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Posted: 2 years ago
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The writers have built a house of glass for Akshara and Abhinav.

You throw a stone and it breaks.

It shouldn't be the case. Almost five months ago diehard Abhi fans welcomed the move on. As now it looks as if mission Kasauli was to either settle scores with Abhimanyu or pay back Abhinav for supporting Akshara when she reached a dead end.

The writers haven't rectified their mistakes. During the sacrifice track, the narrative shifted from Khera to Kairav. Importance of sacrifice dimmed in front of loyalty towards Kairav Bhaiya.

Over a period of time topic makers have spoken about trps plunging to 1.8 during the first leap. No one spoke about the quality of execution or Akshara's character graph. The debate was always about right or wrong. Very few members analysed the core reasons.

Similarly during the second leap to justify Akshara's behaviour, a phone conversation made only to Abhimanyu is highlighted.

Why did Akshara lie to Manish Goenka? he never disowned anyone, rather welcomed Abhinav and his great grandson with open arms.She betrayed his trust too.

There are ways and means to inform a hostile ex. Send legal notice to Birlas about Abhir's birth or declare in front of the distract magistrate that biological father washed his hands off.

Akshara's has only one aim in life ie to take away Abhimanyu's rights.

She does not care a damn about the others including Manjiri.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Thx for the awesome and insightful post 👌


Frankly I don't see abhira anymore..there is no abhira , it's akshara and abhimanyu ..



I completely agree on aksharas reasons for giving up on informing abhim..in her own words , she called him plenty of times but he didn't once listen to her ..imo calling was also not required after how he abandoned her after divorce.


As for the identity crisis and stuff , the child whose father divorced his mother before his birth, he will def have tumultuous life..he will be in shock when he learns abt his birth father , probably a bigger shock if he knows why his parents r divorced and how his birth father treated his mother.....


if abhim had known one of his babies is alive , all of aksharas so called sins would be forgiven and forgotten 😆 Matlab akshu must call in again and again and not give up till she sends the msg across...there mummy was getting panic attacks just by seeing aksharas name flashing on the phone screen. Just by chance if she died thinking abhim is talking to akshara again, woh wala murder bhi akshara ke sarr hota

Edited by Krinya - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

@Bold exactly. I believe the same. Both characters are flawed and what they did is totally wrong. Abhi divorcing Akshu was wrong and Akshu erasing Abhi's existence in Abhir's life is wrong.

There are many real-life examples where a couple has gone through painful marriage but still they are mature enough to opt for co-parenting.

Irrespective of what Abhi did on a white day that can only prove him as a bad husband Akshu can marry Abhinav for that but she punished him by taking something very dear to him. She knew how much Abhi wanted to stay with his kid considering his childhood.

If Abhi is expected to follow Akshu on that to know her whereabouts considering Akshu also knew they are mourning 3 deaths could have tried dropping a message if she really wanted to inform him.

She is not angry because Abhi divorced her as it's very common to them. She is angry because he rejected her phone calls. Because her words clearly say "Tumne mera phone kyun nahi uthaya " and she still remembers those words clearly that shows how much it's still fresh in her mind.

I want Abhi to apologize for divorcing her but I want Akshu to apologize for depriving Abhi of living Abhir's childhood. She took his right to be called a father. and made him mourn for his living child.


@bold: Exactly....lol the scene when Akshara wakes up in the hospital in Pathankot after her zombie bus ride, the first thing she imagines is Abhi in front of her chiding her for leaving him and punishing him by hurting herself....lol so they BOTH very well know this about each other - you can call it twisted, toxic whatever but this is their mode of communication. This was after the divorce and Akshara was still very much imagining Abhi in front of her so clearly the divorce didn't really mean anything to her at that point. It is the phonecall which fully flipped her cuz he didn't listen to her.....and she is still stuck there only since she vividly recalls every line of the phonecall. She is ANGRY that he didn't listen to her and she decided she will PUNISH him in that anger....plain and simple. Everything else she is giving as justification is side stuff....her main grudge is that he didn't listen to her on that first phone call and she mostly made up her mind there only that he now doesn't deserve to know about his child. Everything else fell into place with Abhinav tagging along as her caretaker so the choices got easier for her from thereon to appoint him as father to Abhir and her permanent shield against Abhimanyu😆


Apologies will only happen when makers run out of all their filler episodes, so I'm not waiting for any apologies as of now. Abhi atleast shows some moments of realization/regret/guilt from time to time....Akshara shows NOTHING....ZERO. She only gave a token acknowledgement to Manish that maybe she shouldn't have kept father-son apart but it was not even remotely convincing. Her only obsession is with propping up her Kasauli world and she zones out everything else.


