Pathaan - discussion (with spoilers) - Page 38

Created

Last reply

Replies

394

Views

34.7k

Users

67

Likes

603

Frequent Posters

Clochette thumbnail
The Fun Food Fight Participant Thumbnail Book Talk Reading Challenge - Pride Prose Thumbnail + 9
Posted: 2 years ago

I just quote two paragraphs of the Telegraph article which alludes to an interesting meta-level that goes beyond the fan-level:

"Pathaan is a heist film, a spy caper, an Iron Man spin-off, the masala blockbuster that Johnny Depp never made as well as a wry celebration of Shah Rukh Khan’s magical relationship with Bombay’s film audience over thirty years. There’s a lovely moment early in the film when Shah Rukh’s character tells us his origin story. He was a foundling, he says, abandoned in a cinema hall and raised by the nation. I grinned at the shameless seduction of this: ‘you made me,’ he’s saying to everyone watching, ‘so we’re in this together, no?’ "

and

"Think of the intricate, yet empathetic, genius of this move. Shah Rukh Khan, who is in real life a Pathan, plays an orphan of unknown origin who becomes a Pathan by acclamation. This foundling could be any of us and so, therefore, could Pathan. It’s a mistake to think that Shah Rukh Khan has used patriotism to buy himself a hit. Rather, he has fashioned a non-majoritarian patriotism that lets him be himself and allows his audience to identify with him. For the duration of the film, a twice-born Pathan (Shah Rukh in real life and Shah Rukh in the movie) becomes an Indian Everyman. To carry this off in Modi’s India and within the unforgiving genre of the mainstream blockbuster is a rare triumph."

https://www.telegraphindia.com/opinion/mr-india-in-pathaan-shah-rukh-khan-is-an-indian-everyman/cid/1915970?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tt_daily_twit


Do you see that likewise?

Edited by Clochette - 2 years ago
Clochette thumbnail
The Fun Food Fight Participant Thumbnail Book Talk Reading Challenge - Pride Prose Thumbnail + 9
Posted: 2 years ago

Do you think that it is still out of love for ShahRukh that people go to the theatres watch the movie?

Clochette thumbnail
The Fun Food Fight Participant Thumbnail Book Talk Reading Challenge - Pride Prose Thumbnail + 9
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Jazzkapur

i watched it. It's average movie. I was very happy when this movie got hit becoz i like deepika John srk but when i saw this movie, i'm like 'whats so special in it?'

Yes, indeed, what's so special about Pathaan that it became an All Time Blockbuster earning more than 500 crore nett in India and more than 1000 crore gross worldwide.

What do you think, Jazz? (I guess, you watched it only now, through streaming?)

Clochette thumbnail
The Fun Food Fight Participant Thumbnail Book Talk Reading Challenge - Pride Prose Thumbnail + 9
Posted: 2 years ago

Successful, indeed...but "deadly"? ...for whom?



oh_nakhrewaali thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Clochette

Successful, indeed...but "deadly"? ...for whom?



In case of Chennai Express, The one sleeping next to Meenakshi and New Year, logic

Edited by oye_nakhrewaali - 2 years ago
Clochette thumbnail
The Fun Food Fight Participant Thumbnail Book Talk Reading Challenge - Pride Prose Thumbnail + 9
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Mages

Average film

The main highlight for me Pathaan meets Tiger. No wonder its a BB when 2 KHANS is pesent together. The moment Tiger entry and their convo it was amazing. Salman-SRK chemistry is phenomenal just like decades back

Originally posted by: Jazzkapur

i completely agree with u. It was average. When it got announced that srk deepika John would be in pathaan, i was excited coz i liked all srk-deepika movies n i like all John-deepika movies also but this was a disappointment. Race2, happy new year etc were much better

Mages, Jazz, I read a loooot of likewise comments on Twitter. They even found it less well made than War.

What do you think, made Pathaan that enormous (and surprising) success it had become?

Jazzkapur thumbnail
Visit Streak 365 Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Clochette

Mages, Jazz, I read a loooot of likewise comments on Twitter. They even found it less well made than War.

