As long as there are good romance scenes, a couple is acceptable? - Page 11

Originally posted by: Bluehue

it has some good supernatural elements of you are interested.

Oh yes I remember that thing...from the looks of it they both seemed to be unofficially seperated rn.

Okay. I'll try watching. Zee5 app is shit.

From my perspective, her attachment to him seemed unhealthy. She involved herself too much in the show, deliberately tried to undermine his co-actor (even though he had no issues with her), and kept shipping him and Teja (which wasn't helping considering how outraged the fans could get, she should have been the bigger person). While he and Teja were friends before, there was already tension between Helly and Teja, and her actions only made things worse.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Itv is already in dustbin.in the era where people stay in nuclear family itv is teaching woman to stay in toxic family and solve family issues leaving your career. 😄

Just a clarification of one point, do you not feel it's glorification if a couple with red flags is portrayed as being together in a series?

My biggest gripe with YRKKH in both Gen 2 and 4 is that they show all kinds of red flags that should have realistically broken a relationship and just cover it up with a sorry. At least in Generation 3, they showed the lead couple realistically breaking up (and honestly it should have stayed that way and they could have portrayed a healthy co-parenting relationship where a couple is not together).

Originally posted by: theromanticcrap

I think my attachment for Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai has gone beyond just casual watching—at this point, it’s an addiction. It’s not that I believe the writing is flawless or that everything makes sense logically, but the drama keeps me hooked in a way that few shows do. I don’t necessarily need a well-written story to stay engaged; sometimes, the sheer intensity, high stakes, and emotional rollercoaster are enough to keep me watching. Even when I know certain plotlines are repetitive or frustrating, I can’t seem to look away because the chaos itself is entertaining.

I’ve moved past an age where I watch shows just for the romance. Don’t get me wrong—I love a good love story, and strong chemistry between leads definitely draws me in. But I also need something more than just a couple romancing on screen. That’s why, even though I still think Surbhi and KSG have sizzling chemistry, I haven’t felt the urge to watch QH 2.0 or even the Zouk bag ads. Same goes for KRPKAB S3—I saw the disaster coming from a mile away, so I didn’t even bother. The romance just feels repetitive, and I don’t find myself invested in it anymore. With YRKKH, what keeps me engaged isn’t just Abhira and Armaan’s romance—it’s the overall drama. I actually like that their love story isn’t overdone because the push-and-pull, the conflicts, and the gradual emotional build-up make it more compelling.

I don’t mind toxic drama as long as it’s engaging. Of course, I don’t want to see a relationship full of red flags being glorified, but if the flaws are acknowledged and woven into the characters’ journeys—whether through growth, redemption, or even an eventual downfall—it makes for a gripping story. Sometimes, I find myself enjoying the romance despite its flaws because the emotions feel raw and real. It’s not about agreeing with everything that happens on screen; it’s about being emotionally invested enough to care. The tension, the heartbreak, and even the moments of frustration keep me coming back.

And honestly, sometimes the storytelling in YRKKH isn’t even that strong. There are times when the writing lacks depth or relies too much on repetitive tropes, but I still find myself watching. Why? Because even when the script is weak, the drama itself is compelling. Whether it’s messy family conflicts, intense confrontations, or characters making impulsive, emotional decisions, there’s something addictive about watching everything unfold. It’s almost like watching a trainwreck—you know things are going to spiral, but you can’t look away.

That being said, a huge reason I stay invested is because of Samriddhi Shukla and Rohit Purohit. No matter what they are given, they deliver. Even when the writing doesn’t do their characters justice, they manage to elevate every scene. Their chemistry makes even the most frustrating moments watchable, and that’s not something every pair can pull off. I might not always agree with how the story is going, but their performances keep me emotionally connected.

At the end of the day, I know YRKKH isn’t for everyone. Some people might not enjoy the drama the way I do, and that’s completely fine. But for me, as long as it keeps me engaged, I’ll continue watching. It’s not about wanting toxicity in a story—it’s about how compelling the journey is, even when I know it wouldn’t work in real life.

Let's agree to disagree on certain points. I agree that rhey keep serving the same content as people are watching it. Previously, we used to say that the audience is uneducated but now even the coming generations, who are educated and well- aware of toxicity, are subscribing to the same nonsense just because the couple looks hot together.

