Resurgence | Arshi FF | Thread 2 | thread 3 link posted on page 150 - Page 54

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

Agreeing with you 200%. I have been so angsty towards arnav from the very 1st day, but now i do think we should cut him some slack in the sleeping with witch thing.

Arpita was so right, had the gender been reversed, the discussion would have ended even before it started.

Yes, he wanted an escape but NOT on s*x, yes he decided to let loose in the wrong place, BUT he didin't knew about the nature of the party beforehand. Even then after being so drunk with the slightest hint of la just putting her head on his shoulder, he immediately called manali and himself moved away. Even after being drugged he pushed away that witch so many times, but she kept on aggressively coming again and again on him and still he kept on asking her to call his driver. Does all this count for nothing?

Now imagine all of it with gender reversed.

IT IS RAPE without an iota of doubt.

Also, in the party, he was shocked to see witch taking out drugs, he thought she was always the goody shoes, that means la played her actress part very very well in front of him for all these years. He had no idea about her character till the party. But during the conversation with manali in his office he knew all about her, the affairs, drug abuse, killing other actrsse's careers and all other nasty things. That means he did his research or got to know about it all after her claiming to be pregnant in most probability i.e in the recent past only. May be that is why he said that la and ma have taken him for a ride.

And i think, even if she was preg or may be not, whatever it was, it is sorted now. Because if she was preg even now then the self righteous and hyper responsible man that arnav is, i don't think he would have dumped la in a part like that neither would have behaved with her like that. And most definitely would not have brought khushi back to face a hell like this, where another woman is preg with his child.

My assumption is, may be la has acted of having a miscarriage or abortion...i don't believe she was pregnant at all. As manali said to him that she know things about him, that how back in his hometown an absence of a child is a topic and all, this can only mean that she & la had kept a tab on everything going on in his life for years now, may be even his and khushi's distance and probably thought it is because khushi couldn't have a child and so they very cleverly planned the whole thing and played the pregnant card.

Also if you see the dates, their supposed "sleeping together" happened on 9 oct and she came with "i think i am pregnant" on 8th nov, exactly a month time, so that she could say she missed her dates, took a test and found out.

It was all very well planned and executed.

Saying all this, in way i am cutting him any slack for how cruelly he behaved with khushi before and after. That was literally mental abuse, no doubt in that.

HE IS 200% THE CULPRIT of everything else but in the la episode HE IS THE VICTIM.

Yes I agree that I doubt lavanya is pregnant. That's too much to be true if u consider the dates. Plus as Tashi mentioned if she was pregnant she won't abort as that was a hold on Arnav like they never had before

in hindsight, Arnav's dismissal of lavanya, his discussion with her on his anniversary day, his not telling her about pictures make sense as he must have caught on their duplicity but i doubt he has understood the whole set up

I think he knew of the existence of only 2 pictures.the last ones in khushi's stack.the panchgani ones. La must have even used those photos to play victim with him

But somehow along the lines Arnav has stumbled on to them hence the hatred for Manali and dislike for lavanya

Originally posted by: tashi26

But Arnav was highly drunk, so I think may be did not feel that much uncomfortable 🤔

Hehe but he didn't know he was going to get laid na. So does that mean he was wearing them since morning in anticipation. Ok I think enough about the 'boxers'🤣

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

this can actually be a very serious topic and I knew this was going to come up sooner or later.

It’s proven that the decision making is severely impacted in case someone is under influence. In such a scenario, coercing them into the point of submission, what does that make it? If we leave drugs aside and consider alcohol alone, even then. If anyone is under such duress, would it ever make it consensual even if they end up acting on very biological urges?

For example, drunk people are often confident that they can drive safely. The thing is that their brain is not capable of even assessing their ability to drive. Whether they can actually drive safely or not comes later. It can even be argued in a court whether the act was consensual if one party wasn’t even capable of sound decision making.

Ethically she should’ve moved away given his state because that’s what any decent human being would do. Especially when he let his desire to be away known by telling her and pulling himself away.

Let’s say he didn’t give in later and walked away instead of kissing her back (after repeated attempts btw). Wouldn’t that make Lavanya kissing him repeatedly, forcing herself on her? It’s an easy exercise if we reverse the genders. Had it been a guy kissing a girl repeatedly and she walks away at the end. Is she not violated then?

I would still call it Arnav’s mistake and I might not use a word as strong as r*pe . But he was clearly taken advantage of.

Arpita can you explain why? Or you can't because the story is yet to unfold? I am ok in that case.

Staying at that party was his mistake, yes. But how the sleeping part is his mistake?

