Why Tere Naam was not labeled as toxic and problematic? - Page 9

Originally posted by: wat_up

tere naam was a hit in most sites and does get talked about and his style was a rage etc as TM mentioned and the songs were blockbuster. The theme was depressing so many didn’t like it and as become a cult classic and were released now it be a blockbuster too. Like some other movies like baazingaar which wasn’t big hit when it came out either but became a cult classic too. A movie being a blockbuster or not doesn’t mean it don’t get talked about this logic makes zero sense. Many movies that not blockbusters in their time in later years become cult classics.

I have no idea what you're talking about because Baazigar was a blockbuster and had the best-selling soundtrack of the year. It was the film that established SRK's stardom and was Kajol's first commercial success, so saying it wasn't a big hit is completely erroneous.

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

I have no idea what you're talking about because Baazigar was a blockbuster and had the best-selling soundtrack of the year. It was the film that established SRK's stardom and was Kajol's first commercial success, so saying it wasn't a big hit is completely erroneous.

That's not true.

The best selling soundtrack of the year 1993 was KHAL NAYAK at number one, with 10, 000, 000 audio cassettes sale, you can confirm it from any online source you like.

Moreover Baazigar was not a blockbuster movie, it was a super hit. The ONLY blockbuster movie of the year 1993 was AANKHAIN. Rest all of the biggest hits of 1993 were just super hits and not block busters, be it Khal Nayak, Baazigar, Darr or Hum Hain rahi pyar ke.

Also the film which established SRK's STARDOM was DDLJ in 1995.

Darr followed by Baazigar in 1993 only cemented his worth as a saleable actor mainly in antagonist roles, until DDLJ happened.

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Someone answered the question no need me to repeat it.

Even Darr was not a blockbuster, Boi just inflates the boxoffice outcomes due to the adjusted net.

I clearly remember reading various esteemed printed trade journals where the trade pandit like Taran Adarsh and komal nahta ranked AANKHAIN as the only blockbuster film of 1993, followed by the second classification of 4 super hits Khal Nayak, Darr, baazigar and Hum Hain rahi pyar ke.

The third classification was Hit (not super hits) which included Anari and Damini.

That's the genuine classification which was officially published in print back then.

Nonetheless Baazigar was a clean super hit (although not a blockbuster).

Originally posted by: sharaban

That's not true.

The best selling soundtrack of the year 1993 was KHAL NAYAK at number one, with 10, 000, 000 audio cassettes sale, you can confirm it from any online source you like.

Moreover Baazigar was not a blockbuster movie, it was a super hit. The ONLY blockbuster movie of the year 1993 was AANKHAIN. Rest all of the biggest hits of 1993 were just super hits and not block busters, be it Khal Nayak, Baazigar, Darr or Hum Hain rahi pyar ke.

Also the film which established SRK's STARDOM was DDLJ in 1995.

Darr followed by Baazigar in 1993 only cemented his worth as saleable actor.

Baazigar was released on 12 November 1993, coinciding with the festival of Diwali.[4] Made on a budget of ₹40 million, the film was declared a blockbuster at the box office with a worldwide gross of ₹320 million.[5] Apart from emerging as a major financial success, the film has become a cult film over the years due to its suspense, story, screenplay, soundtrack and performances of the cast.[6] It was the first collaboration between Khan and Kajol, who went on to become one of India's most iconic on-screen couples. It helped establish Khan, Kajol, Shetty and Malik in Hindi films, and the soundtrack sold over 10 million units, thus becoming the highest-selling album of the year.[7]

Khal Nayak is known for its music, especially the song "Choli Ke Peeche Kya Hai", sung by Alka Yagnik and Ila Arun. The Khal Nayak soundtrack album sold 10 million copies, making it one of the year's best-selling Bollywood soundtrack albums, along with Baazigar.[2] Khal Nayak was released on 6 August 1993, and became the second highest grossing Hindi film of 1993, surpassed only by Aankhen.[3] It received positive reviews from critics, with praise for its screenplay, soundtrack and performances of the cast.

Notice the emphasis on Baazigar selling over 10 million units (one crore plus) whereas Khal Nayak sold 10 million copies, not over it.

