My Question to Janta. - Page 6

Originally posted by: Radiant_Eyes_

I can say same thing for P too but then hero of story won’t get his happy ending , yikes !

Why should he get his happy ending? If he does something wrong he must face the consequences.

So it seems like most people would have the same reaction and have highlighted the importance of a woman prioritizing her self respect/dignity. Some are saying that even if it's revealed later on that Esha took advantage of him or that nothing happened that night, they wouldn't find his other actions forgiveable or redeemable. Same if it's proven that he did the deed indeed.

My question to you all is when Pallavi does finally forgive him (because that's how ITv works and because Sandip promised us Raghvi staying together), how would you react? Would you be able to support her, connect with her, accept her decision?

Would you feel differently if Esha taking advantage or trapping him is proven later? Would you still advocate Pallavi considering him to be a cheater and leaving him?

PS this is why fan interference has handicapped the writers, where now because of the pressure of keeping leads together they are forcing them to stay together in circumstances where logically and morally speaking they should be separated (temporarily or permanently).

Originally posted by: Inese_20

I am just arranging a surprise for Abi for whenever she visits next 😌🤣

More than Abi it's us who're in aww of this.

🥺🥺🥺🥺

My baby heart ❤

Originally posted by: unicornwriter

And to the people that say that why are so many people getting affected hy this. Just take it as a show. It is because now Pallavi is a part of each one of us in the same way that Raghav is.

She is a part of our soul. She gets cheated on, we feel like we've been. All this pain and opinions are coming straight form the heart because each one of us is so heartbroken, maybe some of us even beyond repair

You're so on point here! It's the connect that formed over the months as we journeyed with them that is now hitting one hard.

I actually think the main problem is people expected Raghav to never falter in a way that they felt wasn't redeemable, especially because the last time he made a mess and people were skeptical about him having a redemption arc beyond saying sorry and asking for forgiveness, the CVs surprised everyone by showing him redeeming himself over several months.

No matter how much people say they want a flawed ML or enjoy seeing an anti-hero, many of them cannot accept certain kinds of mistakes, or the fact that the person may repent and get a second chance in life. Not that this is a good or bad thing, just my observation based on comments I'm reading here and elsewhere.

In my case, I'm just waiting for the entire thing to play out and see how the leads handle their relationship during and after this track, hopefully with no "mahaanta" on either side.

Originally posted by: inlieu

You're so on point here! It's the connect that formed over the months as we journeyed with them that is now hitting one hard.

I actually think the main problem is people expected Raghav to never falter in a way that they felt wasn't redeemable, especially because the last time he made a mess and people were skeptical about him having a redemption arc beyond saying sorry and asking for forgiveness, the CVs surprised everyone by showing him redeeming himself over several months.

No matter how much people say they want a flawed ML or enjoy seeing an anti-hero, many of them cannot accept certain kinds of mistakes, or the fact that the person may repent and get a second chance in life. Not that this is a good or bad thing, just my observation based on comments I'm reading here and elsewhere.

In my case, I'm just waiting for the entire thing to play out and see how the leads handle their relationship during and after this track, hopefully with no "mahaanta" on either side.

For me it's more about not believing that a guy like Raghav who always made me understand how important relationships are, in terms kf being partners. How cheating was a sin and nobody deserves such humiliation could do something like this.

He is a human he can make mistakes but for me on a personal level this one's gone too far. As each day pass and Pallavi looks like a fool walking on tha path of increasing the comfort level in their relationship, it becomes more and more difficult to get Raghav redeem in my eyes. He is a person i connected my soul with on a personal level. The dark past, i know how it feels. And then when that same dark and sympathetic past is made a joke and pathetic in it's meaning. I just can't.

I still don't understand how people can be only affected by the physical mistake or whatever he did and are okay to look over the emotional infidelity he's been causing as each day passes. How ridiculous it feels to realize that he's decreased another day of hope for Pallavi to forgive him cause the more he delays the darker the color of cheating increases.

I've read people say don't take revenge of M track now on Raghav. The thing is nobody here is tryna take a revenge. We're all just hurt because we've actually lived with these characters for more than 200 episodes since February and it hurts to watch them get humiliated by their own partner that we once were super proud of.

I still remember the day we all used to proudly say that Raghav is the best ML of itv and no one can even compare themselves to him but now we all feel like fools who believed lies.

Originally posted by: unicornwriter

For me it's more about not believing that a guy like Raghav who always made me understand how important relationships are, in terms kf being partners. How cheating was a sin and nobody deserves such humiliation could do something like this.