And entertainment deserves to be criticized, simply not just ignored. Let's not forget the impact of Kabir Singh and Animal. Entertainment promulgates certain ideas and ideals which is why it's dangerous. American sitcoms do get criticized too- the difference is that the entertainment critics are more prolific. Indian media does not do that. ITV should be called out too as it can influence minds- let's not forget that a few years ago, people were wishing for partners like ASR or RK.

Originally posted by: theromanticcrap

TV, especially Indian television, has always been about drama. From the beginning, audiences have shown a clear preference for toxic, over-the-top storylines, and that’s exactly why ITV continues to serve them. It’s not going to change unless the audience itself changes. People might criticize it, but the fact remains that drama sells, and that’s why it keeps coming back in different forms. I enjoy non-dramatic, intense romances too, along with sitcoms and chick flicks, but I know where to find them. If I want that kind of content, I turn to OTT platforms or Hollywood because those industries cater to a different kind of audience.

Entertainment is everywhere, and there’s no reason to limit yourself to just one type. If something doesn’t appeal to me, I simply skip it and move on to something else rather than complain about it. The same thing happens with American TV—look at CW shows, for example. They only cast good-looking actors and pack their series with endless drama, and people over there complain about how exaggerated it all is. But at the end of the day, those shows still have a loyal audience. It’s funny how their movies tend to be more serious and restrained, yet their TV shows go all-in on drama, proving that people do enjoy it, even if they don’t always admit it.

The same applies to telenovelas and other dramatic formats—they cater to a certain audience, and as long as people are watching, they will continue to exist. If someone enjoys that kind of content, they should watch it guilt-free. If they don’t, they can simply skip it. There’s no need to overanalyze or justify what kind of entertainment people consume. In the end, it’s all about what keeps you engaged and entertained.

At the end of the day, entertainment is subjective. Some people enjoy high drama, others prefer subtle storytelling, and many—like me—enjoy a mix of everything. There’s no right or wrong way to consume content, and there’s no need to justify what you like. As long as a show keeps its audience engaged, it has a place in the industry. Instead of expecting TV to change, it’s easier to simply choose what suits your taste and move on from what doesn’t. After all, there’s something out there for everyone—you just have to know where to look.

Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest

Just a clarification of one point, do you not feel it's glorification if a couple with red flags is portrayed as being together in a series?

My biggest gripe with YRKKH in both Gen 2 and 4 is that they show all kinds of red flags that should have realistically broken a relationship and just cover it up with a sorry. At least in Generation 3, they showed the lead couple realistically breaking up (and honestly it should have stayed that way and they could have portrayed a healthy co-parenting relationship where a couple is not together).

No, I don’t find that it’s glorification. I’m in my early twenties, and I know the difference between red flags and green flags. The issue isn’t just what’s shown—it’s how people perceive it. I can watch a movie like Animal, dislike it, and criticize it. Do I think it was necessary? Not really. But it’s being made, and curious people like you and me will watch it. That doesn’t mean I’m going to glorify the characters’ behavior or replicate it in my own life.

We live in a world full of the good, the bad, and the grey. It’s up to us to have the wisdom to choose what’s best for us. At the end of the day, you decide how to take what you see—whether to learn from it (like realizing what you don’t want in a relationship) or to just go along with it mindlessly.

Also, not everyone might relate to this, but people do end up choosing the wrong partners. But some also grow. Watching flawed relationships play out in fiction might actually make someone reflect and change their own attitude toward love and partnership. No relationship is perfect, and no person is a complete ‘green flag’ or a ‘green forest’—those only exist in Instagram reels. If you expect pure green flags in a relationship, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.

People reveal new sides of themselves over time—sometimes even sides they weren’t aware of. At some point, even the most ‘perfect’ partner might show a darker side. That doesn’t mean the relationship is doomed, but it does mean that relationships require understanding, patience, and growth from both sides.

Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest

Let's agree to disagree on certain points. I agree that rhey keep serving the same content as people are watching it. Previously, we used to say that the audience is uneducated but now even the coming generations, who are educated and well- aware of toxicity, are subscribing to the same nonsense just because the couple looks hot together.

