Teri Meri Doriyaann EDT -11 ||DT NOTE P.10|| - Page 114

I would say ke ab angad ke akaal ke against jaana hi daarji ke aankein khol sakte hain. Grandpa 18th century se baahar hi nai nikalna chahte. Indar agar pahla waala indar hain jo bolta tha ke daarji sabko apna puppet banaake rakhna chahte hain, then he should support angad, if angad decides to go against daarji & support sahiba to achieve her dreams.

All this agar jo bacchi sahiba leke aa rahi hain woh indar ki beti nai hui toh. Agar indar ki beti hi hain then koi kuch nai kar sakta for sahiba. Angad pe bhi ab taras aa raha hain bechara, kuch karna chahe bhi toh kya karein kitna against jaaye apni family ka.

Originally posted by: hellodona

Battered woman syndrome. Most victims in real world don't accept they are being abused. Ask me about it. I protected my abuser till I realized it was abuse but then not like I can prove anything.

What even was that reply though? Rape attempt is hurting himself. Waah re writers.

All the major social issues are trivialized in this show or most of the Hindi shows these days. It's a sad state of entertainment

Battered woman syndrome. Most victims in real world don't accept they are being abused. Ask me about it. I protected my abuser till I realized it was abuse but then not like I can prove anything.

What even was that reply though? Rape attempt is hurting himself. Waah re writers.

Yes those replies from her end was to close this debate of was it wrong was it not..

I personally don't like what she said.. it makes no sense to ke .. coz I think kalesh hai to dur raho..

But yes I have also seen women who are okay to accept sincere apology in case of MR and not go to police.. wo log ghar ke bade logo ko bula kar amne samne faisla karvakar decision lete hai.. that also does not make sense to me.. but if the women in question is okay to accept it to cannot to anything..

Idhar serial me to fir bhi attempted to do the action dikhaya .. Anyway.. is serial se kuch bhi expect karna is madness..

Sirf ye accha kiya ke the writers told me with all that convo that serial me peeche kya hua Hai they are aware and usko progression me lakar aage kuch sync me dikhaye nai to bas yahi hai .. aaj kuch kal kuch..

Originally posted by: Vidhi1989

Sabse pahle aap logo ko hi Domestic Violence Law ke bare me kuch pata nahi hai, to makers jo galat shalat dikha rahe hain usi ko aap log sach maan rahe. Is kanun me etne changes aa chuke hain ki is law ke tahat kisi ko right away arrest nahi kiya ja sakta. Dowry ke liye demand ke law me turant arrest kar sakte hain, isliye kai baar women ko ye law use karna padta hai. Jo technically jhooth hota hai par overall dekha jaye to complainant victim hi hoti hai. Khair. Domestic violence ka charge lagane par... Husband-wife ko mandatory 6 months ki counseling ke liye bheja jata hai. Aur chahe shareer par choto ke nishaan ho ya na ho. Nothing matters. Ekdam se jaan se maarne ki koshish ki gai hai, to aisi halat me ek woman hospital me admit padi hogi ya police ke paas jayegi? Aise case me ladki ke parents hi attempt to murder ya dowry ka case file kar sakte hain, aur karte bhi hain kuch cases me. But jyadatar me women ke parents chup hi rahte hain.

Anyway... To us 6 mahine ki couple counseling me Govt Appointed Counselor Shadi bachane par jor deta hai, uska concern victim ko support karna nahi hota. Ulte wo aurat se apne pati ko ek bar aur chance Dene aur pati ko patni ke sath violence na karne ki request karta hai. Is pure process me basically women ko compromise ke liye force kiya jata hai.

Is 6 month counseling se bhi baat na Bane aur women domestic violence case par danti rahe to tab jakar judge me samne mamla jata hai, aur fir judge Visible proof ke basis par koi judgement se sakta hai. Is kanun ke tahat aksar jurmane ke option ke saath short term ke liye jail hoti hai, jise log jurmana bhar kar bach jate hain.

To basically it's a toothless law to protect women.

Domestic violence ka case file karna keval Divorce Proceedings (civil case) me madad karta hai. DV sabit hone (yani 6 month ki counseling ke baad) par women ko aaram se divorce mil jayega. Aur pati se gujare bhatte ki rakam wagairah.

Otherwise... Criminal remedy jaisa kuch nahi milta is case me. That is the reason most women file the case under demand for dowry law against their in-laws. Kyonki DV law unhe koi protection nahi deta!