He is a human he can make mistakes but for me on a personal level this one's gone too far. As each day pass and Pallavi looks like a fool walking on tha path of increasing the comfort level in their relationship, it becomes more and more difficult to get Raghav redeem in my eyes. He is a person i connected my soul with on a personal level. The dark past, i know how it feels. And then when that same dark and sympathetic past is made a joke and pathetic in it's meaning. I just can't.

I still don't understand how people can be only affected by the physical mistake or whatever he did and are okay to look over the emotional infidelity he's been causing as each day passes. How ridiculous it feels to realize that he's decreased another day of hope for Pallavi to forgive him cause the more he delays the darker the color of cheating increases.

I've read people say don't take revenge of M track now on Raghav. The thing is nobody here is tryna take a revenge. We're all just hurt because we've actually lived with these characters for more than 200 episodes since February and it hurts to watch them get humiliated by their own partner that we once were super proud of.

I still remember the day we all used to proudly say that Raghav is the best ML of itv and no one can even compare themselves to him but now we all feel like fools who believed lies.

This is why it's important not to compare leads with other shows. 😆

Jokes apart, about the emotional infidelity, my view is that it has become a buzz word of late in the forum and on social media where some people are using it the right way and others are not. (not pointing at you here, dear, just my observation). There is a huge number of people who do not believe he is guilty of emotional infidelity while there are many who believe he is. Emotions are also a matter of perspective, hence the diverse opinions on this topic. Also, while it's easy for some of us to say she should walk away, the fact is that many spouses forgive their partners for cheating on them or for ending up in a situation like Raghav's. We may agree or not but each person has their own threshold of tolerance. If indeed Raghav was taken advantage of or if nothing happened between them and Pallavi finds out, then she may forgive him on the show but also in real life many would forgive. So far Raghav has been saying that it was unintentional and he never meant to cheat Pallavi (implying also that he didn't mean to lead Esha on).

The way it appears to me at this point, he never got closure from his past so he is unable to rip off the band-aid where Esha is concerned. It's easier said that done because there are two levels of guilt here: one is knowing that she sacrificed her life's happiness to save his life and entered an abusive marriage, aka hell, which she is still suffering for. Esha's betrayal finally made Raghav into the person we saw in episode 1, it formed his identity and sense of self and confidence. He made her betrayal the foundation of his success and mirrored her ruthlessness in his life and actions. Now that he discovers that the premise of that entire foundation was false, he is questioning everything about himself. He is no longer on sure footing and no longer knows who The Raghav Rao is meant to be at this point, without that foundation. The other level of guilt is because he believes has done the very thing he hates - cheating - with the very person who made him hate cheaters, that too with a person who hasn't given him a reason not to trust her so far. The irony of it all.

As for revenge... ugh... I don't know why people think along those lines. This isn't a revenge saga, or if it was, it only lasted one day after they got married. Here it's about characters eventually facing the people they wronged, but most importantly facing their own selves and dealing with the repercussions of their actions/decisions.

In all this I'd say one thing, the audience sees the 360 and we often forget that the characters do not, so they don't have the context that we do and act in isolation of other characters' motives. We saw Esha try to take advantage of his state, but Raghav doesn't know this. He woke up next morning and saw the state and immediately concluded that they did it consensually. Esha has been totally silent about the minute but important details and even Raghav doesn't see that part of it. Pallavi is finding Raghav's behavior strange these days. She knows he's worried and distracted but can't figure out why but she's sure something is really wrong. Raghav is unable to look her in the eye and is failing to read all the signs she's showing of her frantic state of mind and how her self-esteem is taking a hit (until the ALD sequence).

There is one huge lesson to be learned here. While it's inevitable that someone can have a profound positive or negative in your life that may shape who you become, it is ultimately your choice to decide what kind of person you want to become. Esha betrayed Raghav because of money and he became obsessed with it. He wanted to become the man who could be in a position of power and have enough wealth to remove any obstacles in life. He wanted to be the kind of man who would have been worthy of Esha and her father. He could have chosen to rise above it and earn money for a comfortable life without becoming ruthless and cynical. I'm not saying that one option is right and the other is wrong, just that he has a choice. You should never let another person dictate or overly influence how you become, no matter how difficult the circumstances are and in this also I feel Jaya's failed parenting was a huge contributor. I don't think she built Raghav up to be strong enough in life to hold steady against this sort of turbulence. We see that even today.

Show him the middle finger and move on.

If you want an answer based on what I've seen IRL:

It just depends on an individual's threshold and whether the love they have for their spouse outweighs the hurt he/she caused them.

Originally posted by: Anu1975

I will call him a Gentleman for considering me as his temporary emotional crutch…

I will love him with all my heart for pulling a yeh rishta kya kehalatha hai to me and start singing Iss Pyar kho kya naam dhoon with Ex..