How it is not a rape?

Would you say the same irrespective of genders?

If there was a woman in place of arnav would it still be not called r@pe?

Originally posted by: Ashviniv

Hehe but he didn't know he was going to get laid na. So does that mean he was wearing them since morning in anticipation. Ok I think enough about the 'boxers'🤣

We all know Arnav was sure he had se* despite him being in the boxers. So it could be con*om boxers. 😉

God you are right, we are discussing as if the story is “Resurgence of Boxers”. So I will try to stop otherwise Arpita might want to kick me. 🙈

Arpita can you explain why? Or you can't because the story is yet to unfold? I am ok in that case.

Staying at that party was his mistake, yes. But how the sleeping part is his mistake?

How it is not a rape?

Would you say the same irrespective of genders?

If there was a woman in place of arnav would it still be not called r@pe?

I think in case of alcohol even if it was a girl who was a victim if ultimately the consent was given, in any court proving it was r*pe becomes difficult. Obviously you can withdraw consent later, terms like consent by fraud can be established. But that depends on the case. How much alcohol, capacity, many other factors.

But in case of drugs it is R*pe, once it’s established that the victim was dru*ed, no debate there.

That’s just my knowledge. Arpita can explain better.

Originally posted by: tashi26

who knows what all was available at that party, dr*gs, con*om boxers 🤪.

We all know Arnav was sure he had se* despite him being in the boxers. So it could be con*om boxers. 😉

God you are right the story has now become “Resurgence of Boxers”. So I will try to stop otherwise Arpita might want to kick me. 🙈

EK THAA BOXER.

Petition to arpita to change title of the story to this.

24hrs of all this married women being obsessed with a parayee mard's boxer. Sharam karo.

I am not married yet, it is ok for me dream swati.😉 🙈

I just hope arpita willn't mind. Would you arpita?

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

EK THAA BOXER.

Petition to arpita to change title of the story to this.

24hrs of all this married women being obsessed with a parayee mard's boxer. Sharam karo.

I am not married yet, it is ok for me dream swati.😉 🙈

I just hope arpita willn't mind. Would you arpita?

Not paraya mard, he is our Khushi’s mard and then Lavanya tried him to be her mard. So we all are just interested for Khushi 😜

it IS disturbing how much you guys are focused on the make, model and why’s of the boxers 😂😂😂

There is a possibility of a simple case of one putting them on again after the whole thing guys. Remember my last comment? 😂😂😂

Because if he has already accepted in his head that he had slept with her, he must remember the night in bits and pieces. Sorry to disappoint but you’re not getting any more details on boxers then 😂

For once, they have no mystery behind it. You can trust Arnav’s judgement more than my words in this case. I mean the dude does think he slept with her😅

Also, in my head they did not or rather, could not have an indulgent session given their states. Idk what your gutter minds (🤣)are imagining but in my head it had to be a quickie. Y’all wanted no details in there 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️😂😂😂

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

Arpita can you explain why? Or you can't because the story is yet to unfold? I am ok in that case.

Staying at that party was his mistake, yes. But how the sleeping part is his mistake?

How it is not a rape?

Would you say the same irrespective of genders?

If there was a woman in place of arnav would it still be not called r@pe?

I don't know the exact Indian penal code or law but aren't there cases where a girl in full consent sleeps with a guy because she believes he is going to marry her or he has made those promises. If then he just dumps her, I think she can complaint it under some form of r*pe. So if this is ok then even under the influence of alcohol when the party is resisting initially and then just gives in wouldn't that also constitute as taking advantage of? Then how is it the mistake of that person be it male or female

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

it IS disturbing how much you guys are focused on the make, model and why’s of the boxers 😂😂😂

There is a possibility of a simple case of one putting them on again after the whole thing guys. Remember my last comment? 😂😂😂

Because if he has already accepted in his head that he had slept with her, he must remember the night in bits and pieces. Sorry to disappoint but you’re not getting any more details on boxers then 😂

For once, they have no mystery behind it. You can trust Arnav’s judgement more than my words in this case. I mean the dude does think he slept with her😅

Also, in my head they did not or rather, could not have an indulgent session given their states. Idk what your gutter minds (🤣)are imagining but in my head it had to be a quickie. Y’all wanted no details in there 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️😂😂😂

You have a way with words always. Like you will say everything but still nothing.

So are you confirming here that the actual 'deed' actually happened?

And don't blame us for the boxer obsession, it's all your fault. If you can make la stark naked why couldn't you make arnav stark naked too?Did you got shy arpita?🤣