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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: inlieu

Why should he get his happy ending? If he does something wrong he must face the consequences.

People have opinion that he must get happy ending 😆 as if she leaves Raghav, he will be back to his former sad self , his relationship with Amma will get sour blah blah.


Even though he has cheated on Pallavi and she is innocent party , people care more about his feelings and future than hers , cool 🥱.


More than giving choice to P , it’s about wish to not see Raghav suffer much that Max don’t want separation. Which imo is very shallow and sad !


This our my observations , no offence to anyone in particular.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: inlieu

So it seems like most people would have the same reaction and have highlighted the importance of a woman prioritizing her self respect/dignity. Some are saying that even if it's revealed later on that Esha took advantage of him or that nothing happened that night, they wouldn't find his other actions forgiveable or redeemable. Same if it's proven that he did the deed indeed.

My question to you all is when Pallavi does finally forgive him (because that's how ITv works and because Sandip promised us Raghvi staying together), how would you react? Would you be able to support her, connect with her, accept her decision?

Would you feel differently if Esha taking advantage or trapping him is proven later? Would you still advocate Pallavi considering him to be a cheater and leaving him?


PS this is why fan interference has handicapped the writers, where now because of the pressure of keeping leads together they are forcing them to stay together in circumstances where logically and morally speaking they should be separated (temporarily or permanently).


Since I hv answered that I personally wont be able to forgive RR for certain things , let me answer dis.


First of all , I hv stopped being connected to Pallavi since Mandar track only. So whats der to lose connect ?


Second thing .....I hv also stated this previously in some other thread.....forgiving or not forgiving is a personal choice. Its upto the person. I hv known people in real who hv given their partners a second chance after they hv cheated on them. And those women I know are strong and independent . While I dont completely understand them , I do respect them still and my perception of them hasnt changed. Its a big life changing decision and nobody other than the person in question can decide whats ryt or wrong for them. So the same goes for Pallavi. Whatver she decides , it doesnt change who she is .


Second question....even if Esha says she took advantage of the situation....what then ? See I dont consider RR a cheater as of yet. But I cant let go off things he has done or is doing. Like consiously getting drunk wid an ex who still harbours feelings for you in a hotel room. I cant let go off the fact that he chose to not come out clean immediately. I cant let go off the fact that he brought her home.

One more thing....he says that he still had feelings so all this happened. That means he somewhere subconsciously thinks of it as a possibility. I cant be okay wid dt either.


Honestly I dont think fan interference is doing all the damage. Directors and writers dont know how to take the story forward. Also people can alwys ignore fans. A lot of directors and makers do. As long as they believe in their own product, there is no need to pay heed to fan reactions

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Posted: 4 years ago
#73

I don't think R ever said he still has feelings for E especially romantically. Yes I don't approve at all of his indiscretions and infidelity. Till now that part of his actual adultery is kept grey. But assuming he was physically intimate and committed adultery there are many instances in real life believe where whether it is wife or husband if adultery is committed yet they continue with the marriage yes the marriage suffers but if love is there then it becomes easy. Now R emotional involvement with E is the issue which I think this track will address. Because R even after break up had strong emotions of hate for E which on her disclosure and especially R seeing abusive husband of E got converted into sympathy empathy and concern, very difficult situation for R.imagine if E was not his Ex but only friend and there was a major mu between then which got cleared later on. I feel R binge drinking with E can never be condoned and P was right in calling Whiskey has her sautan. But we need to see how R and P deal with all this mess. R should confide in P before she comes to know from 3rd party. He tried too but P had headphones....the situation is messy. E is not a good character because she knowingly plunged into it even after R was remembering his wife P. Now with loaded information of R and P marriage being a compromise marriage E os going to try to snatch R from P. But I feel every time R will tell her about his love for P. Even in the precept E saw confession of R love for P and good she experienced it to understand she is past and R loves P only. I know we all are having difficulty in digesting the whole track. Only if makers could have not showed infidelity and only suffering of E of domestic violence all of us would have hailed this track but slas.



