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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Inese_20

Since we are talking about what’s acceptable as funny and what’s not-


Can I add that the choking scene wasn’t funny at all? Because, for the starters, it’s an extremely scary life-threatening situation?


Sorry, I just had to say this 🤣 I know many people did find it hilarious, but I was cringing literally.


I moved on , because it’s just a show and if it’s funny to them, so I am alright. If jhadu pitai and today’s episode is funny to Raghav, I can move on from this as well.

But when it comes to real life implications- all these scenes are not funny.



What is the choking scene Parul I cannot recollect..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: Raghav_Rao

I know but sometimes feel aata hai ke Sai Raghav ke liye kyu nahi!

We are here from starting! But never saw anyone coming to his AT!

Bas wahi 5 6 regular members!

This is from the second AT itself... Koi nahi aane ka

As I said only we are here...

And actually I don't care now, I have understood how everything works.

Let me tell you we are better of like this..

Untill you and others are here with me, I will do my best..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

I clearly said in the first line itself the makers should stop showing stuff like this. Funny part was we as audience online analysing each and everything so much which maker don't even care about

I know ....

Yep we are always cribbing aren't we ...

Honestly it's exhausting,

That's why I don't do it usually, but karna padha as I knew nobody else will take that initiatives...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm


What is the choking scene Parul I cannot recollect..


Shalini, I am talking about the scene where Raghav chokes on his food while having lunch in his den and Pallavi is there. She saves him.
Unpopular opinion, but let me try to point out why I think it’s not funny.


  1. For the sake of physical comedy , they went for all the weird ways possible instead of the recommended heimlich manoeuvre. (Infact the physical comedy, if they really wanted it, could be achieved with heimlich as well- as a friend pointed out to me later.)
  2. The whole scene made me extremely uncomfortable as a doctor- because if someone is choking, they are literally seconds away from death. You don’t get to make jokes in between that. One of the scariest emergencies that exists!
  3. IMO, It’s out of character for both Raghav and Pallavi to behave like this. If you are derailing your characters for forced humor, it’s an instant turn off. Felt it during the choking scene, then a little bit during broom scene (it didn’t come as a surprise, we had bts so I was prepared.) and yesterday’s stick scene- honestly I am desensitised by now. But it’s just not the way RaghVi are. I feel. Raghav not making Pallavi assured of his presence in D house as Swapnil is so not Raghav. Pallavi pulling out a stick at him, is so not Pallavi.
    These are two individuals who would value life and love a lot, because they both have lost so much before they found each other. This is just a very flawed idea of comedy, which the makers seem to think we love.
    I hope I was able to convey my point here.
  4. Coming back to the choking scene- it could have instead been a very intense moment between Raghav and Pallavi- this was the second time she was saving his life and this time he was conscious. I hate when mhrw makers don’t cash on significant moments like this but instead choose to add lame humor. I can’t bring myself to laugh at such scenes at all, especially not the very first time.


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Posted: 4 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

I agree that there's too much violence on this show, but honestly, there are some scenes in which violence is dramatically effective.

I agree,

Sulochana hitting Amruta was supposed to make us feel sorry for Amruta and disgusted by Sulochana. It worked for me; simply shouting wouldn't have conveyed how depraved Sulochana is. I saw a frightened child who had trusted her mother to help with an unplanned pregnancy, and an unfit mother who took out her frustration on her child. So, when Pallavi shielded Amruta and was kind to her, it wasn't unbelievably magnanimous; I understood Pallavi's sympathy.


Likewise, when Jaya slapped Raghav after he brought Pallavi back to the saṃgīta, it was meant to jolt us viewers to feel sympathy for Raghav because his mother saw him as a sexual predator. It worked for me. After Jaya told Raghav what she thought he had done, and Raghav explained that he had rescued Pallavi and said Kṣamiñcu anyway, the scene of Raghav crying while hugging Jaya's ghuṅgarū and Ajit's nādasvaram might have seemed like an overreaction. With the physical sting of Jaya's slap, it made more sense for Raghav to cry like that.

Yes it was done to show how misunderstood he was and why he was so willing to do anything to do for his family

When Raghav was choking, yes, it would have been serious in real life, but we all knew that Raghav wouldn't die this way. So, I wasn't offended. I enjoyed the irony that Pallavi, who had just muttered that a few slaps could have fixed Raghav before too late, immediately got a chance to pound on him, and had to hit harder than she wanted to.

I was not offended but I didn't enjoyed it either and thought it was funny

I wasn't offended that Pallavi hit Raghav with the soft broom, but the stick was unacceptable. If the genders were reversed, a husband could playfully hit his wife with a soft broom if they both understood that it's not intimidation. However, Raghav and Pallavi were just starting to trust each other at that time, and this playful hitting didn't seem believable.


Some posts in this thread have asked, what if it was Raghav being violent to Pallavi? The show wouldn't survive, right? Well, he has behaved threateningly or overpowered her many times. I'll just mention two occasions.