And.. "yes, visible proof jaruri hain!" Bhale DV ki definition me mental, emotional, financial abuse shamil ho par aap use visibly kaise sabit karengi ki ye abuse hai?

Even maar pitai ke baad case file karne par aap pati se alag rah rahe hote hain.. jis din pitai hoti hai, usi din kisi aurat ke man me case file karne ka khyal aata bhi nahi hai. Bahut baad me wo case file karti hai. To wo medical saboot bhi nahi banwa paati. Aur usually Doctors women ke favor me certificates banate bhi nahi. Medical fraternity women ke against hi kaam karti hai.

Domestic violence ke cases me women aksar hospital nahi jaati, aur Doctor se bhi jhooth bolti hain ki kaam ke dauran fisal gaye the yahi sab. Aur Doctors bhi Maan jate hain. They are not very progressive people out there. Doctor ko jab Tak bataya na jaye ya wo khud aisa report me na likhe to you can't have medical proof... Aur later date me jab jakhm bhar jate hain to tab to koi doctor waise bhi verify nahi kar sakta.

Fir Defence lawyer pati ki or se aise certificates ko challenge karte hain. Tab tak ghaav bhar jate hain to isliye ye sab aasan nahi hota proof karna. Ulte women ki dimaagi halat par sawal khade karne wale certificates pesh kar diye jate hain. Doctors jhuthe mental illness ke kagaj bana dete hain aaram se. Aur Indian family court mental illness ke mamle me modern understanding se nahi old school mentality se kaam lete hain, jahan aise kisi vyakti ko unreliable aur potentially violent samjha jata hai.

Jabki mental illness has nothing to with someone's capacity to differentiate b/w reality and fiction and make them violent (it is related to very specific cases and even then you can't invalidate them entirely).

Yaha par khud hi log mental illness ka majak bana rahe hain ye kahkar ki Sahiba might have it that's why she is accepting abuse. Isse jyada uninformed baate maine aaj taj tak nahi suni.

Psychological trauma aur psychiatric illness me bahut fark hota hai pahli baar.. aur India me violence norm hai, isliye ye bhi exactly nahi kah sakte ki Sahiba is psychologically traumatized in real sense. Jab kisi society me violence bahut acceptable ho to waha trauma ke liye kuch aisa hona jaruri hai jo insaan ke dimag/man ko khud violence lage.

Jis cheez ko ham khud galat nahi samjhte, usse hame kyo bura lagne lagega?

Trauma ke cases me kai baar saalo baad asar hota hai jab ensaan waqt ke saath apni soch aur world view me badal jata hai aur naye sire se apne emotions ko process karta hai to wahi old memories haunt karti hain. Par aisa bhi sabke saath nahi hota kyonki jyadatar log samay ke saath badalte hi nahi.

Isiliye bhi India me violence bhale bahut jyada ho par uska impact sab me ek jaisa dikhta bhi nahi hai. Iska matlab ye nahi hai ki kuch log so called strong hain, kuch weak.. yaha baat ye hai ki jyadatar log violence ko "part and parcel of life" ki tarah dekhte hain, use violence samjhte hi nahi aur we khud bhi violent hote hain dusro ke liye. Ise parents ke case me sabse achhe se samjh sakte hain.

Pahle aap apne parents se harsh treatment pao, aur aisi upbringing ko ideal samjho aur apne bachho ke sath bhi yahi Karo. Aur Ghar me koi aisi upbringing par sawal kare, ise abuse kahe to sab use pagal kahenge. Kyonki jyadatar ko lagta hai ki wo life me kuch behtar kar sake hain to isi maar Peet se!

South asia me women aur children ko maarna peetna, unhe verbally abuse karna, control karna.. ye sab violence nahi balki ise expression of care maana jata hai. Jab tak mamla had se jyada na bad jaye yani Jaan maal ka khatara na ho aur abuse hi abuse ho (jabki normal sense me abuse ke saath 2 display of affection bhi hota hai), aur sexual component bhi jud jaye tab jakar ise violence samjha jayega! Warna nahi.

Rahi baat ek aurat ko uski manmarji ka jivan jeene se rokne ki.. to aisa majority gharo me hota hai. Technically ye violence to hai par India me ise Sanskar kahte hain, violence nahi. Kyonki aisa to court bhi manti hai ki women ko family ke hisab se rahna chahiye, that is the reason ki marital rape abhi tak rape kyo nahi mana jata!