And entertainment deserves to be criticized, simply not just ignored. Let's not forget the impact of Kabir Singh and Animal. Entertainment promulgates certain ideas and ideals which is why it's dangerous. American sitcoms do get criticized too- the difference is that the entertainment critics are more prolific. Indian media does not do that. ITV should be called out too as it can influence minds- let's not forget that a few years ago, people were wishing for partners like ASR or RK.

I think I already covered this in my previous comment. Look, we can’t change others, no matter how hard we try. People will continue to think and behave the way they want. So instead of carrying the weight of reforming the world on our shoulders, why don’t we focus on changing ourselves?

If we don’t like the kind of content being made, we can choose not to watch it—or watch it with the awareness that it’s just fiction and not something to be implemented in real life. Indian shows and movies have always propagated patriarchal mindsets, and that isn’t going to change overnight. Education exists, but education and knowledge are two different things. Many people are educated but lack critical thinking. And let’s not forget that a large section of the population is still uneducated, especially among the poor.

India is still developing, and poverty is a harsh reality. With the internet becoming so accessible—thanks to Jio and other affordable services—anyone can consume content, but not everyone is using it wisely. Some are stuck in regressive mindsets, and others lack the awareness to question what they see. That's why the responsibility ultimately falls on individuals to filter what they consume and how they interpret it.

That said, while we may not be able to change everyone, constructive criticism still has its place. Calling out problematic content helps push conversations forward. Change might be slow, but conversations like these are a step in the right direction.

P.S.: To answer your question—Is watching AbhiMaan and their red-flag relationship "right"? No, but that’s not the question viewers like me ask. The real question is whether we can separate fiction from reality, and I can. Watching a problematic relationship on screen doesn’t mean I’d accept or tolerate one in real life. I have no interest in seeking an ‘Armaan’ for myself, and I never will.

Do I enjoy watching them because they look good together? In part, yes, but that’s not the whole picture. When I started watching, I didn’t anticipate the direction the story would take. Now that it has, I continue watching because, beyond the story itself, the performances are compelling. You may not see the appeal, and that’s completely valid. But just as you have the right to critique, I have the right to watch and appreciate it in my own way. At the end of the day, entertainment is subjective.

Why is that not glorification? If something that is wrong as not shown as wrong with the repercussions not being highlighted, how is it not being not glorified? That applies to you, but don't forget that there is other youths who think what is seen on Animal is cool and set their standards based on that.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/telugu-cinema/government-school-teacher-claims-students-are-worse-now-due-to-allu-arjuns-pushpa-films-they-talk-vulgarly-101740386388248.html

^This article is an example of how entertainment affects real world. If you constantly sell a message, it sets the standard.

I think you have the concept of red flag and personality flaws confused. And even green flag. No one is a complete package of green flags but it is not wrong to look for one with many green flags. Flaws in one's personality means that there is a defect they need to work on. Red flag means that there are underlying major personality defects that makes one doomed to fail as a life partner. You should never settle on a partner with red flags.

The problem is media has sold and glorified the concept of women reforming men and turning them from a red flag to a green flag. It is naive to expect that happens in real life. In my line of work, I have met more than enough women who have suffered expecting that their red flags of husbands will change. And even in daily news, there are more than enough articles exposing this.

Finally, as for your part about people changing and revealing new sides of themselves, it means exposing traits that may make a relationship seem incompatible. And partners working to make a relationship succeed. It does not mean turning into a red flag and expecting the other partner to change you.

Originally posted by: theromanticcrap

No, I don’t find that it’s glorification. I’m in my early twenties, and I know the difference between red flags and green flags. The issue isn’t just what’s shown—it’s how people perceive it. I can watch a movie like Animal, dislike it, and criticize it. Do I think it was necessary? Not really. But it’s being made, and curious people like you and me will watch it. That doesn’t mean I’m going to glorify the characters’ behavior or replicate it in my own life.

We live in a world full of the good, the bad, and the grey. It’s up to us to have the wisdom to choose what’s best for us. At the end of the day, you decide how to take what you see—whether to learn from it (like realizing what you don’t want in a relationship) or to just go along with it mindlessly.

Also, not everyone might relate to this, but people do end up choosing the wrong partners. But some also grow. Watching flawed relationships play out in fiction might actually make someone reflect and change their own attitude toward love and partnership. No relationship is perfect, and no person is a complete ‘green flag’ or a ‘green forest’—those only exist in Instagram reels. If you expect pure green flags in a relationship, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.

