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Posted: 2 years ago

No sai staying in the same house as guest is compromising her self respect ..

She had left the house saying if Pakhi comes back she won’t stay ..

Now even stepping foot back in the house ..

And infront of her Virat will cohabit with Pakhi .. it is an irreconcilable damage to Sairat relationship in front of public eyes . See I have already accepted virakhi relationship.. children cannot be the be all and end of all relationships


In anupama.. toshu cheated with a face less girl and his family punished him .. and public is accepting it . Regardless of a baby infant losing her father .. for wife’s dignity..


Even if the family loves sai ..so what … she has done so much for them still they forgot about her abd welcomed her killer back with open arms .. in toxic logo ke love ka kya daam . Virat is married to Pakhi .. so there are only 2 ways out .. either Sai gets married to another person .. moves on . Kids learn to accept .. both will regret when truth of both kids come out ..

or Pakhi dies .. Virat divorcing Pakhi is not possible now ..





Edited by msin - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

Episode 617

Not much positivity from my end either... if you guys feel it then well and good for you. Long post.

Dialogue heavy episode... Sway ka expertise needed.😊


Everything is repeat and rehash is my overall impression.

The makers are picking up scenarios from past episodes directly and indirectly and trying to show us that nothing has changed... and yet everything has changed.

V still misunderstands Sai in his fit of anger. People mock us for calling it passion... but that's what it is... a possessiveness that he feels only for Sai. I have never watched Kabir Singh but from whatever I read, I think we can equate V as Kabir Singh.

P is still his 'mature dost' who gives him a listening ear.

And according to V, Sai is naïve enough to never fulfill that but that she can be influenced by people like Jags easily.

Writers have made Sai the most confusing character today.


And yet... with kids in picture.... everything has changed. The mess of their lives has now included 2 sweet kids and hopefully these would be the catalyst that can resolve the matter.... now more than ever.


V-P and Sai-UM scenes run in parallel... so my suggestion to those who watch would be to see them in continuity as dialogues, contrasting views and yet related to each other.


V holds Sai's hand so harshly that it is reminiscent of lunch kaand. Its definitely abusive and for a moment he seems to be seeing her pain. Vinu saves the day by coming in and V leaves her, bites his own hand in frustration. If this is to suggest that he will regret this later, then good 👍🏼

Vinu wants to go with Sai but V harshly asks him to rest. Don't think he has behaved like that with him ever. Sai is soft with Vinu. P is surprised at this. Sai taunts about wife and V looks at her angrily. P gets that an interaction must have happened.

Sai Mohit convo is already discussed. no point in going over. Teams are flipped.


Parallel scenes in progress.

P asks V why he didn't tell her that Sai is alive. He is shocked and I guess for the first time realizes why she might be asking that.

Sai ka breakdown starts, she wonders why V came back in her life... again a confusing statement when she herself was hoping V would come looking for her.

P repeats why didn't you tell me about Sai when I am your wife and I have that haq. Also questions whether she has the haq.

V observes her intently.

P questions V whether he still has feelings for Sai and UM does the same to Sai.

V goes on a diatribe about why didn't she come, blames Sai for going away with Vinu😡. Sai apparently lives a happy life (really Mr. Chavan??? Didn't you see how Gulab treated her?) V tells P that Saavi is Sai's daughter. P gets worried for a moment.

V remarks that Sai was in contact with Jags when she didn't tell him or them... in all that when he mentions Sam... he remembers that Sai called Sam brother, but doesn't mention 'tumhara pati' to P.... how cruel!!!

It may also be a subtle taunt to P which I might be reading too much.... but Sai-Sam bond was genuine and pure... unlike Sam-P bond where she did not consider him her husband 😆. Truth he knows and comes out in a moment of anger.


V is concerned only about Sai-Jags and says he will go mad if doesn't get answers. wants to kill Jags in mad rage. Wonders why Sai doesn't answer anyone? Sai ka core characteristic is intact. She doesn't explain herself. Has never felt the need.


Sai in the parallel scene is telling UM how V has blamed her with Jags. UM says V has fikr and that he loves her.

Sai questions if he had feelings for me, then why did he marry P?

