If wishes were horses.......... - Page 2

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Wives are entitled to a share in their husband's property— by law— irrespective of whether they are good wives or not. Just like children are entitled to their parents' property irrespective of whether they are good children or not. It's a matter of economic rights, not a prize/reward for being conforming.

I do not invalidate one set of family relations for other. Her attachment to her abusers is toxic and codependent but her attachment to her adult children is very natural. Do our parents stop fussing over us especially if we, as adults, have tough times? No. She is not a good mother or MIL but her worrying about Pakhi getting abused, or taking care of Dimpy, or mourning for Samar is not misplaced lol. That is how any parent reacts.(It is another thing that she is a huge ass hypocrite being an abuser and enabler herself.) More importantly, why is it made to seem like her blood relations are leeching on Anuj, the great? Are her children not his children too?

Like, Malti Devi would have had a problem with Pakhi spending Anuj's money or Samar's widow staying at the Kapadias if they were his biological children? NAH.

The criticism isn't that they are brattish, selfish adults, it's that they impose upon Anuj's money while not being his biological children. Even in your post, it says that any Shah needing help should be helped by Anupamaa with her own money lol.

Edit: if we suppose, for a second, that her adult kids were Anuj's biological kids, would her love for her husband and kids be pitted against each other? She would just be called a bad mother who doesn't know how to prioritise. Which is genuinely her issue lol.

@bold: In the question lies the answer.

So, they are there only for the money? Is it?

That is a bigger problem isn't it? Her Adult, Married Children only want the money from Anuj and care a damn about the relation they share.

How does that work? Anupama (on several occasions, specifically when Pakhi was insisting on her marriage with Adhik and Anuj took the initiative to speak to them) specifically mentioned to him to NOT interfere in her children's life because it is Vanraj and her responsibility.

I couldn't find the larger clip but her is an example:

https://youtu.be/eP-goAH7bcM?si=i5p-eS7ExuxNREbM

As a parent, one has to make children earn their own living isn't it? That is the same with Choti Anu.

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

I am not saying that Anupamaa's children are great or she's a great mother to any of her children. But, I do find it hilarious how she is expected to not at all be concerned with any of her children and their families just because she married Anuj — the only good man in whole world — when apparently she is the third party in his family and shouldn't get a power of attorney in his business. Lol.

She shouldn't help her DIL through a young widowhood and pregnancy. She shouldn't be worried about her daughter getting abused etc all because she is married to Anuj. She shouldn't even mourn her son but coddle Anuj's guilt first because Kapadia empire mein upmaa aur barkha third parties hain nei. (Leave alone the fact that wives do have an equal share in their husband's property by law.)

Shaadi do parivaaron ka milan basically means the woman should not inconvinience the man and his money with her relations lol.

Did Anuj not know that Anupamaa has three grown up children and will have baggage with them before marrying her?

More importantly, are her children not his family too? Is Pakhi not his daughter too? Is Dimpy not his DIL too?

Bhai, ek toh ya yeh bol lo ki joint families are codependent and therefore bad ya toh yeh bol lo ki sirf biwiyon ke relations aake family mein rahe toh problem hain.

Excuse even prerana was married to mr bajaj and had child with anurag basu

But no one ever said prerana married mr bajaj for his millionaire wealth or to give to her kid all bajaj wealth

Because she never ran back everyday to anurag house although she loved anurag basu much more than bajaj initial few years of marraige

Jut because anuj knows anupam has 3 kids that does not mean anupam awill make her ex hubby her saas and her 3 brat kids to waste anuj wealth and enjoy at his expense

Will you spend your salary on your spouse ex and her 3 kids who treat you like filth and grab your collar slap you and use abusive language to you your kid your sister and GK akka etc

Will you keep relation with your wife ex who had EMA with your depressed sister not for love but to take over kapadiya business from you

Are you serious while saying such things?

In todays time a man only bothers about his wife and his kids not his wife ex hubby his wife ex saas sasur or his wife ex kids who are adult and abusive to him his sister his daughter and his GK kaka

I am not my spouse slave to pls her or him what is right i will do if i am anuj kapadiya. Forget me my sister and kid if shahs dare stare at my pets they will be thrown out of my house gate forever. No one treats my family who are my responsibility as shit not even my spouse ex sasural ex hubby or ex kidsex saas etc

And no anupama 3 kids are not anuj family vanraj and anupam both told him they are only vanraj shah kids not anuj kids. Anyways i am not interested in making others kids my step kids as mine specially when i know they are after my wealth and do not love me they are just relatives not my kids or family.