I think it will be a mutual apology whenever it happens....I don't think Abhi has some problem in apologizing to her since he was clearly shown regretting that he let her down that day and didn't support her in her weakest moment....but learning about Akshara hiding his child from him has diverted his focus to that now so he is only focusing on how much time he can get with Abhir to make up for what he's lost in 6 years. All they really need is one solid convo beyond their respective insecurities about losing Abhir and they can very well get around to regrets and apologies to each other. But main problem is that Akshara wants to make every conversation about how Kasauli is her life and there is no middle ground for giving Abhi more of a role in Abhir's life.....the least she can do is stop making faces at Abhir-Abhi hugging each other or spending any time together. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

The writers have built a house of glass for Akshara and Abhinav.

You throw a stone and it breaks.

It shouldn't be the case. Almost five months ago diehard Abhi fans welcomed the move on. As now it looks as if mission Kasauli was to either settle scores with Abhimanyu or pay back Abhinav for supporting Akshara when she reached a dead end.

The writers haven't rectified their mistakes. During the sacrifice track, the narrative shifted from Khera to Kairav. Importance of sacrifice dimmed in front of loyalty towards Kairav Bhaiya.

Over a period of time topic makers have spoken about trps plunging to 1.8 during the first leap. No one spoke about the quality of execution or Akshara's character graph. The debate was always about right or wrong. Very few members analysed the core reasons.

Similarly during the second leap to justify Akshara's behaviour, a phone conversation made only to Abhimanyu is highlighted.

Why did Akshara lie to Manish Goenka? he never disowned anyone, rather welcomed Abhinav and his great grandson with open arms.She betrayed his trust too.

There are ways and means to inform a hostile ex. Send legal notice to Birlas about Abhir's birth or declare in front of the distract magistrate that biological father washed his hands off.

Akshara's has only one aim in life ie to take away Abhimanyu's rights.

She does not care a damn about the others including Manjiri.


@bold: Totally agree.


I honestly don't get why discussions get so skewed here into justifying everything with the excuse of Abhi gave her a divorce that day.....what does Abhi giving her a divorce have to do with her relationship with her BLOOD relatives the - Goenkas? She literally walked out on ALL of them, hid the truth of their own grandkid from them over what Abhi did? lol


This leap has such a laughably thin premise in Akshara trying to act like she has no one in the world, so Abhinav became her world in Kasauli.....she had a full on family and a very concerned grandfather searching for her but she willingly chose to push them all away to do this poverty cosplay life in Kasauli....lol as if the problems in her life were cuz she lived in a rich family? lol so creating a random middle class family by deliberately hiding from her real rich family in Udaipur makes for "character growth"? 😆.....lol no, it's escapism pure and simple. Running away from your life's problems cuz you don't want to deal with complications so might as well just lie and create a facade to avoid facing questions.


And yes, the other hilarious part is that she has NO grudges against the Arohi who FIRST called her a murderer that day....lol AROHI is the one who got the ball rolling in calling her Neil ki murderer, then Manjiri did it....but Akshara is COOL with both of them😆. Not a single bad word for either of them....nothing in the zone of calling them egotistic or ziddi or "immature"😆. Nope, apparently only Abhi is about ego and zidd cuz he didn't pick up the phone call.....lol this selective outrage is what makes her reasoning all the more flimsy and then it becomes obvious she is just focusing her grudges/punishment/everything on Abhimanyu when others treated her worse that day.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