And Khal Nayak was also a blockbuster, not just Aankhen.

BOI doesn't have info on Baazigar for 1993 but it does confirm that Khal Nayak and Darr were both blockbusters. Darr was also the highest grossing movie overseas. BOTH Baazigar and Darr were responsible for SRK's stardom in 1993 which was his breakout year. DDLJ is not what established him as a star.

You're also ignoring that in 1995, the same year as DDLJ, SRK also had Karan Arjun. Karan Arjun was released at the beginning of 1995 whereas DDLJ was released at the end of the year but Karan Arjun was the second-highest grossing movie of the year and BOI characterizes it as a super blockbuster. So you can't even argue then that DDLJ's success is what made Karan Arjun a super blockbuster because it came afterwards. How can you have two blockbusters like Baazigar and Darr and a super blockbuster like Karan Arjun and not have stardom?

Originally posted by: sharaban

Even Darr was not a blockbuster, Boi just inflates the boxoffice outcomes due to the adjusted net.

I clearly remember reading various esteemed printed trade journals where the trade pandit like Taran Adarsh and komal nahta ranked AANKHAIN as the only blockbuster film of 1993, followed by the second classification of 4 super hits Khal Nayak, Darr, baazigar and Hum Hain rahi pyar ke.

Nonetheless Baazigar was a clean super hit (although not a blockbuster).

And even if this is true, the original post said Baazigar was not a hit but became a cult film. My point was that such an assertion is completely wrong. Whether it was a blockbuster or super hit, the point is that it was certainly a hit and one of the highest-grossing movies of the year so pretending it was some film that was ignored at the box office and only received recognition later is misinformation and anybody alive during that time could easily correct that. Baazigar was more than a hit so why claim it wasn't at all?

As I mentioned, these online sources inflates the outcomes due to the adjusted net factor.

I am a big Madhuri fan but won't hesitate to say that Khal Nayak was NOT A BLOCK BUSTER, but just a super hit, although it ranked at number 2 just after AANKHAIN.

Baazigar comes at 4th number and was a super hit.

The only blockbuster of 1993 was AANKHAIN, that's it.

The online links most probably just throws away the term block buster carelessly to emphasize the big business, but in reality block buster and super hit are two entirely different classifications.

I wish I would have those printed trade journals (the most authentic source for boxoffice, even till date) to show you the boxoffice classifications by those very well esteemed and known trade pandits.

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

And even if this is true, the original post said Baazigar was not a hit but became a cult film. My point was that such an assertion is completely wrong. Whether it was a blockbuster or super hit, the point is that it was certainly a hit and one of the highest-grossing movies of the year so pretending it was some film that was ignored at the box office and only received recognition later is misinformation and anybody alive during that time could easily correct that. Baazigar was more than a hit so why claim it wasn't at all?

Yeah that I agree you with, ofcourse Baazigar was not just a hit but a clean super hit (not a block buster though). and ranked at no 4 after AANKHAIN, Khal Nayak and Darr for the year 1993.

And certainly was not at all an ignored film, but was lapped up by the cine goers with both hands, and was very much appreciated as well.

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Anjam Darr Tere Naam and Baazigar all played negative roles and their last scene ended with death or ayslum. Salman in his movie promotion clearly stated please do not become my character in the movie, i do not support such behavior or character. And salman never did such movies after that. Vanga movies always show women in the wrong or degraded light. Vanga has no respect for women and it shows in his movies. I am surprised you made this post.

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

You're also ignoring that in 1995, the same year as DDLJ, SRK also had Karan Arjun. Karan Arjun was released at the beginning of 1995 whereas DDLJ was released at the end of the year but Karan Arjun was the second-highest grossing movie of the year and BOI characterizes it as a super blockbuster. So you can't even argue then that DDLJ's success is what made Karan Arjun a super blockbuster because it came afterwards. How can you have two blockbusters like Baazigar and Darr and a super blockbuster like Karan Arjun and not have stardom?

Darr and Baazigar established him as a very saleable actor, karan Arjun, a revenge saga, and a two heroes' film further benefitted him alot.

But he was ESTABLISHED as a SUPERSTAR and a ROMANTIC SOLO LEAD only with DDLJ which he carried forward for the next many years.