GHKPM daily episode discussion thread #68 - Page 118

1. Sai did the right thing by not informing V about Savi. It's good that you observe her flaws. But you fail to understand a mother's fears. She was mentally tortured in CN, her kid was forcefully given to Pakhi inspite her reservations. After all revelations, V didn't think of protecting his own son from Pakhi and chose to let go of Sai. You think any mother in her place will actually volunteer to inform about their kid to the father...he who didn't bother about the safety of his first born?

2. Kids who grow up in villages usually grow this way..more with nature. It's very different from the way urban kids grow. The reason Savi is so open and carefree...similar to how Sai had grown up. It has nothing to do with parenting. Kids tend to adapt to the environment in which they grow. Staying in a village or metro is a personal choice, not parenting issue.

3. Again, why every onus of giving information is with Sai...why an IPS is assumed to be incapable of getting information of his dead kid n wife post the breaking news of an accident.

It's not what audience loves in characters , it is just the perspective of the characters you chose to highlight or ignore.

It's difficult for me to accept a ML , an honest, brave IPS doing what he is shown to be doing. Both things contradict.

And NO , I don't see myself in Sai as I belong to big joint family...hence I don't connect with CN or their blind bias. Rather I can feel Sai's insecurities as a wife and fears as a mother.

A man that loves his wife will never be ok with the woman who wronged her the most being in his life in any capacity- let alone as wife/mother to his children. A man who loves his wife would not dishonor her and violate her dying wish which was that pp should not live in CN. A man who loves his wife would not agree to get married to anyone else and choose to be alone like Pulkit did for a long time and Kwmal Joshi did till his death . A man who loves his wife would raise a child alone having seen examples of single parenting before. A man who loves his wife would not withhold the identity of that person from his child. A man who loves his wife would not get rid of every memory of hers- not even a photo that is garlanded. A man who loves his wife would not give up on her so easily and not even physically visit hospitals etc before assuming shes dead. A man who loves his wife would be seen feeling guilt ridden if his last words to her were that she is a bojh, samjhauta, orphan, etc.

Forget wife, he didnt even love his jeeva. He would never marry his brothers widow and dishonor his memory knowing she LUSTED over him. She never had pure intentions and no amount of redemption on her part can rid the boundary that should exist between her and him even physically apart from emotionally.

He is allowing her to do sacred rituals as a wife! No man who loves his wife would allow another woman to perform sacred and auspicious rituals in a jodi with him. No man who loves his wife would share his bedroom with another woman.

So this whole thing of him still not moving on, remembering Sai even while he has "married" pp and given her the identity of his wife and mother of his child publically irrespective of circumstances is an utter sham. The only thing perhaps is that deep inside him, he has a teeny tiny bit of conscience that must be trying to tell him that he is an insensitive, cruel, horrible jerk and so in order to quell that voice inside him and gain sympathy, feel self righteous - he is channeling this facade of being alone, aggrieved despite having a happy family.

He is a kind of masochist. Gets gratification out of being miserable.

He did the same thing throughout the MU pre Sai 2nd accident and the same thing in Shruti track.

He loves to sail in two boats and then play mahaan when he gets called out for it blaming everyone and circumstances but not himself.

If he truly moved on after grieving his wife, its fine. People die. Life cant stop. But then there should be no hypocrisy.

If he couldn't move on, he would live with Sai's memories forever and never give her place in any way- even on paper to another woman and lead them on, keeping the woman tied to him/family/child even if the woman agrees or suggests it herself.

He knows by now that there is no scope for deal/contracts/clauses/conditions in a marriage. He did the same with Sai and he knows the outcome. So if he chose to get married it should be all in or not at all

There is absolutely no excuse for him even pretend marrying pp. Whether thats for child, adoption, pp being mentally ill, family pressure, Sai coming in his dream and telling him to move on, etc etc- absolutely NOTHING justifies his current stance.

Does he want to pretend to be "happily" married in front of his child?! Is there anything more disgusting. Isnt is easier to just be honest with the child that he doesn't have a mother.

Offscreen equation is the biggest reason this cringe has been introduced. Because even without this marriage angle there is enough and more scope for a soap-opera type dramatic, angst filled, MU waala plot

Off screen equation is the biggest reason that many audience members are legitimately speculating about how much more cringe will happen. And it will. Its impossible that unprofessional people would let this opportunity up to spite the fans who only exist because of Sairat and now are watching for the 2 cute kids

Trp will definitely going to increase.My mom & aunts told me they are liking the current track especially kids scenes.

Originally posted by: Spicyfood

Trp will definitely going to increase.My mom & aunts told me they are liking the current track especially kids scenes.

This week was only Sai n kids so i hope it increase.
It is when virakhi is revealed n established more we will know.. But again makers have got trick, of diverting tracks so they can show what they want to. If trp cripples they will focus on goonda n Jagtap that part more n Virakhi will grow in background.

Originally posted by: gaurimisha

1. Sai did the right thing by not informing V about Savi. It's good that you observe her flaws. But you fail to understand a mother's fears. She was mentally tortured in CN, her kid was forcefully given to Pakhi inspite her reservations. After all revelations, V didn't think of protecting his own son from Pakhi and chose to let go of Sai. You think any mother in her place will actually volunteer to inform about their kid to the father...he who didn't bother about the safety of his first born?

2. Kids who grow up in villages usually grow this way..more with nature. It's very different from the way urban kids grow. The reason Savi is so open and carefree...similar to how Sai had grown up. It has nothing to do with parenting. Kids tend to adapt to the environment in which they grow. Staying in a village or metro is a personal choice, not parenting issue.

3. Again, why every onus of giving information is with Sai...why an IPS is assumed to be incapable of getting information of his dead kid n wife post the breaking news of an accident.