@bold: Exactly....lol the scene when Akshara wakes up in the hospital in Pathankot after her zombie bus ride, the first thing she imagines is Abhi in front of her chiding her for leaving him and punishing him by hurting herself....lol so they BOTH very well know this about each other - you can call it twisted, toxic whatever but this is their mode of communication. This was after the divorce and Akshara was still very much imagining Abhi in front of her so clearly the divorce didn't really mean anything to her at that point. It is the phonecall which fully flipped her cuz he didn't listen to her.....and she is still stuck there only since she vividly recalls every line of the phonecall. She is ANGRY that he didn't listen to her and she decided she will PUNISH him in that anger....plain and simple. Everything else she is giving as justification is side stuff....her main grudge is that he didn't listen to her on that first phone call and she mostly made up her mind there only that he now doesn't deserve to know about his child. Everything else fell into place with Abhinav tagging along as her caretaker so the choices got easier for her from thereon to appoint him as father to Abhir and her permanent shield against Abhimanyu😆


Apologies will only happen when makers run out of all their filler episodes, so I'm not waiting for any apologies as of now. Abhi atleast shows some moments of realization/regret/guilt from time to time....Akshara shows NOTHING....ZERO. She only gave a token acknowledgement to Manish that maybe she shouldn't have kept father-son apart but it was not even remotely convincing. Her only obsession is with propping up her Kasauli world and she zones out everything else.


I think it will be a mutual apology whenever it happens....I don't think Abhi has some problem in apologizing to her since he was clearly shown regretting that he let her down that day and didn't support her in her weakest moment....but learning about Akshara hiding his child from him has diverted his focus to that now so he is only focusing on how much time he can get with Abhir to make up for what he's lost in 6 years. All they really need is one solid convo beyond their respective insecurities about losing Abhir and they can very well get around to regrets and apologies to each other. But main problem is that Akshara wants to make every conversation about how Kasauli is her life and there is no middle ground for giving Abhi more of a role in Abhir's life.....the least she can do is stop making faces at Abhir-Abhi hugging each other or spending any time together. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

True I actually expected akshu will at least give Abhi his rights seeing him saving Abhir. But she disappointed me there also.

Akshu lacks many things but the two major things she lacks is Self Respect and Self Control. Since she can not control herself going back to Abhimanyu she got married to Abhinav in order to create a border around her in the pretext of giving abhir a father.

She even stopped singing as if Abhi hears her voice he will find her. I do not see any trauma associated with her singing too. It was all just her way to avoid letting him know about Abhir. Which is really not normal. As as per law, abhim can get his rights but she was preparing for that too even though she was hardly interested in studying it. That itself shows it was a foolproof plan to keep Abhi away from Abhir.

And I am surprised.

1. Akshu was normal even after realizing nav informed Abhi about Abhir. It's more like she wanted abhi to know so that she can tell him toofani rath story which she has by hearted from so long 😆 I guess she felt happy kuch toh kaam aya 😆

Edited by firewings_diya - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: firewings_diya

True I actually expected akshu will at least give Abhi his rights seeing him saving Abhir. But she disappointed me there also.

Akshu lacks many things but the two major things she lacks is Self Respect and Self Control. Since she can not control herself going back to Abhimanyu she got married to Abhinav in order to create a border around her in the pretext of giving abhir a father.

She even stopped singing as if Abhi hears her voice he will find her. I do not see any trauma associated with her singing too. It was all just her way to avoid letting him know about Abhir. Which is really not normal. As as per law, abhim can get his rights but she was preparing for that too even though she was hardly interested in studying it. That itself shows it was a foolproof plan to keep Abhi away from Abhir.

And I am surprised.

1. Akshu was normal even after realizing nav informed Abhi about Abhir. It's more like she wanted abhi to know so that she can tell him toofani rath story which she has by hearted from so long 😆 I guess she felt happy kuch toh kaam aya 😆


@blue: LOL if they ever show her admitting that or someone gets her to admit this in the show, I will be pleasantly surprised 😆.....waise they already kinda showed it indirectly by her admitting in front of everyone that she only has Abhinav in her life to play father to Abhir and baaki koi pati-patni wala rishta nahin.....right after that Manjiri spoke out the obvious that Akshara's actions have forced everyone to live incomplete lives....in order to keep Abhimanyu away from herself, Akshara has left everyone in limbo - herself, Abhimanyu as well as Abhinav.