UM very sensibly says, you need to talk.... but both Sai-V have decided not to bring up past. If not for themselves, do it for Saavi. P says only Sai has the right to decide whether Saavi ka paternity to be told to him. V is adamant. He wants to know... maybe because he doesn't believe Sai would do such a thing with Jags and also maybe he still feels that haq to demand answers from her. But yes, at this point, he is questioning Sai and Jags ka closeness but doesn't look like he is assuming the worst. YET!!!


V ka diatribe continues... P is absorbing. If she has any sense, she wouldn't go by his words but the hidden meaning in them.


Sai believes what V felt for her is attachment, not pyaar. He only felt he loved her. His first and only love is P and got married to P immediately and had a kid. Sai remembers the pre wedding vaada. Here's where the fault in the character lies. V has never told Sai in clear terms that the vaada is long gone. Sai inspite of multiple reassurances later, V-P marriage has put her in that spiral again. P is also in her original state where she knew right away that V loves Sai and that she doesn't matter.

P knows everything will change between them. V is the angry bird mode here... says nothing will change between us and Sai se mera koi rishta nahi hai. do not tell anyone that Sai is alive. I had just tried to move on and she came back.

'tum meri biwi ho aur Vinu ki Mumma'

How wrong this will be proved in future.... neither is P his biwi nor Vinu ki Mumma. He is saying this, but we all know it wont happen.... that is either to calm P or said in spite.


Sai accepts to UM that seeing V-P together hurts her tremendously... that he moved on and she is stuck.

How wrong this too will be proved in future. I agree with Sway here, it is a misunderstanding to a massive scale and it is bound to come crashing.

Thik hai... ye dekhne Sai ko CN jaana hi padega.... otherwise the way these two are behaving they have given up on each other. Ego aur dard itna hai ki ye dono nahi baat karenge seedhe tarike se. Somebody has to do the job for them. Surprisingly, it might be P and Jags in this case. 🤪


Precap is same... V going away saying I am going with my parivar... sure... go ahead... you will have to come back for this one sooner or later. Or you will call them yourself.


The kids are definitely the catalyst. I guess P ke Sai antennas will go in overdrive. She might even go for a DNA test secretly if she doubts. Will hide the results fearing for her and Vinu's status.

If the beds are not joined by the time Sai reaches, she will get the idea about V-P dynamics or maybe Ash will do the job in her angry outbursts.


I didn't feel UM was totally wrong in whatever she said. Saavi has the right to know about her father. That's her right and she is a sensible kid. If told nicely, she would understand. I had mentioned this in the initial post leap episodes, that if Sai cannot lie that V is dead, then she should have told Saavi ki "aai baba ka zhagda hua hai, katti hai, vo nahi aayenge" that would have been sensible. By giving her no information, that is just raising hopes in the innocent mind. Now Sai cannot answer, I doubt she ever had answer anyway, if she was not willing to go back to V or was not ready to tell V about Saavi .... to kya plan tha? not for V but for Saavi????

Its not a toy ki Saavi bhul jayegi. As she grows older, the questions would still be raised about her paternity, so how was Sai planning to handle them then? I know Sai doesn't lie, but it would have been better for Saavi ka mental health if Sai had told her that her Baba is no more. Better than giving false hopes.


Vinu is the other one who is going to be the catalyst... I so want that the illegal adoption comes out in open before his parentage is revealed and Sai adopts him. That would be high intensity drama.


The episode was needed before the scene shifts to CN. Now, when Sai goes...she will go as duty.... Mohit ka reaction will give her inkling about the changed perceptions about her. She will be steeled and aloof.

This episode is to create that explosive situation in CN when Sai reaches there. Maybe on Saturday. I want it to happen on Monday.... Navratri ke pehle din ghar ki laxmi aur ghar ki jyoti ghar vapas.... if this is not symbolic, dont know what is.

Somehow only you Roch and sway are able to see the good
Maybe I gave up. I can’t take the crap longer. Pakhi rather Aishwarya is getting on my nerves

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Posted: 2 years ago

Can anyone tell me why was he biting his hand after the forced hand holding when Vinu came to the room. I didn't get that.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: msin

No sai staying in the same house as guest is compromising her self respect ..

