Tum meri biwi ho aur vinu ki mumma - Page 41

Originally posted by: Moor278

@jingles...

I don't want to criticize you. Just replying to your comment. I told you some days back that we are on a different planes.

I am surprised by the opening line of your first comment ki V ke fans ki kami mehsoos ho rahi hai. The reason we interact on this thread and not on EDT is because most of us (including me and Sadhika have been previously indirectly called as blind V fans). We see his character and write long reviews which are taken as support of his abusive behaviour 🙈🙈

That said, I mentioned this to you other day too.

You are giving too much weightage to V-P shaadi and V ke words.

Even in the whole episode, the focus is on that one dialouge, sure... it's important and it changes things. But you also need to read what he doesn't say. Does he himself looked convinced when he said this? No... he said that in anger. What about rest of it that he said to P? Does any of this suggest that he is ready to move on? No... he is not...

And now as per new spoiler if Sai comes and stays in CN, will he, knowing she is alive???

Also, if he was indeed ready to move on, then it negates everything that has been shown post leap. 3 weeks worth of episode cannot be flipped for one line.

And VC is man of pakki zabàn according to him... but the experience of past 600 episodes says, that he does exactly opposite of what he says.

He himself is manipulative but he also gets easily manipulated. So he will be influenced by other factors to not live up to that promise.

Secondly, The marriage is invalid. Bas show main kisi ki complaint ki jarurat hai... and it will break.

Thirdly, agar usne P ko bol diya ki Haan mere man main feelings hai Sai ke liye to aage episodes kaise banenge??? Kyunki filhaal P to positive hai na... she should technically leave him. So this is all to just extend the drama.

Also notice that he doesn't clarify to P if he still has feelings for Sai. He avoids the question. Agar nahi the to clearly bol deta.

So yeah... that dialouge is worse, but don't just focus on it. Read and absorb other stuff from the episode as well.

I have noticed that this happens if you just read WU and not see the actual episode. Things get lost. Mannerisms and behaviour changes how a dialogue is delivered and what it means.

Half of the people here do not watch and come and just rant.

The episodes are not as bad as they seem.

Negative predictions is fine... but my suggestion wouldbe to look at them as V and P... not Aish and NB and don't go overboard. If you keep negative ideas in mind, it spoils the viewing experience because our mind notices only that.

Baki for the sake of this track, as I have said earlier... V is not important currently... it's a P vs Sai story. Montage ke hisab se. He is just there in the background and has no real contribution.

Don't fret over him. Look at the story in broader context.

Anyway, ye log ek din pehle script likh Rahe Hai. Detailing ki ummeed Kam rakhni chahiye.

Hope this is fair enough explanation for your doubts.

"Half of the people here do not watch and come and just rant. "

" If you keep negative ideas in mind, it spoils the viewing experience because our mind notices only that. "

- agree with both

Originally posted by: msin

I agree with this .. how do you forgive someone who is not even understanding where he went wrong ..and why should Sai risk it with Savi

Honest opinion to TOP IT OFF MAKERS are hell bent to show virakhi as married couples. So if I leave the characterization aside they still want V/P married no matter what.

So I hope they let Sai do something else that’s substantial coz Sai wholeheartedly fell for V and it isn’t easy to just fall in love again or move on. You find a purpose in life, nothing wrong in that!

Moor - I read your montage explanation it was awesome to see your perspective from design standpoint!! Loved it! ❤️❤️

Originally posted by: msin

I agree with this .. how do you forgive someone who is not even understanding where he went wrong ..and why should Sai risk it with Savi

I think me you and nethra are almost viewing the story in same lenses... Look all the blames will eventually be directed towards sai... So vanker wants to project that marriage works if only girls compromise with her self respect.. Such a disgusting mysoginistic mindset..

Sai is also highly inconsistent.. When virat was manhandling her she should have shut him by saying if things go further like she would charge physical abuse case on him... Yes why no mention about the crimes both p** and v** commuted by snatching sai's reproductive rights??

V* is unworthy of Sai the minute he chose Pakhi for surrogacy without her consent... His character has been compromised a lots for whatever the reason..

As per updates virakhi scenes are longer... If virakhi is NOT generating much trps then why their scenes are longer.. They are boring together.. Even if Virat continuously blabbering about Sai..

There is a say in Bengali " shak die koto din maach dhakbe " which means " how long one can cover the fish with leaves / spinach.. that line goes to Vanker for covering up something ..

There was a show I user to watch in SP mariyada.. Where the main antagonist was FL's father in law.. This guy tried to molest her and also sleeps with his wife's sister by emotionally blackmailing her.. And that too infront of his wife.. He drew a rosy picture of his family but inside its hell... Even in the end when everything comes out open in the world he again tries to rape his daughter in law.. THE character VIRAT is another milder and sober version of that male antagonist who doesn't introspect about his own deeds.. This guy is totally morally bankrupt..He married to his brother's widow who was the reason for destroying his and his beloved brother's life.. He was burning with jealousy a minute ago later he was giving reassurance to p**..He was planning to move on that should be enough reason for him to stop pestering Sai..