@red: LOL it was a classic offense is the best defense reaction from Akshara there. Before the truth revelation, she was in bheegi billi mode breaking out in cold sweat at even the throught of Abhi learning the truth but the moment he found out, she switched to offense mode instead and didn't care how he found out but distracted him more by insulting/demeaning him....lol. And right after that, she again went back to panic attack mode in her car. That's the part I don't get why people deny the obvious when it comes to Akshara....she talks big to show off like she's got everything under control that but the moment you look away, she is back to haaye main bechaari, mera parivaar toot jaayega, main sach ko baahar aane se kaise rokun......lol....like 90% of her scenes are monologues about hiding some truth🤡😆. A person who lives in constant fear of hiding a truth from everyone can never really have actual peace in their lives - this is again something Akshara never gets as she plans her Kasauli fantasy land😆

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


@blue: LOL if they ever show her admitting that or someone gets her to admit this in the show, I will be pleasantly surprised 😆.....waise they already kinda showed it indirectly by her admitting in front of everyone that she only has Abhinav in her life to play father to Abhir and baaki koi pati-patni wala rishta nahin.....right after that Manjiri spoke out the obvious that Akshara's actions have forced everyone to live incomplete lives....in order to keep Abhimanyu away from herself, Akshara has left everyone in limbo - herself, Abhimanyu as well as Abhinav.


@red: LOL it was a classic offense is the best defense reaction from Akshara there. Before the truth revelation, she was in bheegi billi mode breaking out in cold sweat at even the throught of Abhi learning the truth but the moment he found out, she switched to offense mode instead and didn't care how he found out but distracted him more by insulting/demeaning him....lol. And right after that, she again went back to panic attack mode in her car. That's the part I don't get why people deny the obvious when it comes to Akshara....she talks big to show off like she's got everything under control that but the moment you look away, she is back to haaye main bechaari, mera parivaar toot jaayega, main sach ko baahar aane se kaise rokun......lol....like 90% of her scenes are monologues about hiding some truth🤡😆. A person who lives in constant fear of hiding a truth from everyone can never really have actual peace in their lives - this is again something Akshara never gets as she plans her Kasauli fantasy land😆

I guess she is the fl so ppl understand her pov only. 🤷

It's beyond my logic how ppl are brushing her deeds under carpet and not seeing other side of the story. Even for this comments there could be many ppl standing in the queue to be an advocate for akshu.

But in the end show hai all characters will be butchered as they need to justify a reason for reunion here abhira reunion is based on this fact that abhi did wrong and akshu did wrong too. When they reunite both has to apologize to each other.

They will never show only one character was wrong as that will ruin the essense of the show and leap. And even the curiosity audience have when they reunite will also have no value if they show only one character has fault as the impact will not be enough to pull new audience.

Now when they reunite both will have list of deeds to apologize for.

😆

Posted: 2 years ago
#28

A very insightful post and a long one! I haven’t really read a long one in a very long time but I finished urs becos the post demands attention! 👏

But, but! There is going to be a but, if not it’s just butter then..😉



Things AbiM should not have done(bold red) & things Akshu should have done(bold black) :

1. Get his emotional quotation get the better of him when dealing with a miscarriage and brother’s death.— Akshu should learn to read the mood of a room. Grieving in private is also a good thing here considering health. he asked Akshu to sit out the funeral to get some space. Space which is very very important when the whole family thinks she is a murderer. Space which everyone needs to grieve(doesn’t need rationale)

2. To not let his mother/gharwale dictate this aspect of his relationship with Akshu
3. Act on impulse to remove Akshu from his life at the first sign of trouble in his family. Start by considering her very much part of his family. — Akshu by learning to adapt to a new family without letting go of her core nature. Agar pregnancy mein khatron khiladi nahi kelni hai tho nahi kelni hai.