Dimpy can come and stay at anuj house but not permanent. Pakhi and adhik cannot stay at anuj house permanent and have to move separate. Like i said they are not my brother, sister, kid or parents or even neice nephew to stay at my house permanent. If i am anuj no wife or her ex kids can take advantage of me and my hard earned money just because i have no parents, siblings to call my own. All wealth and house only belongs to me and my kids and my sister no one else. Nor am i interested in feeding freely poisonous snakes like pakhi, toshu, adhik, barkha etc at my home. I rather donate my hard earned money to an orphanage than spend on shahs or barkha, adhik, pakhi kind of criminals they will be grateful and give me duaaa not baduaa (I is if i am anuj kapadiya or any other person is anuj)

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Wives are entitled to a share in their husband's property— by law— irrespective of whether they are good wives or not. Just like children are entitled to their parents' property irrespective of whether they are good children or not. It's a matter of economic rights, not a prize/reward for being conforming.

I do not invalidate one set of family relations for other. Her attachment to her abusers is toxic and codependent but her attachment to her adult children is very natural. Do our parents stop fussing over us especially if we, as adults, have tough times? No. She is not a good mother or MIL but her worrying about Pakhi getting abused, or taking care of Dimpy, or mourning for Samar is not misplaced lol. That is how any parent reacts.(It is another thing that she is a huge ass hypocrite being an abuser and enabler herself.) More importantly, why is it made to seem like her blood relations are leeching on Anuj, the great? Are her children not his children too?

Like, Malti Devi would have had a problem with Pakhi spending Anuj's money or Samar's widow staying at the Kapadias if they were his biological children? NAH.

The criticism isn't that they are brattish, selfish adults, it's that they impose upon Anuj's money while not being his biological children. Even in your post, it says that any Shah needing help should be helped by Anupamaa with her own money lol.

Edit: if we suppose, for a second, that her adult kids were Anuj's biological kids, would her love for her husband and kids be pitted against each other? She would just be called a bad mother who doesn't know how to prioritise. Which is genuinely her issue lol.

You cannot have diff riules for ex family and anuj family

Pakhi was abused great

But where was anupama when Malvika was abused by vanraj shah her ex hubby for wealth. Where was she when he trapped her she was watching silently not informing GK or anuj till they found themselves

She can mourn for samar but had no rights to blame anuj for his death. Than maya also was murdered by anupama same way by that logic. Anuj never told come save me to samar

Anupama kids from vanraj are not anuj kids. Vanraj and anupam ahave made it clear. Of course they are leeching on anuj wealth. Only CA and Mlavika has right on that wealth as heirs. Pakhi, toshu and samar or their kids have no right pls read superme court orders on step kids inheritance right this week

Ex husband kids or ex wife kids have no right on a mans business or property or bank accounts etc its announced by supreme court in india and even USa, UK etc have no such laws that ex kids should get wealth.

In USA many person marries 4 times so are you saying his 4 wives have 20 kids from various hubby will get his wealth no not at all. He will have only 3 kids from first 3 wives than only those 3 get his business and wealth. Only his blood kids or adopted kids who are his own will get his wealth after his death and his last wife. Same goes for a wife having 4 hubbys in life time. Will she give her wealth to her 4 hubbys ex wife kids are you real? They are not her kidsher kids are once she gives birth too.

By your logic just because John F keneddy wife married Onassis than JFK wealth should go to onasis kids from ex wife or onasis business should go to JFK JR and his sister? Nope that does not happen in real life at least as per law

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

First of ALL, let this be absolutely (although I have mentioned it in the beginning itself), these are limited to the show, Anupama and based on the instances depicted by her character.

Secondly, I am glad that Barkha's character is being empathised with, which otherwise we have seen utter disdain about.

There is not one dialogue in the show that says she explicitly or implicitly accused Anuj of killing Samar. She did say that she found it hard to face him because Samar died in an unfortunate series of events that involved him— wrong or right— I do find it hilarious how it is expected of her to prioritise Anuj's feelings while she has just lost her literal child— all the while her basic economic rights as his wife are being invalidated lol

I did not like how she disrespected Anuj's affection for Samar at the Shahs. But the woman was literally expected to not mourn her child and make Anuj feel better lol

She is a terrible person but criticism towards her character are so misdirected lol

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

There is not one dialogue in the show that says she explicitly or implicitly accused Anuj of killing Samar. She did say that she found it hard to face him because Samar died in an unfortunate series of events that involved him— wrong or right— I do find it hilarious how it is expected of her to prioritise Anuj's feelings while she has just lost her literal child— all the while her basic economic rights as his wife are being invalidated lol

I did not like how she disrespected Anuj's affection for Samar at the Shahs. But the woman was literally expected to not mourn her child and make Anuj feel better lol