We need to give TRP to the show for SaiShi...so please on your TV don't watch but on it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: inlieu

If we talk about reality, she should have walked away soon after the wedding and not give him any chances.

I'm glad that you agreed to it. Thank you. She does not deserve such a toxic person for a husband.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: fria319


But some couples can move past infidelity. For some people, that is the better solution. This solution is also reality. That's how a lot of couples tackle these kinds of situations. It just takes a lot of hard work. And it's not easy at all, it requires a lot of commitment, a lot of making up by the spouse who was in the wrong, etc. But people do it all the time. If the love is worth it - and that's up to the individual who was hurt to decide - then it may be worth salvaging the relationship.


It's very easy to end a marriage. It's not easy to stick through the issues and the hurt and come out stronger. And even then, some people don't. They put in the work and they can't get over what happened - that's fine too. My point is just that not everyone can so easily let go of their spouse because they made a mistake.


There's no one solution to the issue. In Anupama - she left her husband and that was the right decision for her. That doesn't necessarily mean that's the right decision for Pallavi. Or it could be, we don't know.

@ bold- I'm not against issues.

I was the first person to defend Raghav's anger issues. His mistakes are forgivable only till a limit. Pallavi is not some toy to bear the burden of his mistakes especially of breaking the martial boundaries.

I'm against tolerating infidelity. I'm a person who believes that even thinking about your ex's happy memories under a happy marriage is an act of infidelity. Feeling emotional, spending a night a Nd stuff without the other person's knowledge is anything but worth loving.

Will you say this if Pallavi hid stuffs about Mandaar from Raghav? Will you say this if Pallavi shared a drink with Mandaar without Raghav's knowledge? Will you say this if Pallavi said she got emotional? Will you say this if Pallavi woke up beside Mandaar the next morning thinking that she slept with him and hid the entire incident from Raghav?

If it's unacceptable for her, then it's unacceptable for him.

@blue- It's not one solution. There's no solution to this issue. Forgiving is easy but forgetting is not. The question is on the trust. Cheating creates more psychological insecurities to the person who got betrayed. No matter how hard they try, there will be a point where they won't give their 100% in trusting the relationship like they did previously. And when a person is not giving 100% in their commitment, they will doubt every small things, they will go through so many emotional complexities and trust me; it is better to unlove them than to live with that emotional scar.

Any mistake can be forgiven but not cheating. Cheating is another kind of betrayal.

In real, most of the people survive the marriage because they have nowhere to go. (Such are the family members of the woman)


Again if Pallavi chooses to forgive, then it should be for herself and not him.

Edited by -abz- - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: Radiant_Eyes_

Couples can move past infidelity, true , but that process is long and painful. Like you mentioned requires lots of hard work, commitment and communication .


Do makers have time to show all that in same detail they have shown EsGhu ? Do makers have expertise to handle such sensitive issues and time to show the coping up process ?


No . They will simply make her forgive him after lousy apology in 2-3 episodes , which is not at all realistic tbh.


That’s why separation, even if temporary is need of hour. That’s easy way in ITV world to see Raghu and, especially Pals thinking about their relationship and personally what she feels and want .


More than this , I feel it’s quite shallow how people and makers (via Raghav) are mainly focused on physical infidelity part and not on his behaviour with Pallavi , more than night in warangal, I want P to take a break and leave him for way Raghav continuously gaslights , disrespects and lies to P.


He is only feeling guilty about night he spent with Esha but does he even realise how harsh he is behaving with P? Will he atone for that ? Or it will be swept under the carpet ?



Like usual with MHRW policy of ,

Multiple mistakes , one sorry , Image

& then Raghvi kya karte hai 2.0 ?


Since makers have shown P break to point where she questions why she is undesirable to R, I’d like them to address it and re-build her confidence , with or without RR.

CVs have destroyed a wonderful story. That's what they did.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Wallflowers

I will just leave him. And will tell him to be with his ex happily. Jao khush raho uske sath aur mera peecha chod do.

