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Originally posted by: Ashviniv

I don't know the exact Indian penal code or law but aren't there cases where a girl in full consent sleeps with a guy because she believes he is going to marry her or he has made those promises. If then he just dumps her, I think she can complaint it under some form of r*pe. So if this is ok then even under the influence of alcohol when the party is resisting initially and then just gives in wouldn't that also constitute as taking advantage of? Then how is it the mistake of that person be it male or female

Good point ashvi.

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

Arpita can you explain why? Or you can't because the story is yet to unfold? I am ok in that case.

Staying at that party was his mistake, yes. But how the sleeping part is his mistake?

How it is not a rape?

Would you say the same irrespective of genders?

If there was a woman in place of arnav would it still be not called r@pe?

I think Tashi explained it well in her comment. There are very f ed up definitions in place for r*pe in our country and the law goes even worse if it’s a man who is a victim. In this case Arnav was coerced but he ultimately gave in and indulged. While it is extremely disturbing irrespective of genders, proving it as r*pe is going to be near impossible. That’s primarily the reason.

The second reason being Lavanya continued after he responded. Now it’s purely hypothetical and did not happen in the story so we can argue till eternity. But had he walked away, do we feel like Lavanya would still have tried to go all the way forcefully?

For me it is still being taken advantage of with a 100% certainty. The one thing that I am concerned with is that even though he gave in, he was in a compromised state and Lavanya should’ve understood his repeated no and walked away.

Edit - I think I wrote incorrectly in the previous part. His only mistake is getting wasted in an environment like that. Even that can be discounted as misjudgment not mistake.

this is one crazy country,Tashi. Easy solution for everything. 😅

Have you figured this out..

1. Divorce filing frenzy was because he was going to be a dad soon?

2. When do you think he took her to his favorite restaurant?

When he found out he is going to be a dad or when she lost the baby?

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

You have a way with words always. Like you will say everything but still nothing.

So are you confirming here that the actual 'deed' actually happened?

And don't blame us for the boxer obsession, it's all your fault. If you can make la stark naked why couldn't you make arnav stark naked too?Did you got shy arpita?🤣

😂😂😂😂 Yes, I’m stating that Arnav might have very strong reasons to believe it had really happened.

And no, I didn’t get shy. I gave my reasoning above. A quickie. Get things done in a frenzy, pull your underwear back up. 😅🤷‍♀️ I genuinely don’t think he was in a state to have an indulgent session. He was purely acting out on biological urges.

Besides, the one thing you guys are forgetting is that this whole thing was Arnav’s pov and he was seriously wasted. How much of his memory is trustworthy when he couldn’t even hear what la was saying at times 😉😉

This was the way events unfolded in his very foggy mind, leading him to believe he had slept with her because signs are there.

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

Yeah I think I can. I have no doubt that he was taken advantage of. As of this part of the story, the only thing we know for sure is that he was drunk.

I think Tashi explained it well in her comment. There are very f ed up definitions in place for r*pe in our country and the law goes even worse if it’s a man who is a victim. In this case Arnav was coerced but he ultimately gave in and indulged. While it is extremely disturbing irrespective of genders, proving it as r*pe is going to be near impossible. That’s primarily the reason.

The second reason being Lavanya continued after he responded. Now it’s purely hypothetical and did not happen in the story so we can argue till eternity. But had he walked away, do we feel like Lavanya would still have tried to go all the way forcefully?

For me it is still being taken advantage of with a 100% certainty. The one thing that I am concerned with is that even though he gave in, he was in a compromised state and Lavanya should’ve understood his repeated no and walked away.

Edit - I think I wrote incorrectly in the previous part. His only mistake is getting wasted in an environment like that. Even that can be discounted as misjudgment not mistake.

But that is my point, how he could he have walked away when he couldnot even take out his phone from his pockets and was asking L to do that? He was that heavily intoxicated/drugged/drunk. Walking away from someone's grip is next to impossible probably.

Yes it was a misjudgement where he had no clue about the host of the party's true colour/intention.

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

But that is my point, how he could he have walked away when he couldnot even take out his phone from his pockets and was asking L to do that? He was that heavily intoxicated/drugged/drunk. Walking away from someone's grip is next to impossible probably.

Yes it was a misjudgement where he had no clue about the host of the party's true colour/intention.