It's not what audience loves in characters , it is just the perspective of the characters you chose to highlight or ignore.

It's difficult for me to accept a ML , an honest, brave IPS doing what he is shown to be doing. Both things contradict.

And NO , I don't see myself in Sai as I belong to big joint family...hence I don't connect with CN or their blind bias. Rather I can feel Sai's insecurities as a wife and fears as a mother.

I think you said the same thing the other day too but that thread was closed so I couldn't reply, I am just putting out that everyone can freak out and find flaws in every character every day

I don't want to do that, I see flaws in every character

1) Sai as a mother is right but hiding is not right, the right thing to do is get divorce and file for custody, I have said I don't support Sairat since Virat threw her out of the house, she lost respect the day she returned claiming rights of a wife

If she says she doesn't want to go back to Virat and hates his guts, I support her there and I'll cheer for her when she gets him arrested for domestic violence

But, she is not doing it, I can't kee crying about it as the show is progressing everyday

2) I live in a village and my family won't allow me to roam freely in street when I was 5, let alone in a jungle

3) IPS not finding Sai is his fault, Sai not informing him is her fault

Originally posted by: gaurimisha

1. Sai did the right thing by not informing V about Savi. It's good that you observe her flaws. But you fail to understand a mother's fears. She was mentally tortured in CN, her kid was forcefully given to Pakhi inspite her reservations. After all revelations, V didn't think of protecting his own son from Pakhi and chose to let go of Sai. You think any mother in her place will actually volunteer to inform about their kid to the father...he who didn't bother about the safety of his first born?

2. Kids who grow up in villages usually grow this way..more with nature. It's very different from the way urban kids grow. The reason Savi is so open and carefree...similar to how Sai had grown up. It has nothing to do with parenting. Kids tend to adapt to the environment in which they grow. Staying in a village or metro is a personal choice, not parenting issue.

3. Again, why every onus of giving information is with Sai...why an IPS is assumed to be incapable of getting information of his dead kid n wife post the breaking news of an accident.

It's not what audience loves in characters , it is just the perspective of the characters you chose to highlight or ignore.

It's difficult for me to accept a ML , an honest, brave IPS doing what he is shown to be doing. Both things contradict.

And NO , I don't see myself in Sai as I belong to big joint family...hence I don't connect with CN or their blind bias. Rather I can feel Sai's insecurities as a wife and fears as a mother.

I completely disagree.there is a thick line between being free spirited and being stupid.5 year old kid does not roam like that in villages.i can say that I live in village in my childhood.my parents never allow any children to go to forest type of area.As it's dangerous.

Neil's interview he said Virat's not aware his patni and daughter exist hence the blissful life they're all having or something like that. So that's how they're gonna go with this, since he doesn't know Sai is alive it was okay for him to move on with Pakhi? They won't show that even if she was really dead how wrong it was for him to pick the one woman who tortured Sai and was his jeeva's widow?

I just saw an old clip where after Sai's accident Pakhi walks into her room with flowers and taunts him for taking care of his patni and he tells her to go out sternly. So has he forgotten all that? How absolutely disrespectful and cruel she was towards Sai?

Pakhi herself accepted she tried to snatch Sai's pati and kid from her in front of everyone! Have they all forgotten that? It's like a rapist who rapes a girl goes to jail comes out and gets married to his victim so all is forgiven and forgotten. How is this fair? Pakhi getting everything in life she conspired for? (I don't care whether Vinu loves her or Virat hasn't slept with her) THIS IS EXACTLY what she wanted to be 'kept in Virat's life in whatever capacity'.

Why should Sai go through the hassle of informing those who couldn't care less about her. Why should she invest time, resources and money into legal battles rather than rebuilding her life, career and focusing on her miracle pregnancy and miracle child. She is emotional about the whole issue as well and extremely vulnerable. Despite everything she still cares for V, loves him because unfortunately theres no off button on her feelings. And unlike V she honors the past of that relationship even though its really over because in her heart/mind she can never move on fully. A small oart of her thinks of the "what-ifs", the dreams built in her head. Unlike V she doesn't lie to her child or pretend things are all hunky dory and there is a happy family waiting for her. She avoids the issue but at least she doesn't lie or paint a picture of pretense/fake ness. She is being raised as a free spirit with her curiosity, and innocence intact. I dont think Savi is wandering in "jungles". She is in a rural background with the inherent risks that presents like snakes etc just like in a city it maybe motorvehicles/traffic. Savi is an incredibly popular kid who is recognized and treated well by pretty much every villager who adore her. Sai has not allowed her bitter experiences or prejudices to get over protective, stifling or block Savi's own thought process and world view from developing. She lets Savi be her own person and when Savi is old enough she will also address this father issue.

The one issue where they have gone overboard is showing Sai allow JM near Savi.

Originally posted by: Spicyfood

Trp will definitely going to increase.My mom & aunts told me they are liking the current track especially kids scenes.

I have partially addressed this in my post on the episode.

Sai still is stuck on that day when she left CN. She hasn't moved. She is angry with him, but deep down has feelings for him.

Whether Sai would have returned if V had come looking for her is debatable. She herself may not be able to answer that question accurately. After the accident she would have been really vulnerable with so much intense emotions and mourning for her lost baby. So it could have gone either ways. Maybe she would have given in considering she was going to be a mother and the way V would have apologised and repented. It is subjective.

But now, it is not just what happened between them when she left, but the fact that V did not even bother to look for her after the accident. Which proved her fears right that he didn’t really care for her, and whatever he said and she derived from it was correct. So her anger is manifold.

Now it is all the more difficult for him to prove her otherwise.