People reveal new sides of themselves over time—sometimes even sides they weren’t aware of. At some point, even the most ‘perfect’ partner might show a darker side. That doesn’t mean the relationship is doomed, but it does mean that relationships require understanding, patience, and growth from both sides.

Those who says entertainment don't hamper people are staying in some utopia imo.

Especially Indians are so dehati they will do all kinda shit watching serials and movies. Eg some dude in australia stalked a woman and then justified it saying Hindi movies normalised that. We have all sorts of alpha sigma bs thanks to kabir singh, animal, tere naam etc. major south Indian movies have women no role or they fall for shitty men after they behave rudely. Entire generation is going to shit thanks to our media.

Serials are looked down by majority people like you share with your friends co workers you watch this show you will see judgement in their eyes. And for correct reasons have you seen the serials they show? For a female dominated industry it thrives on sadism.

Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest

Why is that not glorification? If something that is wrong as not shown as wrong with the repercussions not being highlighted, how is it not being not glorified? That applies to you, but don't forget that there is other youths who think what is seen on Animal is cool and set their standards based on that.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/telugu-cinema/government-school-teacher-claims-students-are-worse-now-due-to-allu-arjuns-pushpa-films-they-talk-vulgarly-101740386388248.html

^This article is an example of how entertainment affects real world. If you constantly sell a message, it sets the standard.

I think you have the concept of red flag and personality flaws confused. And even green flag. No one is a complete package of green flags but it is not wrong to look for one with many green flags. Flaws in one's personality means that there is a defect they need to work on. Red flag means that there are underlying major personality defects that makes one doomed to fail as a life partner. You should never settle on a partner with red flags.

The problem is media has sold and glorified the concept of women reforming men and turning them from a red flag to a green flag. It is naive to expect that happens in real life. In my line of work, I have met more than enough women who have suffered expecting that their red flags of husbands will change. And even in daily news, there are more than enough articles exposing this.

Finally, as for your part about people changing and revealing new sides of themselves, it means exposing traits that may make a relationship seem incompatible. And partners working to make a relationship succeed. It does not mean turning into a red flag and expecting the other partner to change you.

If you're a 15 y/o then that's the responsibility of their parents, not yours. They are young and young minds should be taught well by their parents. If someone is an irresponsible parent, then it speaks of their parenting. I can't say anything about that. Animal also was 18+. I wasn't allowed into the theatre until I had given my passport for proof. If some kid is forging documents and still going to watch, that shows on their parents. If they are watching on Netflix, then again it's on parents and not me or you. Have better parental controls, maybe? I don't watch south movies, so I don't know the effect south media has on kids there. I'm a north Indian.

P.S.: Also, please don’t come at me without properly reading and understanding my comment. I’m not defending these things—I’m simply sharing my opinion, which I have every right to express.

Originally posted by: theromanticcrap

If you're a 15 y/o then that's the responsibility of their parents, not yours. They are young and young minds should be taught well by their parents. If someone is an irresponsible parent, then it speaks of their parenting. I can't say anything about that. Animal also was 18+. I wasn't allowed into the theatre until I had given my passport for proof. If some kid is forging documents and still going to watch, that shows on their parents. If they are watching on Netflix, then again it's on parents and not me or you. Have better parental controls, maybe? I don't watch south movies, so I don't know the effect south media has on kids there. I'm a north Indian.

P.S.: Also, please don’t come at me without properly reading and understanding my comment. I’m not defending these things—I’m simply sharing my opinion, which I have every right to express.

I am older .. I did not like Animal or Kabir Singh .. and I don’t endorse such kind of toxic partners ( male female ) for anyone

We over play male toxicity but I see more cases of females being toxic , schizophrenic and destroying families

if you see a redflag .. and if there are no children involved please walk out for your mental wellbeing

just to be someone’s therapist in the name of love can destroy your life ..and you end up being just as bitter n toxic .

the days are getting tougher …please remove your rosy glasses and look ahead .. romance only looks good on tv .. in reality you prefer having a boring but sane partner in your life


So save all your romance for 🥤 in tv .. don’t search for it in reality life settle with someone you trust and who shares your interests .. and is similar in your family status and also from your community

marrying too high or low also creates a lot of problems