Originally posted by: Ashviniv

I don't know the exact Indian penal code or law but aren't there cases where a girl in full consent sleeps with a guy because she believes he is going to marry her or he has made those promises. If then he just dumps her, I think she can complaint it under some form of r*pe. So if this is ok then even under the influence of alcohol when the party is resisting initially and then just gives in wouldn't that also constitute as taking advantage of? Then how is it the mistake of that person be it male or female

Now, for men except few countries like Scotland they do not even recognise that a man can be r*ped. Specially south East Asian countries.

Here let’s say if it was a woman even then if she gave the final consent, she will also have to prove that consent was taken fraudulently. And in some cases even for girls it becomes very difficult to prove. Because ultimately consent was given specially if both parties were drunk.

Now capacity of alcohol, how much alcohol was consumed these are points of argument but still establishing it was r*pe (even in case of girl) is debatable.

But would reiterate dr*gs is a different case.

PS:- I would like to add saying he had put himself out there by being present in that party and still continuing to drink, so that’s his fault is not right. It’s like telling a girl, hey you got mol*sted because you were walking alone in the dark or you were wearing short clothes.

Originally posted by: tashi26

yes Ashvini, but we have to understand laws are also made according to the culture of that particular place, like in India if a man has se* with the promise of marriage and then refuses, girl can withdraw consent from this case. This case is considered as consent taken by fraud, so case of rape.

Now, for men except few countries like Scotland they do not even recognise that a man can be r*ped. Specially south East Asian countries.

Now, here let’s say if it was a woman even then if she gave the final consent, she will also have to prove that consent was taken fraudulently. And in some cases even for girls it becomes very difficult to prove. Because ultimately consent was given specially if both parties were drunk.

Now capacity of alcohol, how much alcohol was consumed these are points of argument but still establishing it was r*pe (even in case of girl) is debatable.

Now would reiterate dr*gs is a different case.

PS:- I would like to add saying he had put himself out there by being present in that party and still continuing to drink, so that’s his fault is not right. It’s like telling a girl, hey you got mol*sted because you were walking alone in the dark or you were wearing short clothes.

Arpita, you’ve made my point why it is not rape. He gave in. As you stated before, given the state they both were in it was probably a quickie. So her judgement was impaired too. I am not excusing Lavenya. She did take advantage of his state. But he gave in. Unless she or Manali gave him a drug specifically so La could get him in bed then he bears some responsibility for what happened. That’s all I am saying.

The guys a mess. He is drinking too much. He stays at a party he knows is not a place he should be at. How is that Lavenya’s fault? It’s just that we know her obsession with him. Now, if this is preplanned to drug him and get him in bed then it is rape. But, we don’t know that. Yes, she took advantage of him but he knowingly downed six drinks before hand.

His lapse of judgement to drink too much at a place he knows is dubious is his mistake. He put himself in a frame of mind that would enable him to give in. Obsessive Lavenya took advantage of that in her seemingly altered state and we think we know what happened.

Now, we’re all waiting for the **** to hit the fan. His worst nightmare is coming true only not with Khushi. He seems to have changed his thoughts towards both Lavenya and Manali so some investigation seems to have taken place. Was there ever a pregnancy? If so how or why did it end? Why is he still interacting with them? Why is he concerned that Manali is interfering with Lavenya having a real relationship? How do the photos come in; the blackmailed ones and Khushi’s ones? Waiting with bated breath.

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

this is one crazy country,Tashi. Easy solution for everything. 😅

Have you figured this out..

1. Divorce filing frenzy was because he was going to be a dad soon?

2. When do you think he took her to his favorite restaurant?

When he found out he is going to be a dad or when she lost the baby?

We don’t even know whether there were more people present with them on that particular day or not, it can not be a romantic setting for sure.

But he did figure out that Lunatic and her sidekick were taking him for a ride pretty quickly.

What he did not do in 6 years he did in one month, that is do a full background check on BL. But this righteous man never in his dreams, I guess even till now figured that he was duped by those two bit*hes.

So yeah, anyone in this situation can act out of character like he did.

But having said that it does not mean khushi will have to forgive him, he should have shared his worries with her. But he had been contemplating divorce for months now, so he did not. So their marriage breaking even without that lunatic episode is his fault.