Originally posted by: Ashviniv

All the major social issues are trivialized in this show or most of the Hindi shows these days. It's a sad state of entertainment

Yes.. it's very important to bring that issue here. Battered women syndrome is a real thing! But Indian law ise validate nahi karti UK ki tarah.

Originally posted by: hellodona

Kya hua episode main? Sahiba abuse by Brars ke alawa kuchh aur.

Sign nahi hoga, wohi hoga jo if article main aaya tha. She will ask him a chance, he will give. Maybe she fails and gets kicked out.

Like he keeps saying ke would you trust if it were me?

Are bhai tu uska dukan jalaya to wo aise pagal ke tarah chillaye? Ya uske parivar walo mere kisi ne kuch kiya?

Same with pregnancy.. him questioning here is fine.. family saying kiska baccha and all.. pls..

Plus daarji and all blaming her .. itna kahe sunneka.

Taking that into account I feel sahiba ko hi dedena chahiye divorce..

Originally posted by: Ashviniv

As per him, she hates him for the reception night and isliye daarji ko fasaya in short she hated everyone in that house.

He asked ki tumhe case file kar a hi tha to mere against karati,main to nashe me aaya tha storeroom, tumhare saath "battamiji" bhi ki thi.

Mahan sahiba replies ki if I hated u to main kab ki chali gayi hoti🤪 mere Mann mein tumhare baare mein bilkul bhi hatred nahi hai. And for reception night she says I understand ur pain.u were not trying to hurt me, u were hurting urself. And u apologies to me and Maine Dil se tumhe maaf Kiya because tumhari aankho mein sincerity thi.

In short sahiba is ok with everything. Hume usake liye khoon jalane ki jarurat nahi

That's how they want women in general to be. Pati and sasural wale chahe kuch bhi kare, maaf kar do. Only then you are a good wife & a good daughter in law. Kya pata Santosh and Taiji bhi yehi sikhaye honge Sahiba ko. I have no expectations from that family either!

Garry ne bhale hi plotting ki ho but bande ne bahut sahi kita daarji ke saath. Phir bhi akal nai aaya inko. Anyways I want to see his face, if and when the actual culprit is revealed. Tab kya bolenge sahiba ko🤪

Originally posted by: Vidhi1989

And.. "yes, visible proof jaruri hain!" Bhale DV ki definition me mental, emotional, financial abuse shamil ho par aap use visibly kaise sabit karengi ki ye abuse hai?

Even maar pitai ke baad case file karne par aap pati se alag rah rahe hote hain.. jis din pitai hoti hai, usi din kisi aurat ke man me case file karne ka khyal aata bhi nahi hai. Bahut baad me wo case file karti hai. To wo medical saboot bhi nahi banwa paati. Aur usually Doctors women ke favor me certificates banate bhi nahi. Medical fraternity women ke against hi kaam karti hai.

Domestic violence ke cases me women aksar hospital nahi jaati, aur Doctor se bhi jhooth bolti hain ki kaam ke dauran fisal gaye the yahi sab. Aur Doctors bhi Maan jate hain. They are not very progressive people out there. Doctor ko jab Tak bataya na jaye ya wo khud aisa report me na likhe to you can't have medical proof... Aur later date me jab jakhm bhar jate hain to tab to koi doctor waise bhi verify nahi kar sakta.

Fir Defence lawyer pati ki or se aise certificates ko challenge karte hain. Tab tak ghaav bhar jate hain to isliye ye sab aasan nahi hota proof karna. Ulte women ki dimaagi halat par sawal khade karne wale certificates pesh kar diye jate hain. Doctors jhuthe mental illness ke kagaj bana dete hain aaram se. Aur Indian family court mental illness ke mamle me modern understanding se nahi old school mentality se kaam lete hain, jahan aise kisi vyakti ko unreliable aur potentially violent samjha jata hai.

Jabki mental illness has nothing to with someone's capacity to differentiate b/w reality and fiction and make them violent (it is related to very specific cases and even then you can't invalidate them entirely).

Yaha par khud hi log mental illness ka majak bana rahe hain ye kahkar ki Sahiba might have it that's why she is accepting abuse. Isse jyada uninformed baate maine aaj taj tak nahi suni.