She had left the house saying if Pakhi comes back she won’t stay ..

Now even stepping foot back in the house ..

And infront of her Virat will cohabit with Pakhi .. it is an irreconcilable damage to Sairat relationship in front of public eyes . See I have already accepted virakhi relationship.. children cannot be the be all and end of all relationships


In anupama.. toshu cheated with a face less girl and his family punished him .. and public is accepting it . Regardless of a baby infant losing her father .. for wife’s dignity..


Even if the family loves sai ..so what … she has done so much for them still they forgot about her abd welcomed her killer back with open arms .. in toxic logo ke love ka kya daam . Virat is married to Pakhi .. so there are only 2 ways out .. either Sai gets married to another person .. moves on . Kids learn to accept .. both will regret when truth of both kids come out ..

or Pakhi dies .. Virat divorcing Pakhi is not possible now ..





Let’s see what they show. It depends on vinus paternity if the adoption is illegal then it raises doubts but I don’t trust makers or channel anymore. They destroyed it all.

Showing Virat Pakhi and then giving sairat end game ain’t good enough for me now

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Can anyone tell me why was he biting his hand after the forced hand holding when Vinu came to the room. I didn't get that.

Don't know some ppl r saying he was repenting. But i don't think so .

Maybe he felt he lost a chance to break her hand.😂,

As Vinu interrupted them.

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Posted: 2 years ago

We have talked about conceptualization vs execution

Friends here have written about how Virat is supposed to be on paper...& how it fails completely in execution

The same maybe the case with Pakhi. On paper, Pakhi is a woman who loves Virat passionately & unconditionally. She is not a bad woman but highly flawed - who crosses moral boundaries for the one she believes to be the love of her life. If you see, she is like Virat - extreme when consumed by her emotions. Circumstances don't help her either - she is stuck in her emotions for this man - unable to move on & forced to see him falling in love with someone else. In that desperation, she digresses - does awful things, becomes this bitter, petty person. She falls lower & lower into moral & emotional abyss until she does something which lowers her worth in Virat's eyes & also all but destroys her life. That acts as a wakeup call...for change...and she accepts to be Virat's unconditional support irrespective of his love for Sai. Sounds good? I am sure this is what they had in mind for Pakhi - someone who wears her heart on sleeve & is not afraid to risk her emotions. "Junoon aisa ki khud ko jala de" was her tagline...what comes across is craziness, not passion!

Oh Boy! The execution😔. The way her character is written - making her so vile, arrogant - it seems like she has "Karen" complex coupled with delusional syndrome- privileged & determined to have what she wants...in this case, a man she is obsessed with. There is no ounce of humanity, honesty. She becomes cruel & criminal - how can anyone feel sympathetic towards such a person? We can tolerate grave mistakes...but she stoops to destroying lives. Makers don't know how to write grey characters. Or maybe they are forced by TRP pressure - to write ridiculous plots which destroys character arcs.

One of the grey characters I am reminded of is Scarlet O'Hara from Gone with the winds. She too is obsessed with a man - Ashley - long after HE is married, long after SHE is married. She marries different men - all for personal gains, doesn't care about her children. But she is not vile, inhuman. She treats Ashley's wife with genuine respect, truly cares about Ashley.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Read the above post of mine

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Posted: 2 years ago

Agree we are not getting that! I am operating at a place where If sai has to eventually go back to him then he is doing something mahan 😬

How ever he will win her back! Because unlike sruthi track he has given enough reasons to leave him.

I also hope she doesn’t stay in CN. But who knows. 😲

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Svt611

Your analysis is so good actually changes how I viewed the episode and understood the situation. Please tag me next time since it’s sometimes hard to locate your analysis 😊

Thank you so much😍 I will❤️

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Posted: 2 years ago

Beautify described and you have given the right description.

They surely don't know how to write grey characters but it's also true that trp affects the characters and storyline. Characters are a puppet of trp.

They'll flip them and use them according the trp.

That's a sad reality in ITV.

Edited by Swaydheenta - 2 years ago

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