoon mein nahin yakin karunga, mannat jhooth nahi bol sakti, mannat pe bharosa mere liye sabse jyada zaroori hai", the intensity with which he says....one can understand how hard it was for him to build that blind trust which is against his nature, he tried to change in right direction for mannat.. but mannat's lie broke him.... His anger and frustation was understandble up until his allegation regarding DM angle... thats where he went overboard and everything went downhill

mannat too isn't that wrong because it was just a white lie that she said to avoid pain for Vik but from vik's pov he tried building this blind trust on his loved ones after mannat pointed it out but mannat's lie and then rotu accepting their crimes and how they hid it all along.. broke him ,added on to that he had trauma of his past memories coming back to him.... he was stripped of his identity... everything that he ever believed came down crashing he can't recognise himself or anyone else... And all the progress he made.. to believe in his loved ones blindly was backtracked too when he got to know all the people who he ever loved lied...

Yes, Vik has to get over his trust issues, and start trusting his loved ones and not loose trust in them just because of one white lie... on the wedding day he was having ptsd, so him finding it hard to believe them is still understandble, but soon he has to rework on his trust issues...and maybe he already did when he was trying to meet them preleap but them leaving town halted his progress and he got stuck on the same day... and now even though he is bit changed regarding his trust issues he still can't see the games played by vamps because he simply doesnt care, he became very mechanical..because he lost everything that he ever loved...so it doesn't bother him or effect him much if they are lying or saying the truth, he doesn't want to apply that much thinking... but now his loved ones are back into his life who can get effected because of the vamps lies, so Vik might slowly start seeing and gauging their actions...

And mannat and indore gang seem stable because there is no ars around them, now that ars is back ...already chaos has entered their life....

Yesterday when Vik apologised for Yuvi misbehaviour and today when he told Malla-Vish to apologize to Yuvi, realised thats how he was with Neetu. When Neetu did wrong, he scolds her but instead of making her accept her wrong and apologize herself, he does it on her behalf. Also he told Mannat to apologize to Neetu for the drugging accusation.

Vik tries to teach Yuvi the right thing but there are people around the kid who cancels it out. He scolded Yuvi once and the kid ran away. It seem to me they are making parallel of Neetu-Vik with Vik-Yuviin a way. Neetu in her fear of losing Vik did many wrong things, and Vik reminded her its against what he was thought. Yuvi deserves a chance if he shows interest and capabilities, assuming this is the second stage of competition, means he didnt qualify, and Vik went against the rule.

What is Dua’s status in the competition now, disqualified again after the Indore visit?

From bts ARS gang had stolen the money for Neetu treatment. Maybe Mannat can work in Mezbaani to do Arzoo jasusi. Kill multiple birds with 1 stone 😏

Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles

Bold: @Moor the thing is it's not just with mannat, Vik is like this with everyone.....,vikrant can't get crooked ways of world, so he believes the least cruel version...and to believe cruel version he needs proofs..be who ever is in front of him.. and most of times it's mannat who can see the cruelty and puts it in front of Vik which is hard for him to believe without proofs.. where as vamps are smart enough to present a less cruel version so he believes them..... And since most of times its mannat who put the cruel truth in front him, we feel his issues are with mannat, but that's not the case he would have reacted same way even if rotu or anyone put out the cruel version,he wouldn't have believed them and asked for proofs.....That's where mannat pointed out the right thing that Vik needs to see who is in front of him, and trust his loved ones even if they present a difficult scenario in front of him... And Vik was actually changing a bit, after mannat pointed this out.... Vik believed in mannat regarding malla's fake ons without proofs, Vik didn't trust vish intially when she was saying mannat is lying, until mannat herself accepted that she lied.. In marriage episode you can see once vik says to vish "nahi main appki batoon mein nahin yakin karunga, mannat jhooth nahi bol sakti, mannat pe bharosa mere liye sabse jyada zaroori hai", the intensity with which he says....one can understand how hard it was for him to build that blind trust which is against his nature, he tried to change in right direction for mannat.. but mannat's lie broke him.... His anger and frustation was understandble up until his allegation regarding DM angle... thats where he went overboard and everything went downhill

mannat too isn't that wrong because it was just a white lie that she said to avoid pain for Vik but from vik's pov he tried building this blind trust on his loved ones after mannat pointed it out but mannat's lie and then rotu accepting their crimes and how they hid it all along.. broke him ,added on to that he had trauma of his past memories coming back to him.... he was stripped of his identity... everything that he ever believed came down crashing he can't recognise himself or anyone else... And all the progress he made.. to believe in his loved ones blindly was backtracked too when he got to know all the people who he ever loved lied...