She is a terrible person but criticism towards her character are so misdirected lol

When vanraj told in front of anupama that samar died because of anuj and threw him out she did not oppose

Everything need not be said in doing you can understand who means what

She never allow anuj to mourn when CA left she was saying laugh dance celebrate holi

I mean one rule for her one rule for anuj

Anupama never loved samar she used that boy to fight vanraj as she had no braveness and wanted to look good in vanraj and baa eyes

than abandoned him when he was abused by vanraj and his siblings and baa

I do not believe her crocodile tears for poor samar she used him when alive against vanraj and baa as per me. I only sypmathze with samar in shahs poor boy was used by his mom, than family to earn but never respected or supported in life. But after death all shedding crocodile tears. Samar must be turning in his grave. I do not trust anupama tears or her fake love she do not love samar or anuj or CA or malvika or respect GK kaka or ankush as she claims

To hell with anuj and his feelings no one says she must molly coddle anuj. That cheap man deserves what vanraj and shahs do to him humiltae, hit and thrown out of shahs place. One who never respect or support his parents, sister, kid who have supported him all life 365 days 24/7 does not get respect in world

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

@bold: In the question lies the answer.

So, they are there only for the money? Is it?

That is a bigger problem isn't it? Her Adult, Married Children only want the money from Anuj and care a damn about the relation they share.

How does that work? Anupama (on several occasions, specifically when Pakhi was insisting on her marriage with Adhik and Anuj took the initiative to speak to them) specifically mentioned to him to NOT interfere in her children's life because it is Vanraj and her responsibility.

I couldn't find the larger clip but her is an example:

https://youtu.be/eP-goAH7bcM?si=i5p-eS7ExuxNREbM

As a parent, one has to make children earn their own living isn't it? That is the same with Choti Anu.

My point was women are expected to leave all their baggage, individuality, and personal bonds for their marital families while über rich men spending money on his step kids with his full consent has so many moral qualifications lol. Nobody finds it an issue that a random cousin and his family shows up at the Kapadias because they are related to Anuj. Even Malti Devi is mercenary but she is hailed because she is Anuj's long lost mother who literally abandoned him. But Dimpy aur Pakhi reh jaaye toh Anuj ke paise khatam ho jaate hain lol.

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

My point was women are expected to leave all their baggage, individuality, and personal bonds for their marital families while über rich men spending money on his step kids with his full consent has so many moral qualifications lol. Nobody finds it an issue that a random cousin and his family shows up at the Kapadias because they are related to Anuj. Even Malti Devi is mercenary but she is hailed because she is Anuj's long lost mother who literally abandoned him. But Dimpy aur Pakhi reh jaaye toh Anuj ke paise khatam ho jaate hain lol.

Akush and anuj stayed together in joint family as kids in USA and india

Even barkha stayed with anuj in USA in their joint house

So 25 years plus they have lived with each other as joint family they are not some cousin

Later anuj parents died and they went their own ways like it happens siblings once they get jobs go separate apartment leaving joint family home

They are not at all random cousin - they were one joint family in india and USA both

And ankush dad gave money to anuj dad to start business in india thats why anuj gave ankush business incharge now in kapadiya (like mukesh ambani give his sisters hubby incharge of one part of ambani business) what is wrong in that?

Tata also have given incharge to cousin brother and step brother so they should not give is it? They are related by blood so they should not is it? Usually ppl trust blood family and give them business incharge that they will not cheat and be loyal.

Like that by your logic anuj himself is outsider in kapadiya empire as only Malvika is blood child of her dad. Why is anuj owner of comapny give it to Mlavika whose blood child. Atleast ankush is own blood child of kapadiyas, anuj is adopted Let him give kapadiya empire to Malvika and leave with anupama.whys he making anupama incharge when his dad own blood child there? He was telling lies i am keeper of my sister wealth dialogues now hes made his wife full wealth incharge why? Hes also double faced like anupama only. I know one family adopted a boy as they had no son only daughter he refused dad wealth and said give 100% to my sister, you have given me education thats enough. But anuj is giving his father hard earned wealth to anupama and spending on anupam akids and ex hubby home

Dimpy and Pakhi are not anuj blood relations or joint family in childhood that they can stay permanent and use his money. unlike ankush family

Him missing his meeting or office fr SH drama is problematic.

Him nt stopping anupama when she ignores him & CA is him fearing losing Anu.

Him letng SH getng away with insulting him & nt expecting any apologies or change is toxic.

AK funding them & letng them ++ loot him is clownery.Bt AK spending time with family isn't smthng toxic. Bng engrossed in ur wife while at home isn't smthng to worry abt.MD shdnt hv issues with AK loving upm the mst, hv issues with y dsnt he love himself engh & y is his peace & rt more imp than Anu?