4. To assume he can do away with Abhir and not give a rat’s ass about Akshu. That’s not how it works bro! When his own mother has insecurities due to a past, be empathetic to understand how much Akshu has emotional baggage from her past and her own identity crisis (stepmom looks like her bio mom)

5. For not APOLOGIZING or ACKNOWLEDGING FOR BEING A BAD HUSBAND AND A BAD FRIEND TO AKSHU WHEN SHE NEEDED HIM THE MOST. AND THERE IS NO EASY REDEMPTION FOR THIS.

6.Akshu should have informed about the baby’s birth to the family. Period. Through legal, maybe. Through phone to someone else, maybe. Through messenger pigeon, if only! But the lying about the child’s identity until the very last minute, to let the lie take a form of its own. Nah! That’s being selfish. House of cards banake, blaming hawa for destroying it..!
7. Akshu should have had a relationship with AbhiN first before handing over her child to him. To me, this is the most important mistake from her side. Woh ek stranger tha. Agar aapko kisi pe barosa karna hai, do it with ur life first before handing over ur child’s life. She couldn’t trust him enough to tell the truths, start a new chapter, forge a marriage, but decided to hand over her only child to him. That’s carelessness. Kal ko agar patha chala he has a bipolar disorder, and is abusive to children, kya karegi?? Acha hai, he is Acha admi. But that’s a blatant irresponsibility.
8. If her relationship with AbhiN sounds peaceful only becos she gets to be a decision maker in the house, like jam business, homestay business, law ke exam ko beech mein chodna, she is better off being single. Partners sit and talk. Partners decide. And this is not only during a health crisis time. The house belongs to AbhiN as much as Akshu. She should consult him before letting it out for homestays.

I don’t care for her move on period physically, becos that’s between a couple. But she is still stuck in time and looping in AbhiN with her confusion and ability to make a stable minded decision.





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Posted: 2 years ago
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I apologise for replying so late, IRL is busy lol

My replies in blue.


Originally posted by: Ambajee

Things AbiM should not have done(bold red) & things Akshu should have done(bold black) :

1. Get his emotional quotation get the better of him when dealing with a miscarriage and brother’s death.— Akshu should learn to read the mood of a room. Grieving in private is also a good thing here considering health. he asked Akshu to sit out the funeral to get some space. Space which is very very important when the whole family thinks she is a murderer. Space which everyone needs to grieve(doesn’t need rationale)

2. To not let his mother/gharwale dictate this aspect of his relationship with Akshu
3. Act on impulse to remove Akshu from his life at the first sign of trouble in his family. Start by considering her very much part of his family. — Akshu by learning to adapt to a new family without letting go of her core nature. Agar pregnancy mein khatron khiladi nahi kelni hai tho nahi kelni hai.

4. To assume he can do away with Abhir and not give a rat’s ass about Akshu. That’s not how it works bro! When his own mother has insecurities due to a past, be empathetic to understand how much Akshu has emotional baggage from her past and her own identity crisis (stepmom looks like her bio mom)

5. For not APOLOGIZING or ACKNOWLEDGING FOR BEING A BAD HUSBAND AND A BAD FRIEND TO AKSHU WHEN SHE NEEDED HIM THE MOST. AND THERE IS NO EASY REDEMPTION FOR THIS.


I agree for the most part. But I also get that a lot of the behaviour/decisions/choices taken by any character that day was during a very painful time, so emotional reactions are understandable. But what stands out are their beliefs, respect and values they have on which their emotional reaction are based on. For ex, Akshara may have forgiven and forgotten AbhiM and Manjari's behaviour on that day if it was anger and pain alone. But their lack of empathy, blaming, accusations, disrespect etc was not a spontaneous response to pain that came with a realisation and apologies in the days that followed. In contrast, when Abhir's illness came into light, Akshara and Abhinav both blamed each other and said hurtful things but they realised their mistake and apologised soon after. Because they respect each other as a person, consider each other as family, know both of them love and care for Abhir a lot and can understand that the other person is going through the same pain. But in AbhiM and Manjari's case, they never realised it. They continue to hold their pain higher, continue to make Akshara their scapegoat to this day. Even the countless missed calls, messages to hear her out fell on deaf years. If they held her as an equal person in their family and in realtionship, they would have shown higher level of concern and empathy than they did atleast in the days and months that followed.


