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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Just a note on the performance

Neil and Ayesha killed it today.

They portrayed the heartbreak so beautifully. So kudos.

Yes. Neilsha elevated the scene to the next level. Amazingly real and intense performance from both.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Just a note on the performance

Neil and Ayesha killed it today.

They portrayed the heartbreak so beautifully. So kudos.

Just wrote this in another thread. I couldn't agree more. I actually thought that today's fight was one of the best executed SaiRat scenes till date...the way in which it was filmed and directed was also a treat to watch. No matter how painful the episode was, it was extremely raw and real. The contrast between Virat and Sai today was portrayed so incredibly by NeilSha. Sai was at her breaking point, mindlessly throwing accusations and insults at Virat. But Virat was deathly calm, restrained, and detached. Both of them were acting in the ways they did out of sheer pain and love for each other.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Loved all your points!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

Great post and beautifully expressed what Sai and Virat are going through ❤️


Just a few points I want to add without Sai vs Virat


1) Sais dialogue about Karma I felt was related to Samrats dialogue about his fate and how he accepted this as karma and left the house. It was hurtful yes, but Sai could feel Samrats pain at that point and if you notice she cries after Virat leaves, so she knows that was hurtful.

2) In the room both of them were quitely packing the bags , Sai could have let it be and leave the matter until they got home, but she wanted to know what he was thinking, but in the wrong tone. She herself seemed very disturbed but just didn't know how to start a conversation so started with a taunt.

3) Virat calling Sai immature again , I don't get this dialogue at all even after 270 episodes. In my opinion they are both immature and should start pointing fingers at themselves than eachother.

4) Sai calling him a 2 timer, I said this in the anniversary scene aswell this was very wrong and Sai knows this is not true. She shouldn't have said this then , neither now.

5) Virat physically hurting Sai , whatever maybe the situation or hurtful words Sai has said this is wrong.

6) After all the taunts Sai still asked the same question she has been asking Virat for 6 months now. He has never answered the question in the past but today he seemed too broken to answer. Fair enough he was in no mood to answer.

7) Virat tells Sai he will show her a side of him she has never seen before. This was wrong according to me that too coming from a police officer. This came out more like a husband threatening a wife.

8) Virat telling Sai their relationship is broken and there is nothing left between them. Glad he said this because this is what the 2 of them need to value eachother. Sai should leave now especially since Virat broke the relationship. Neither one of them values the other unless one of them is in the hospital or missing.

9) This again is the same point I mentioned in the anniversary episode - Sais love for Pakhi is unbelievable. This is seriously Stockholm syndrome and no one can convince me otherwise. No amount of good heart can explain this love for a vile person like Pakhi.

So sai convinently puts all the blame on Virat again and Pakhi is the victim in all this. On the wedding day Virat was clearly in GC to save her, and Samrat clearly said he heard Patralekha talking to someone and left. So isn't it Patralekhas fault as much as Virats ? Why is Sai mute when Pakhi talks about her dreams being shattered by Virat , why couldn't she ask her why did she agree to marry Samrat in the 1st place if she loves Virat. I am trying to understand her love for Pakhi but my brain fails me each time 🤦.

10) Samrat not wanting to listen to Virat was fair from Samrats perspective. He was betrayed by Virat which shattered and broke him to the core. Would Virat listen to anything when he is angry or made up his mind on something? I doubt it since we have seen this in many scinearios in the past.


Same precap but Sais dialogue about Surprise for Pakhi and how happy she would be 🤦, maaro mujhe please. When did she ever tell Sai she wants Samrat to comeback. This dialogue has been bothering me since yesterday and have to hear it again especially this is such a contradicting dialogue. How can Pakhi be happy with Samrat coming back if Virat and Pakhi still like eachother 🤦. Also has she forgot Virat asked her to stay out of his family matters 🤔


@ laksh responded here about the karma dialogue based on what I felt


Adding a few tags.


Loved reading your take. I have slightly difference perspectives on a number of the points you have listed, but they were already in my original post so I won't repeat them here 😊

I do want to comment on @bolded. I think we have had a similar discussion before. In my point of view, it is not about Sai's love for Pakhi. It is entirely about her love for Virat. She could care less about what Pakhi does or says if Virat had cleared everything up by now. But, she attacks, accuses, and insults Virat (no matter how unacceptable), because he is the one who has hurt her. She questions him, because she feels a haq on him. She denies this relationship, its reality...but internally, she has accepted him as her husband and herself as his wife. She acts exactly as any other wife would. The way in which she treated him today was out of her unwavering love for him...no matter how royally messed up it was.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Tags are not working like the show torturing us is not enough 🤣🤣. Adding tags again to see if it works for page 5

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

@bold well said. They have taken their relationship for granted for too long that it's on the verge of breaking. It's like a wave one day one goes high the other goes low and the cycle continues. Sai wants answers and she is losing her Patience and you could see her the desperation and urgency in her tone since Samrat entered and he wants to free Patralekha. Virat at the moment is just engulfed in guilt that his brother left because of him and Sai is not understanding him aswell.

In a twisted way, I actually thought that today was the first step in them healing their relationship.... Sai crossed all lines, and Virat is now dead from the inside. But, finally this has marked some sort of "progress" from the standstill they were in. Up until this point, both of them were drowning in their own emotions, unable to understand each other. But, the aftermath fight will cause both of them to do some serious digging into each other's perspectives...


@bolded: love this wave analogy...really beautiful ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks for the update Neerja😊 This was one of the best episodes of the show. Neil and Ayesha were superb today with their performances. Surprisingly, that particular scene was shot very well in terms of lighting and camera placement.