Yes, Vik has to get over his trust issues, and start trusting his loved ones and not loose trust in them just because of one white lie... on the wedding day he was having ptsd, so him finding it hard to believe them is still understandble, but soon he has to rework on his trust issues...and maybe he already did when he was trying to meet them preleap but them leaving town halted his progress and he got stuck on the same day... and now even though he is bit changed regarding his trust issues he still can't see the games played by vamps because he simply doesnt care, he became very mechanical..because he lost everything that he ever loved...so it doesn't bother him or effect him much if they are lying or saying the truth, he doesn't want to apply that much thinking... but now his loved ones are back into his life who can get effected because of the vamps lies, so Vik might slowly start seeing and gauging their actions...

And mannat and indore gang seem stable becasue there is no ars around them, now that ars is back ...already chaos has entered their life....

Bold... I certainly do not see it this way... he does have his biases... and mostly with Mannat. Just see today's episode and Mannats statement when she first sees Aish/Arzoo. This is what I mean.

Vik has the same bias for Malla... he heard Aish on Mallas phone saying she will destroy Salujas. Malla was at the forefront of the skit which he saw at Police colony and which triggered him and yet when she says she is doing this out of guilt of her previous behaviour... he very easily believes her... knowing fully well what all Malla has done in the past to separate him and Mannat.

Pink... exactly... Mannat has time and again proven it that she doesn't make baseless claims... that she even went to the point of blaming Neetu for drugging him... and therefore Viks reaction should be to ponder over what she is saying.. she has always proven his first instincts wrong. Did he do that???? Thats the distrust he has on her. That inspite of showing so many times, he still needs proofs to believe her... a girl he has decided to marry and had made bold promises to.

Red... he believed it because he himself didnt believe it was what he could have done and it suited his thought process.

Green... wasnt a lie actually... she hid stuff from him. And the audience knows she didnt want to lie at all. So no... wont call this lying from an audience perspective. In the post skit episode when he tells her he has recalled it seems like she is actually about to reveal until Neetu comes and stops her. Later gives a suicide threat.

Blue is what I am saying since so many days... dont know how else to put it again and again... all I want to see is growth and realization in VIKRANT.... I have no expectations from any other character 😆... have never kept them.

Purple is what I said few days ago.... Vik can be BDB only when Aish is around... but Vik cant be Mannats BDB against himself. Thats Duas job 😄

Originally posted by: purplegirl7

Yesterday when Vik apologised for Yuvi misbehaviour and today when he told Malla-Vish to apologize to Yuvi, realised thats how he was with Neetu. When Neetu did wrong, he scolds her but instead of making her accept her wrong and apologize herself, he does it on her behalf. Also he told Mannat to apologize to Neetu for the drugging accusation.

Vik tries to teach Yuvi the right thing but there are people around the kid who cancels it out. He scolded Yuvi once and the kid ran away. It seem to me they are making parallel of Neetu-Vik with Vik-Yuviin a way. Neetu in her fear of losing Vik did many wrong things, and Vik reminded her its against what he was thought. Yuvi deserves a chance if he shows interest and capabilities, assuming this is the second stage of competition, means he didnt qualify, and Vik went against the rule.

What is Dua’s status in the competition now, disqualified again after the Indore visit?

From bts ARS gang had stolen the money for Neetu treatment. Maybe Mannat can work in Mezbaani to do Arzoo jasusi. Kill multiple birds with 1 stone 😏

Bold... mujhe yahi lag raha hai ki hoga...