That was a lengthy example lmaoo


6.Akshu should have informed about the baby’s birth to the family. Period. Through legal, maybe. Through phone to someone else, maybe. Through messenger pigeon, if only! But the lying about the child’s identity until the very last minute, to let the lie take a form of its own. Nah! That’s being selfish. House of cards banake, blaming hawa for destroying it..!

She is being selfish I agree. I didnt understand why she didnt take Gks help either but at this point from what I understand she subconsciously doesnt trust Gks, and believes herself to be a cause of things getting messier, misfortune etc As we see even when she outright says she will never come back to her maika after all the mess of Mimi's bday and Abhi's accident her family stands mute and when she came back for Abhir's surgery everyone's concern was Abhirohi's shaadi over her kid's life threatening condition🤪


I think her dialogue when she is adressing AbhiN's insecurities and behaviour(the scene before he asks her to hold her hand) was, everyone is against her in someway and she is trying to shut up and handle everything on her own but she cant and needs his support. This is when Gks are already on her side for custody. But emotionally they constantly take AbhiM's side.


And most of all once she realised AbhiM, Manjari etc dont care about her wellbeing or care to hear her out, and how easily they threw her out of her life, she feared her son being taken away too. I already talked more about her pov on her fear in my main post. Going back to UP was facing her fear which she was not ready until recently. And her fears have been proved right.


7. Akshu should have had a relationship with AbhiN first before handing over her child to him. To me, this is the most important mistake from her side. Woh ek stranger tha. Agar aapko kisi pe barosa karna hai, do it with ur life first before handing over ur child’s life. She couldn’t trust him enough to tell the truths, start a new chapter, forge a marriage, but decided to hand over her only child to him. That’s carelessness. Kal ko agar patha chala he has a bipolar disorder, and is abusive to children, kya karegi?? Acha hai, he is Acha admi. But that’s a blatant irresponsibility.

Only in ITV and the FLs meet Acha Admi's out of no where lmao. I get you. But from a story perspecive didnt she already trusted him with her life first? By the time she took her decision she lived with him, observed his behaviour, nature, his views etc. He was not a stranger(She probably knew him longer than she knew Abhimanyu when their marriage happened). She saw him take care of her when he had no obligation out of his sheer goodness and tendacy to help people. He said he likes to help because he never had help when he needed or wanted growing up. Having no one of his own and no ambition career wise, he finds his satisfaction in doing good acts(to the point of stupidity as Akshara to this day scolds him for). Then she saw him take care of her child when she couldn't, helped her to get to the hospital, prayed when he doesnt believe in god... All these things define a person. She saw and proposed a selfish offer and he selfishly took it.


8. If her relationship with AbhiN sounds peaceful only becos she gets to be a decision maker in the house, like jam business, homestay business, law ke exam ko beech mein chodna, she is better off being single. Partners sit and talk. Partners decide. And this is not only during a health crisis time. The house belongs to AbhiN as much as Akshu. She should consult him before letting it out for homestays.


I recently watched the mandir confrontation. When she compared AbhiN with AbhiM she took AbhiN's behaviour from when he found out AbhiM as example. She said she was worried that again someone will take decisions on her behalf for her life. But AbhiN talked to her, heard her out and trusted her, didnt judge her. He waits for her to listen what she has to say, listens to her completely, lets her think on her own pace and makes decisions with her. Not on her behalf or rule over her. This is what she means when she means freedom.


Freedom to be herself, no judgements, listen to her completely AKA know the full story and her pov, trust her, and they together decide things. If he disagrees heavily they will argue (like he convinced her for UP when he believed she was wrong and will regret) but on other occasions he supports her even if he disgrees. She does too, she supports his friendship with AbhiM for ex, though she doesnt like it. Cuz thats what supportive healthy realtions are. You disagree but you still support and there are each other na?


I don’t care for her move on period physically, becos that’s between a couple. But she is still stuck in time and looping in AbhiN with her confusion and ability to make a stable minded decision.

Edited by SereneWorld - 2 years ago

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