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Hilarious how Upmaa and Barkha are third parties in Kapadia empire lol. And they can only get projects and report to Malavika no less.

Hilarious how Upma is bashed for not prioritising her husbands' family but the husband is being asked to treat his wife, her own children, and even his SIL as "third parties" lol.

You do realise that apart from her ex-in-laws and ex- husband, the rest of the Shahs are related to Anupamaa by a parental relationship and hence are Anuj's step children?

If Anupamaa has duties towards her adopted daughter, Anuj doesn't have any obligations towards his step-children?

Basically, pati ki family biwi ke liye sarvopari par biwi pati ki family me third party lol

Daughter is adopted both by Anupama and Anuj, step children stay with their family and father, moreover, time and again Anupama has warned Anuj to stay away from matters relating to her bio children and reiterated the fact that Mishter Shah is their Pita and anything related to them is his haq.

Anuj has done more than his ‘responsibility’ towards his step children who only treat him and call him an outsider- gave loan to Samar, kept Pakhi in his house without any relation to Kapadia house and gave a job though she doesn’t qualify for it. He even gave many opportunities to Tosu but he failed everytime, still Anuj sponsored his treatment.

He sponsored Samar and Dimpy’s wedding.

He had no obligation to do it but lent money to a new joiner Anupama - that too not a small amount, for getting Shah house back.

You see respect and relationships are a two way street, here its always been a one way and that too for Shahs its like my way ot highway. They don’t think twice before holding his collar and pushing him out of their house which on papers belongs to Anuj anyway.

Also, what is Anupama’s obligation towards Baa Bapuji? This is the second time she will be bringing Baa Bapuji to Kapadis house.

Why doesn’t she give any respect to Malti Devi who is Anuj’s biological mother.

And yes, whatever belongs to a husband equally belongs to his wife, but here Anuj has already made her the sole owner to everything and she simply misuses her powers, is totally neglectful towards their daughter and business, runs to Shah house even if she gets a hiccup,

As for your last line - in this case - Patni ke ex husband ki family Current husband ke liye sarvopari banayi ja rahi hai, zabaradasti ke relations thope ja rahe hain, badtameez Pakhi is staying in Kapadia house and asking the owner to not come infront of her and still shamelessly using his money on her luxury shopping and bossing around - And Madam Anupama has zero time for her current pati, daughter, house and business - what is ideal in real life doesn’t apply in Anupama show - hence this topic and that title, Anupama jaisi dogli aurat ko sudharne ke liye!

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Akush and anuj stayed together in joint family as kids in USA and india

Even barkha stayed with anuj in USA in their joint house

So 25 years plus they have lived with each other as joint family they are not some cousin

Later anuj parents died and they went their own ways like it happens siblings once they get jobs go separate apartment leaving joint family home

They are not at all random cousin - they were one joint family in india and USA both

And ankush dad gave money to anuj dad to start business in india thats why anuj gave ankush business incharge now in kapadiya (like mukesh ambani give his sisters hubby incharge of one part of ambani business) what is wrong in that?

Tata also have given incharge to cousin brother and step brother so they should not give is it? They are related by blood so they should not is it? Usually ppl trust blood family and give them business incharge that they will not cheat and be loyal.

Like that by your logic anuj himself is outsider in kapadiya empire as only Malvika is blood child of her dad. Why is anuj owner of comapny give it to Mlavika whose blood child. Atleast ankush is own blood child of kapadiyas, anuj is adopted Let him give kapadiya empire to Malvika and leave with anupama.whys he making anupama incharge when his dad own blood child there? He was telling lies i am keeper of my sister wealth dialogues now hes made his wife full wealth incharge why? Hes also double faced like anupama only. I know one family adopted a boy as they had no son only daughter he refused dad wealth and said give 100% to my sister, you have given me education thats enough. But anuj is giving his father hard earned wealth to anupama and spending on anupam akids and ex hubby home

Dimpy and Pakhi are not anuj blood relations or joint family in childhood that they can stay permanent and use his money. unlike ankush family

That is retcon. Anuj was intially introduced as an orphan who was adopted and then raised by GK alone after the death of the Kapadias. But that is besides the point. Pakhi is Anuj's wife's blood relation; Dimpy is his wife's own DIL. Thank you for proving my point that the wife is expected to prioritise her husband's relations but if the husband extends the same courtesy to his wife's literal children then it is seen as a con. If Anupamaa does something for Romil, Ankush, Barkha out of her own money, is it seen as leeching? Nah, that's her duty lol.