Vik is blind again... Mannat will have to do something 🤦‍♀️

I am not joking when I say Aish is biggest ManVik shipper😜. She will be the reason Mannat stays in Mumbai and be around Vik 😉

Originally posted by: Moor278

Bold... I certainly do not see it this way... he does have his biases... and mostly with Mannat. Just see today's episode and Mannats statement when she first sees Aish/Arzoo. This is what I mean.

Vik has the same bias for Malla... he heard Aish on Mallas phone saying she will destroy Salujas. Malla was at the forefront of the skit which he saw at Police colony and which triggered him and yet when she says she is doing this out of guilt of her previous behaviour... he very easily believes her... knowing fully well what all Malla has done in the past to separate him and Mannat.

Pink... exactly... Mannat has time and again proven it that she doesn't make baseless claims... that she even went to the point of blaming Neetu for drugging him... and therefore Viks reaction should be to ponder over what she is saying.. she has always proven his first instincts wrong. Did he do that???? Thats the distrust he has on her. That inspite of showing so many times, he still needs proofs to believe her... a girl he has decided to marry and had made bold promises to.

Red... he believed it because he himself didnt believe it was what he could have done and it suited his thought process.

Green... wasnt a lie actually... she hid stuff from him. And the audience knows she didnt want to lie at all. So no... wont call this lying from an audience perspective. In the post skit episode when he tells her he has recalled it seems like she is actually about to reveal until Neetu comes and stops her. Later gives a suicide threat.

Blue is what I am saying since so many days... dont know how else to put it again and again... all I want to see is growth and realization in VIKRANT.... I have no expectations from any other character 😆... have never kept them.

Purple is what I said few days ago.... Vik can be BDB only when Aish is around... but Vik cant be Mannats BDB against himself. Thats Duas job 😄

Bold:But @Moor...if there is bias against mannat why he believed mannat when she told him about puneet during freezer incident, there even the proof was against her, even then he believed mannat...the same day Vik didnt trust mannat regarding neetu's drugging incident that day vik didnt trust neetu/ars too when they accused mannat of poisoning the cake... vik also didnt trust rotu when vish said her surrogacy story....as I said his bias is not against mannat or towards anyone, his bias is towards version that is less cruel or has proofs be it anyone in front of him... thats something he has to let go and believe in loved ones a bit more

Pink:Didn't mannat too believed in malla regarding divorce...?, and if mannat actually had decided to leave him even before malla came we can still say that she didn't bother if malla was lying or saying the truth, she just wanted to leave Vik so she signed... But thats not the case, mannat was still expecting vik and still trusted Vik enough to know that he will soften for her maa atleast ..and her trust was right Vik did soften after getting to know about sruti.. but mannat got manipulated by malla by that time.. Why?? Because she is in trauma , just like that on the wedding day Vik too was in trauma..yes Vik had trust issues but he worked on them and reached a point where he blindly trusted mannat....even when vish said so many things against mannat he didn't believe in anything vish said......he said to vish " Main aap pe vishwas nahi karunga, mannat pe bharosa mere liye sabse jyada zaroori hai" But then mannat herself accepted of her lying....which broke him,and his past memories pushed him into immense trauma....he couldn't figure out anything and it's understandable that in such intense trauma where truths were coming one after other one would need time to process things, and once he processed things he went to mannat right?, if he didn't trust mannat, trusted vamps and malla he wouldnt have gone to meet mannat, and he also again wanted to meet mannat just before leap... In these seven years too in his mezbaani confession he accepted his mistakes, his lohri hallucinations also indicates he feels guilty for not trusting mannat and troubling her , with ronnie he agreed he wronged them.. but the reason he is still behaving rudely and not trusting indore gang is because he is acting out of bitterness and trauma, mannat too is scared of vik's anger because she is traumatized with his past anger and therefore doesnt trust him with his actions,even though her heart says something else she cant ignore the harsh reality... Similarly with Vik too his heart trust them but he too was traumatized with their past lies, which they themselves accepted that they lied, so he too can't ignore the harsh reality and can't trust them that easily..

Green:the lie wasn't about vik's birth truth na @Moor,there she just omitted info.....didnt lie...but it's about all the times she lied to Vik regarding her absence from events, situations.. So she did lie.. That's why Vik says baar baar jhooth bola hai tumne.. Because she did lie multiple times as a explanation for her absence..