Amazed to see people give justification of V over and over. First some people said oh if V is with pp they will call it out and stop defending him, then it was marriage nahi ho fake ho, then it is sex na ho and move on na karein. Basically everyday more leeway. Just like V gave pp a long rope for every crime. Hadh hoti hai blindly defend karne ki. No matter how irrational and abusive he is, people claim he "loves" Sai and we should root for Sairat happy ending and if audience doesn't they are "critical, negative people" . V is not getting manipulated, he is making choices deliberately. And he is accountable for the consequences. Sai deserves better than a man who chose to bend rules and overlook crimes repeatedly, who couldn't stand by Sai and couldn't stay true to her. Savi deserves better than a pathetic man like V as father and to have even the saaya of CN peeps in her life and upbringing. People rant because they are frustrated by the characterization of V pp and the plot. And reading defense of an indefensible character is only even more frustrating. Vs behavior yesterday of hand holding to leave an imprint is called ABUSE. Period. To see people romanticize and defend the actions of a criminal like V is just so disturbing.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

That's where there is an inconsistency in Sai's character. For the kind of things V & P did, Sai should have got a divorce from V and got custody order for Vinu & restraining order against P.

She was going for the same effectively when she went into incognito mode...which I fully support.

But then V comes back, blames her for whatever transpired. Yet it looked like she would have melted had V not been married. Even yesterday she never mentioned about P's crime and how V supported it. They have conveniently shifted the narrative to V-P-S romantic knot.

Nothing in this show makes any sense - neither the plot nor the characters. Audience also needs to have amnesia.

Sai’s character was butchered massively during and post Shruti track.

This is their BS strategy since Shruti track. They literally flip Sai and all characters then. Even then She was always shown worried for Virat and never told Chavans to lash out on him but still they blamed her n she took it all. Didn’t ever argue.
and everything after is worst n worst.

I was always worried they will do the same now. Just change narrative like in Shruti track, n it seems they r doing it. Strong Sai ka lolipop dikha k ab abuse chalega. GR n all issues of village will be forgotten.

If they repeat Shruthi BS now for Sai's character, I don't know what to say.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

If they repeat Shruthi BS now for Sai's character, I don't know what to say.

Her reasoning for Virakhi yesterday strongly indicates that. Basically just like we had to forget Shruti was a Nax*l n she suddenly became this adarsh woman we have to forget everything PL did.

It’s bizarre! Sai lost two babies cause of her! TWO BABIES! But they are back to stupid Vada jaap n she says Virakhi were lovers n she came inbetween, thats her issue!! Really?? If it came with why she felt that way, becoz Virat supported PL unconditionally, forgive her massive crimes, choose PL over her, I would have understood but she went back to Vada.
Is this some kind of a joke?? I am amazed how casually they change narrative!

Now everything is reset back to starting point. Just like many guess when montage released, its nothing but role reversal.

if they never want to address such matters then why show such extreme kaands by PL or Virat! Make it some MU! This team is so pathetic and have no sincerity towards their own characters or story.

I mean Two babies were lost! Its so frustrating they are whitewashing PL agin and shifting blame on Sai for Vinayak Death!

Originally posted by: Moor278

@jingles...

I don't want to criticize you. Just replying to your comment. I told you some days back that we are on a different planes.

I am surprised by the opening line of your first comment ki V ke fans ki kami mehsoos ho rahi hai. The reason we interact on this thread and not on EDT is because most of us (including me and Sadhika have been previously indirectly called as blind V fans). We see his character and write long reviews which are taken as support of his abusive behaviour 🙈🙈

That said, I mentioned this to you other day too.

You are giving too much weightage to V-P shaadi and V ke words.

Even in the whole episode, the focus is on that one dialouge, sure... it's important and it changes things. But you also need to read what he doesn't say. Does he himself looked convinced when he said this? No... he said that in anger. What about rest of it that he said to P? Does any of this suggest that he is ready to move on? No... he is not...

And now as per new spoiler if Sai comes and stays in CN, will he, knowing she is alive???

Also, if he was indeed ready to move on, then it negates everything that has been shown post leap. 3 weeks worth of episode cannot be flipped for one line.

And VC is man of pakki zabàn according to him... but the experience of past 600 episodes says, that he does exactly opposite of what he says.

He himself is manipulative but he also gets easily manipulated. So he will be influenced by other factors to not live up to that promise.

Secondly, The marriage is invalid. Bas show main kisi ki complaint ki jarurat hai... and it will break.

Thirdly, agar usne P ko bol diya ki Haan mere man main feelings hai Sai ke liye to aage episodes kaise banenge??? Kyunki filhaal P to positive hai na... she should technically leave him. So this is all to just extend the drama.

Also notice that he doesn't clarify to P if he still has feelings for Sai. He avoids the question. Agar nahi the to clearly bol deta.

So yeah... that dialouge is worse, but don't just focus on it. Read and absorb other stuff from the episode as well.

I have noticed that this happens if you just read WU and not see the actual episode. Things get lost. Mannerisms and behaviour changes how a dialogue is delivered and what it means.

Half of the people here do not watch and come and just rant.

The episodes are not as bad as they seem.

Negative predictions is fine... but my suggestion wouldbe to look at them as V and P... not Aish and NB and don't go overboard. If you keep negative ideas in mind, it spoils the viewing experience because our mind notices only that.

Baki for the sake of this track, as I have said earlier... V is not important currently... it's a P vs Sai story. Montage ke hisab se. He is just there in the background and has no real contribution.

Don't fret over him. Look at the story in broader context.

Anyway, ye log ek din pehle script likh Rahe Hai. Detailing ki ummeed Kam rakhni chahiye.

Hope this is fair enough explanation for your doubts.