Apni life se durr fek dungi, my self respect is greater than anything. I will have much better and happy life.

Yo my jaane Mann. 🤗

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Posted: 4 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: unicornwriter

Raghav chose to be what he is today. He chose to use that hurt to drive him towards success. Ge got a closure that night but isn't that closure supposed to make him move on. Rather he sat there, with her, breaking promises over promises. Initially wordy promise of never drinking again, then a promise of loyalty in wedding so yes he chose that too.

People make choices and the result is what explains if they were right or wrong. I won't go into depth of Amma's failed parenting cause yes it was. I sometimes try to understand if Pallavi hadn't been the bridge between this mother son duo, they wouldn't have been having the moments that they have now because duh it's obvious that they both are pretty egoistic in their own terms.


Of course Pallavi does not have a cctv camera neither a mic installed around Raghav at all times. Hence, all she has is her gut feeling, the amount of understanding that she has of Raghav's body language and her insticts that tells her that her husband is worried, stressed or acting wierd.

Emotional infidelity in simple words is defined as, “relationships that break the boundaries of marriage or other monogamous love relationships but that don't become, or at least initially are not, sexual.” But partners must determine for themselves what it means to break a boundary in their relationship.

Raghav has constantly been having thoughts about Esha before the closure and also after. Instead of focusing on how to tell the truth to his wife and come clean to her, we're watching him running around trying to save Esha, pull out security for her, find a house.

Just few hours, he just needs a few hours out of his Esha world to sit and have a chat with his wife. Fine if he's fearing the hurt he won't confess the truth but at least not let her feel humiliated or worthless. He can at least assure her that the stress or pull off is not because she's not good enough. A sense of security for God's sake.

Bang on Sama!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: Joyness

I don't think R ever said he still has feelings for E especially romantically. Yes I don't approve at all of his indiscretions and infidelity. Till now that part of his actual adultery is kept grey. But assuming he was physically intimate and committed adultery there are many instances in real life believe where whether it is wife or husband if adultery is committed yet they continue with the marriage yes the marriage suffers but if love is there then it becomes easy. Now R emotional involvement with E is the issue which I think this track will address. Because R even after break up had strong emotions of hate for E which on her disclosure and especially R seeing abusive husband of E got converted into sympathy empathy and concern, very difficult situation for R.imagine if E was not his Ex but only friend and there was a major mu between then which got cleared later on. I feel R binge drinking with E can never be condoned and P was right in calling Whiskey has her sautan. But we need to see how R and P deal with all this mess. R should confide in P before she comes to know from 3rd party. He tried too but P had headphones....the situation is messy. E is not a good character because she knowingly plunged into it even after R was remembering his wife P. Now with loaded information of R and P marriage being a compromise marriage E os going to try to snatch R from P. But I feel every time R will tell her about his love for P. Even in the precept E saw confession of R love for P and good she experienced it to understand she is past and R loves P only. I know we all are having difficulty in digesting the whole track. Only if makers could have not showed infidelity and only suffering of E of domestic violence all of us would have hailed this track but slas.



We need to give TRP to the show for SaiShi...so please on your TV don't watch but on it.

The point is they showed it. And Raghav is now a zero in the denominator.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: -abz-

My questions at the moment.

What will you people do if your partner cries about his ex after a few months or years of your successful relationship? What will you do if he keeps her memories only to cry about it in front of you?

What will you do if your partner spends some time with his/ her ex without your knowledge?

What will you do if your partner said he had a soft corner for his ex and justifies that as a reason to cross the boundary despite being in a relationship?

What will you do if he broke the promise he made for you when he was with his ex?

Forgive and cuddle him?

How about pulling a sweet revenge…paint the town red and hold every man’s attention…unrealistic and I won’t do it neither would I advocate but if people can expect her to forgive him and accept him then before that I would also want her to have her share of fun…

But will Raghav be ok with it???

Edited by Anu1975 - 4 years ago

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