Ab meh kya karoon ITV yahi dikhatha Hai for the past 10 yrs…in the name of rishtha wahi soch nayee 😞

Yeh read Karke Kuch Kuch hota hai. Aur bade ache lagte hai.

Originally posted by: inlieu

This is why it's important not to compare leads with other shows. 😆

Jokes apart, about the emotional infidelity, my view is that it has become a buzz word of late in the forum and on social media where some people are using it the right way and others are not. (not pointing at you here, dear, just my observation). There is a huge number of people who do not believe he is guilty of emotional infidelity while there are many who believe he is. Emotions are also a matter of perspective, hence the diverse opinions on this topic. Also, while it's easy for some of us to say she should walk away, the fact is that many spouses forgive their partners for cheating on them or for ending up in a situation like Raghav's. We may agree or not but each person has their own threshold of tolerance. If indeed Raghav was taken advantage of or if nothing happened between them and Pallavi finds out, then she may forgive him on the show but also in real life many would forgive. So far Raghav has been saying that it was unintentional and he never meant to cheat Pallavi (implying also that he didn't mean to lead Esha on).

The way it appears to me at this point, he never got closure from his past so he is unable to rip off the band-aid where Esha is concerned. It's easier said that done because there are two levels of guilt here: one is knowing that she sacrificed her life's happiness to save his life and entered an abusive marriage, aka hell, which she is still suffering for. Esha's betrayal finally made Raghav into the person we saw in episode 1, it formed his identity and sense of self and confidence. He made her betrayal the foundation of his success and mirrored her ruthlessness in his life and actions. Now that he discovers that the premise of that entire foundation was false, he is questioning everything about himself. He is no longer on sure footing and no longer knows who The Raghav Rao is meant to be at this point, without that foundation. The other level of guilt is because he believes has done the very thing he hates - cheating - with the very person who made him hate cheaters, that too with a person who hasn't given him a reason not to trust her so far. The irony of it all.

As for revenge... ugh... I don't know why people think along those lines. This isn't a revenge saga, or if it was, it only lasted one day after they got married. Here it's about characters eventually facing the people they wronged, but most importantly facing their own selves and dealing with the repercussions of their actions/decisions.

In all this I'd say one thing, the audience sees the 360 and we often forget that the characters do not, so they don't have the context that we do and act in isolation of other characters' motives. We saw Esha try to take advantage of his state, but Raghav doesn't know this. He woke up next morning and saw the state and immediately concluded that they did it consensually. Esha has been totally silent about the minute but important details and even Raghav doesn't see that part of it. Pallavi is finding Raghav's behavior strange these days. She knows he's worried and distracted but can't figure out why but she's sure something is really wrong. Raghav is unable to look her in the eye and is failing to read all the signs she's showing of her frantic state of mind and how her self-esteem is taking a hit (until the ALD sequence).

There is one huge lesson to be learned here. While it's inevitable that someone can have a profound positive or negative in your life that may shape who you become, it is ultimately your choice to decide what kind of person you want to become. Esha betrayed Raghav because of money and he became obsessed with it. He wanted to become the man who could be in a position of power and have enough wealth to remove any obstacles in life. He wanted to be the kind of man who would have been worthy of Esha and her father. He could have chosen to rise above it and earn money for a comfortable life without becoming ruthless and cynical. I'm not saying that one option is right and the other is wrong, just that he has a choice. You should never let another person dictate or overly influence how you become, no matter how difficult the circumstances are and in this also I feel Jaya's failed parenting was a huge contributor. I don't think she built Raghav up to be strong enough in life to hold steady against this sort of turbulence. We see that even today.

@bold- You don't need a closure for forced marriage. But you need a closure to start a relationship consensually with the person you're married to. These are two different things.

If he was not over, he should have been vocal cause it just doesn't involve him. It involves Pallavi too, just as how many of them couldn't accept Pallavi helping Mandaar despite Raghav's knowledge. Pallavi was clearly over him but Raghav's insecurities were too high even after knowing that Pallavi was in love with Raghav. Here you are saying that Raghav isn't over Esha. So what right does he have to expect anything from Pallavi at this point?

It's not revenge saga. But self respect is much more important than the relationship. Pallavi chose to love a person who wasn't over his ex. It's unacceptable.

Everything about Esha and her betrayal could have been applicable only if Raghav and Pallavi didn't start their relationship. I would call Pallavi a warm hearted person for even accepting Raghav's past after months of their happy marriage. He hid it from her and it's unfair.

Raghav couldn't accept Keerthi's marriage and got mad at Pallavi, he made her run behind him. Here, he has done such a huge thing. He crushed down his promise to her and destroyed it with his own hands. Expecting Pallavi to forgive is like asking her to jump down from the cliff.