My heart broke for Virat and Sai today. Maybe a little more for Virat though. I liked that Samrat didn't make any jalebis like his brother and told point blank the reasons for his leaving. He wasn't even interested in listening to Virat which was understandable. What I didn't like is Sai's mean comment about Karma. Yes, Virat owes answers to Samrat and Sai but this can't be categorised as Virat's "Karma". He didn't set out to purposely hurt his brother. Even during their bedroom scene, passing that two timing comment was really below the belt. I can totally get it as to why Virat was not interested in saying or justifying anything to her when she told him to pick between Pakhi and her. He has totally given up now and Neil portrayed this part brilliantly👏 Since Virat hasn't been very clear with his communication skills, things had to reach this tipping point for a heated exchange of words to happen. IMO, this break can be one of the best things that can happen to both of them. It will give them time to think, introspect and understand each other's importance on their lives.

For a change, I didn't FF Pakhi Didi's scenes also😆Bakra halal hone ke pehle uski harkatein dekhni thi mujhe😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi


Loved reading your take. I have slightly difference perspectives on a number of the points you have listed, but they were already in my original post so I won't repeat them here 😊

I do want to comment on @bolded. I think we have had a similar discussion before. In my point of view, it is not about Sai's love for Pakhi. It is entirely about her love for Virat. She could care less about what Pakhi does or says if Virat had cleared everything up by now. But, she attacks, accuses, and insults Virat (no matter how unacceptable), because he is the one who has hurt her. She questions him, because she feels a haq on him. She denies this relationship, its reality...but internally, she has accepted him as her husband and herself as his wife. She acts exactly as any other wife would. The way in which she treated him today was out of her unwavering love for him...no matter how royally messed up it was.

Love for someone doesn't explain her calling Pakhi innocent victim in all this, she did this in an earlier episode too. It's ok if she is mad at Virat and wants to hurt him , spouses do that to eachother when they are mad and they clear things when they makeup. But these words of Sai can these be cleared ever that it was all Virats fault all 4 life's are messed up? I don't agree to this, this is a huge accusation considering she has never questioned Pakhi why she agreed to marry Samrat if she and Virat were eternal lovers. Here I don't agree that she only cares about Virat so she accuses him. What about Samrats pain now considering Pakhi was the one who deceived him? Is Sai not feeling Samrats pain wrt to how Pakhi has deceived him all along when he was missing and she has seen it first hand but only feels smarts pain wrt to Virat ? I feel this is very weird and cannot understand Sais sympathy for Pakhi.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

Love for someone doesn't explain her calling Pakhi innocent victim in all this, she did this in an earlier episode too. It's ok if she is mad at Virat and wants to hurt him , spouses do that to eachother when they are mad and they clear things when they makeup. But these words of Sai can these be cleared ever that it was all Virats fault all 4 life's are messed up? I don't agree to this, this is a huge accusation considering she has never questioned Pakhi why she agreed to marry Samrat if she and Virat were eternal lovers. Here I don't agree that she only cares about Virat so she accuses him. What about Samrats pain now considering Pakhi was the one who deceived him? Is Sai not feeling Samrats pain wrt to how Pakhi has deceived him all along when he was missing and she has seen it first hand but only feels smarts pain wrt to Virat ? I feel this is very weird and cannot understand Sais sympathy for Pakhi.

@bolded: I don't think Sai is intentionally hurting Virat for reasons I have already explained.


I didn't agree with what Sai said today either when she told Virat that he is responsible for ruining 4 lives. Again, not to justify anything she said, but she truly was not thinking before speaking today. It was her pain pouring out. I still think that she was targeting Virat, because he is the one who has pained her! In the Virat, Pakhi, Sai equation up until this point, Samrat has had nothing to do with it. Sai is hurt by Virat, not Pakhi...because she loves Virat, not Pakhi! Pakhi's actions would not mean anything to her if Virat had cleared up this entire mess!


Sai feeling Samrat's pain is an entirely different story. She feels his pain because she is in the exact same situation as him (from her POV). She feels as though she is the third wheel in Virat and Pakhi's love story, just as he does.


In terms of Sai seeing Pakhi as the victim in this particular situation, I think a part of it also has to be attributed to what Sai herself has witnessed. She sees Pakhi crying and throwing tantrums for Virat. She sees her telling Virat that he shattered her dreams. But, Virat has not clarified any of this to Sai. Yes, Sai sees that Virat is indifferent towards Pakhi now and even defends Sai from Pakhi... but once again, Sai does not know what has happened in the past. The only clues she had up until the anniversary track were pretty much from Pakhi's behavior...


And on a more practical level, the makers' whitewashing of Pakhi definitely plays a role in many of Sai's dialogues.

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have nothing against Virat but personally I dislike diplomatic peeps in such emo situations. I personally have experienced many issues due to this. It confuses me as a individual when people don't talk clearly. So below is my personal perspective

When Sam walked out Virat was still emo involved with pp it's borderline cheating .. so Sam getting mad is ok. But staying away for so long especially from his Amma and leaving army 😠( I am uncomfortable with this totally) But for their old bond he should give him a chance to clarify what Virat wants to say. If he wants to believe or not he can decide later


At some point virat fell for sai and wants to show in actions but sometimes his keeping quiet in the madhouse dramas and not voicing it out in public makes it look bad. The karma comment was uncalled for.

The best thing would be for all four involved to have a mature con within boundaries of respect and talk clearly without jalebi talk

Edited by AnjuRish - 4 years ago

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