He has and show got severe backlash during the said time and all raised their voice

First, when he was at the courthouse to bail out Jaya and Kirti, and she thought he was there to interfere in her stay-of-eviction order, he raised his hand to hit her and she cringed, and then he shoved her onto her lawyer (Jaydip). I suppose that was meant to show that Raghav has a temper and hates Pallavi, and still managed to limit his violent reaction, but it just seemed gratuitous to me.

Yes it was to show how much anger he is having for Pallavi, and to make us ready for what was happening next.. Raghav maligning her character resulting in VD throwing her out

Second, when Vijay was in jail and Pallavi was scolding Raghav, he gagged her, held her wrists, and slung her over his shoulder. I thought that the person who was watching them would record it and publish photos to embarrass Raghav, but no, the scene was comedy to show how unconventional this loving couple is. It was just demeaning and male chauvinistic.

here I don't agree, it was not needed as you said but it's not chauvinist or demeaning, he was asking her to relax but she was tense and constantly worried, agree he didn't had to gag her or not but it was to show as you said they had reached that level of understanding

I have read the whole thread so far, so please don't feel the need to repeat what you've already written - but it's up to you, of course. Please don't hesitate to tell me if I've offended you.

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No am not ...

I like to see and read different POV to get the understanding of the situation..

What you have written is so different from my perspective and I respect your views...

My concern is even if they did show that beating with stick why put the funny BGM, let it be serious if at all.

They will have that understanding, he knows she is so frustrated, by putting that funny act the whole seriousness of the situation got lessened

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Posted: 4 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: Isamreen

This is from the second AT itself... Koi nahi aane ka

As I said only we are here...

And actually I don't care now, I have understood how everything works.

Let me tell you we are better of like this..

Untill you and others are here with me, I will do my best..

This is the first show for which I've even visited an AT, just because of Sai but I'm not a regular.


Is the AT only to discuss him or he character Raghav too?


I'm sorry you feel alone there. I will try to make an effort.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#77

The choking thing was one of the worst attempts at forced comedy on the show. The entire thing fell flat.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#78

My opinion is that beating with a stick is unacceptable even without funny music. If Pallavi is frustrated with Raghav, let her cry or shout. Frustration is not an excuse to beat anyone with a stick. This is not a domestic abuse storyline, so beating with a stick has no place here.


A husband slinging his wife over his shoulder is absolutely male chauvinistic because it's a show of force that is generally possible for males against females and not for females against males. Raghav did it as if he has the right to move his wife around just because he has the physical might. That was totally demeaning to someone who is his equal partner in marriage. Also, gagging and restraining someone is not at all the way to help her relax. Raghav has no right to dictate when Pallavi should stop being tense, stop worrying, stop chattering etc.


By the way, Pallavi's emotional state after Vijay was arrested could be described as "hysterical" - a word that has a problematic history because it's related to the Greek word for uterus - an organ that only women's bodies have. Physicians were taught a male-centric view of health, in which hysteria was a condition of women, for which their menfolk should control them.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you very much for making this post. You have said everything I wanted to say. The character of Raghav has taken enough physical violence in the form of slaps from almost all other characters ( some of which we can say he deserved)

Now Pallavi is shown beating him with broom and stick. I didn't find either of these scenes funny. Getting beaten by a broom is considered extremely humiliating atleast here in south India. It's reserved only for those who sexually harass women in public places. It's very unfortunate that makers decided it was funny to show a man getting beaten with broom infront of his staff. 🤷‍♀️ Trust me I didn't laugh at all.

Coming to beating by stick ...it was totally unnecessary as writers could have always made Pallavi use her hands. Raghav raising his hand was also totally wrong.( actually it looked like he was trying to stop her to mebut it was unnecessary) What could have been a beautiful scene turned into disgusting for me because of this.

I don't know why the writers of this show find humor in physical violence or life and death situations like choking or someone's fear for destructive weapons like bombs. 🤷‍♀️

These people should watch some Malayalam movies to understand what comedy really is.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

My opinion is that beating with a stick is unacceptable even without funny music. If Pallavi is frustrated with Raghav, let her cry or shout. Frustration is not an excuse to beat anyone with a stick. This is not a domestic abuse storyline, so beating with a stick has no place here.


A husband slinging his wife over his shoulder is absolutely male chauvinistic because it's a show of force that is generally possible for males against females and not for females against males. Raghav did it as if he has the right to move his wife around just because he has the physical might. That was totally demeaning to someone who is his equal partner in marriage. Also, gagging and restraining someone is not at all the way to help her relax. Raghav has no right to dictate when Pallavi should stop being tense, stop worrying, stop chattering etc.


By the way, Pallavi's emotional state after Vijay was arrested could be described as "hysterical" - a word that has a problematic history because it's related to the Greek word for uterus - an organ that only women's bodies have. Physicians were taught a male-centric view of health, in which hysteria was a condition of women, for which their menfolk should control them.

B- 💯 I agree

Red -

Although I like to agree on this but calling him Chauvinist for one or two incidents is not fair,

I don't like to compare characters but if we view in this regard Pallavi will be abusive

Each character has their own arc, sometimes they are right, sometimes wrong..

In the same serial there is one character who is the definition of chauvinism for me - Sunny Ahuja ...


Last para - thank you for writing this, this is something I didn't know...

Edited by Isamreen - 4 years ago

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