What do you think, made Pathaan that enormous (and surprising) success it had become?

pathaan hype n buzz was very high that's why it got hit. I found war also average except that tiger Shroff villian plastic surgery twist. Pathaan's plot had no sir-pair. Deepika said 'rakhbeej hawa me failta hai but ek sheher ke border pe vo contain kia jaa sakta hai' what the hell is this supposed to mean? Will John stop rakhtbeej from spreading outside delhi or it will stop automatically? N where did pathaan met that man who was shocked n said 'pathaan tu zinda hai?' in entry scene? N when pathaan was captured by Russia police, he signaled dimple 'tiger is coming for my rescue' when did pathaan got the time to call tiger coz obviously police didn't leave him alone after arresting him. N why can't they say the proper dialogue in the movie to terrorists like John 'if u want a revenge, kill those persons who actually directly did wrong to u n ur wife. Kill that terrorist who shot ur pregnant wife. Or kill that officer who refused to negotiate but there is no point killing innocent people coz then there will be no difference between u n ur wife's murderer'? I never hear this dialogue in any movie.
Clochette thumbnail
The Fun Food Fight Participant Thumbnail Book Talk Reading Challenge - Pride Prose Thumbnail + 9
Posted: 2 years ago

First thanks for replying 😊

There was tremendous buzz because of the long gap between Zero and Pathaan, but that couldn't have given the movie the success with just being average (or even disappointing)...

Logic...Pathaan certainly isn't the first action movie that defies logic (of reality), so yes, with the wind and not crossing the Delhi region, it seems illogical (I don't remember the wind, though, but even air would not retain the virus to spread, I guess).

Pathaan met Raafe the first time, when former was trapped by Rubina after the Besharam Rang song...he is Jim's right-hand man.

It was Nandini (Dimple) who tapped out the message "Tiger on way"...Pathaan (wondering why it had been Nandini who had come) only tapped "y u".

The last argument is a good point. Although, I suppose, that there definitely exist such groups like Outfit X (terrorists for hire).

Jazzkapur thumbnail
Visit Streak 365 Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Clochette

First thanks for replying 😊

There was tremendous buzz because of the long gap between Zero and Pathaan, but that couldn't have given the movie the success with just being average (or even disappointing)...

Logic...Pathaan certainly isn't the first action movie that defies logic (of reality), so yes, with the wind and not crossing the Delhi region, it seems illogical (I don't remember the wind, though, but even air would not retain the virus to spread, I guess).

Pathaan met Raafe the first time, when former was trapped by Rubina after the Besharam Rang song...he is Jim's right-hand man.

It was Nandini (Dimple) who tapped out the message "Tiger on way"...Pathaan (wondering why it had been Nandini who had come) only tapped "y u".

The last argument is a good point. Although, I suppose, that there definitely exist such groups like Outfit X (terrorists for hire).

thanks for clearing my 2 doubts about movie. N if u are active on social media then u should've known that buzz for pathaan was not becoz of gap between zero n pathaan. It was becoz of controversies of pathaan n besharam rang song became very popular n these type of themes n action in a movie + solid buzz attracts the movie going audiences
Clochette thumbnail
The Fun Food Fight Participant Thumbnail Book Talk Reading Challenge - Pride Prose Thumbnail + 9
Posted: 2 years ago

My activity on twitter is rather focused on special events and some people I have in my favourites (I don't follow anyone)...my primary Internet pass-time is the forum here (as I haven't a lot of pass-time...it's mostly in-between other activities)

Related Topics

Bollywood Thumbnail

Posted by: oyebollywood

1 months ago

Tiger Vs Pathaan Shelved Rumours

https://x.com/Rahulrautwrites/status/1931977727328096712

https://x.com/Rahulrautwrites/status/1931977727328096712
Expand ▼
Bollywood Thumbnail

Posted by: priya185

5 months ago

Pathaan 2 script locked shooting starts soon

Pathaan 2 script locked shooting starts soon https://x.com/rahulrautwrites/status/1894275243612803410?s=46 t=gmo_g396jwmtO4eUOAuljw

https://x.com/rahulrautwrites/status/1894275243612803410?s=46
Expand ▼
Bollywood Thumbnail

Posted by: Maroonporsche

5 months ago

Bollywood Thumbnail

Posted by: Maroonporsche

8 months ago

Pushpa 2 - Movie Reviews & BO Discussion (No Spoilers)

https://x.com/Box_Off_India/status/1862881365433176308 https://x.com/NishitShawHere/status/1862849645342564698 can it be pinned ?

https://x.com/Box_Off_India/status/1862881365433176308
Expand ▼
Bollywood Thumbnail

Posted by: Maroonporsche

19 days ago

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".