Psychological trauma aur psychiatric illness me bahut fark hota hai pahli baar.. aur India me violence norm hai, isliye ye bhi exactly nahi kah sakte ki Sahiba is psychologically traumatized in real sense. Jab kisi society me violence bahut acceptable ho to waha trauma ke liye kuch aisa hona jaruri hai jo insaan ke dimag/man ko khud violence lage.

Jis cheez ko ham khud galat nahi samjhte, usse hame kyo bura lagne lagega?

Trauma ke cases me kai baar saalo baad asar hota hai jab ensaan waqt ke saath apni soch aur world view me badal jata hai aur naye sire se apne emotions ko process karta hai to wahi old memories haunt karti hain. Par aisa bhi sabke saath nahi hota kyonki jyadatar log samay ke saath badalte hi nahi.

Isiliye bhi India me violence bhale bahut jyada ho par uska impact sab me ek jaisa dikhta bhi nahi hai. Iska matlab ye nahi hai ki kuch log so called strong hain, kuch weak.. yaha baat ye hai ki jyadatar log violence ko "part and parcel of life" ki tarah dekhte hain, use violence samjhte hi nahi aur we khud bhi violent hote hain dusro ke liye. Ise parents ke case me sabse achhe se samjh sakte hain.

Pahle aap apne parents se harsh treatment pao, aur aisi upbringing ko ideal samjho aur apne bachho ke sath bhi yahi Karo. Aur Ghar me koi aisi upbringing par sawal kare, ise abuse kahe to sab use pagal kahenge. Kyonki jyadatar ko lagta hai ki wo life me kuch behtar kar sake hain to isi maar Peet se!

South asia me women aur children ko maarna peetna, unhe verbally abuse karna, control karna.. ye sab violence nahi balki ise expression of care maana jata hai. Jab tak mamla had se jyada na bad jaye yani Jaan maal ka khatara na ho aur abuse hi abuse ho (jabki normal sense me abuse ke saath 2 display of affection bhi hota hai), aur sexual component bhi jud jaye tab jakar ise violence samjha jayega! Warna nahi.

Rahi baat ek aurat ko uski manmarji ka jivan jeene se rokne ki.. to aisa majority gharo me hota hai. Technically ye violence to hai par India me ise Sanskar kahte hain, violence nahi. Kyonki aisa to court bhi manti hai ki women ko family ke hisab se rahna chahiye, that is the reason ki marital rape abhi tak rape kyo nahi mana jata!

I knew some of these. Happened with ine of my cousins. Arranged marriage tha toh she expected they would get to know each other first and then become intimate. But the guy literally jumped on her on SR night. She was upset after bidding her parents and family goodbye, didn't have dinner, was feeling unwell....no consideration. She cried, begged him to stop, he didn't. She was so wounded by it, she felt scared of him. Next day she was trying to stay away and her husband dragged her to bedroom and again the same. He even beat her up with his belt because she resisted. She came home for Ashtomongola and decided she was never going back and she wants divorce. Thankfully her parents and family were supportive. But the guy couldn't handle it and tried to gaslight her like anything! Called her bad wife (wtf!), dramabaaz and what not! He even said this very same sentence verbatim "English novels padh padhke apna sanskar bhul gaye ho!" cause apparently it's not our sanskar to say no to husband. He even said agreeing to marriage itself is consent for s** whenever the husband wants it. The family was supportive and went to doctors and got the certificate. But yes, kuch na hua. That was challenged in court and the guy's family tried to portray her as mentally and physically unfit for marriage. They tried to prove she is abnormal mentally and physically unfit but yeh sab chupake shaadi karwaya gaya tha. His family hurled abuse at the girl' parents like anything ke kaise log hai, beti ko tameez, sanskar nahi sikhaye and all that. It was traumatizing. The divorce proceedings took almost 3 years. And woh bhi end me jaake they settled for mutual because the guy was at the end eager to get rid of her and get a new wife. Warna aur bhi kayin saal chalta. It was some 8-9 years ago and that sister of mine has not remarried even now because she is scared phirse aisa hi na ho. And to be honest, even though I was young back then and didn't know much in details, this incident has scared me off marriage successfully too!

Brar family ka daily schedule leaked:

Roz utho

Sofa pe chai peeyo

Round khade hoke pehle Sahiba ko abuse karo

Sahiba se forcibly maafi mangwao

So jao

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