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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaome

Has anyone heard the saying brides are like new born child because as they enter to this new world she cries out of amusement, out of fear..

I remember during the time of their marriage he wouldn't even extend the hand of friendship to Sai ..what he thought that he would maintain emotional bonding with brother's wife and expected his brother tolerate these all..though Samrat is nothing less than a juvenile delinquent..

All her insecurities bottled up today made her saying those words that she shouldn't have uttered.. Karma was just hitting below the belt.. Hope Sai apologize Virat ,I felt truly bad for virat.. He finally gave up and his eyes looked lifeless.Virat is back to his shell and looks like Sai will draw into huge depression..

The thing is she has fallen in love with him and is too scared to lose him now that Samrat has openly made his choice.. She is just not able to make sense of anything at all..😭 In all this Virat still has a family , this one really does not have anything.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

I don’t sympathise Sai today. Enough is enough. She has all the patience and concern for every one around but not for Virat who stood by her ever since he entered GC.

Samrat is a stranger to her but still she could believe his phone call story but she has the audacity to believe that Virat is a two timer. From which angle he looked like that I can’t understand. Yes he did commit mistakes or crimes like throwing her out and suspecting her charecter. That doesn’t give Sai free pass to behave the way she did today.

Going by today’s fight I definitely stand with Virat who left no stone unturned to make her happy within his capacity.

Words uttered can never be taken back. That is why they should be used with common sense.

How could Sai believe the yoga teacher and Samrat leaving behind Virat whom she knows for more than one year?

I want Sai to apologise in true sense...I wait to see that happen.

@bold Virat himself admitted whatever yoga teacher said was true. And more than anyone it was virat who first planted his love story with pakhi in sai mind. No one else. Why won't she believe pakhi, samrat,yoga teacher words when they r saying the same thing what virat told her through actions & words many times. And virat never said he don't love pakhi anymore even when confronted 100 times.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

Thanks for the update, Neerja ❤️

I didn't side with either one of them more than the other today.... both of them are shattered, clouded in their own pain, and unable to understand each other. This fight broke my heart in a way that none of their fights before ever has. Because, more than ever before, it was so damn obvious how in love with each other they are, but they just can't see it.


Samrat's entry has pushed Sai to her mental collapse. The way she was talking about Samrat's pain today was basically an avenue for her to be able to express her own pain. I had written this in another post, but up until this point, all she knows about the past has been from Pakhi's behavior and from the yoga retreat teacher's words. But, now, she has come to understand that Samrat left the day after he got married due to Virat and Pakhi's relationship- something that could have been still vague for her, has come crashing down on her like a boulder hitting her with full force. This is an extremely hard-hitting reality to be able to confront. On top of that, now that Samrat wants to set Pakhi free, her greatest fears are coming true... because that just brings Virat and Pakhi one step closer to being able to be together in her mind. She is so entirely engulfed in these fears that she lost all control today and crossed every imaginable line. I truly hope she apologizes to Virat for her bitter words somewhere down the line. Today, the gist behind many of her statements to Virat were spot on- he needs to clarify everything to Samrat and make clear what place she and Pakhi have in his life. Her line about Pakhi being noble because she acts and behaves in the same way was so telling- she needs this same thing from Virat. She is so utterly confused by his actions and his affection towards her, but lack of verbal clarification. Once again, she was allowing herself to believe in the reality of this relationship... everything was going so well- college fest, birthday, the way in Virat begged her to stay with him. This one trip with the Lover's Point and Samrat brought it all crashing down. But, in accusing Virat of being in a masterplan and dropping her other bombs, she entirely shattered him. Even the karma dialogue was too far.... she is hurting, but that doesn't give her a free pass to say whatever nonsense she wants. She, in fact, has no idea what actually happened in the past. Virat made a mistake, a great one too, but he does not deserve all of this. He has never acted with malintentions- Sai and Samrat's happiness and wellbeing has been at the root of all of his vaadas and subsequent actions. Sai lost all control over her tongue, and her words cannot be justified in any way. There is a way she could have asked him about all of this- called him out, without throwing the accusations she did. But, she was so clouded by her emotions that she ended up uttering absolute garbage. There is a saying that the right thing, said in the wrong way, becomes wrong- and that is exactly what happened today.


Virat has, in many ways, dug his own grave and brought himself to this point... however, his character cannot be questioned like this. This man has never crossed the line. He has remained faithful to both his brother and his wife... his intentions have always been of gold. Once again, what always happens between these two, happened today. Sai's harsh words and bitter exterior left him in utter shock and heartbreak...more than ever before. He kept saying that Sai has insulted him, but what was paining him more than his own insult was that she was insulting his unwavering love for her. I don't think anyone can blame him for not clarifying things today. At this point, he thinks that Sai despises him...has no place in her heart, let alone life for him. He has been so deeply misunderstood by the person who means everything to him. Sai kept saying that he was unhappy that Samrat has returned, but in reality, he was broken that the two people he values most can question him like this. He was too clouded in his own emotions to see the hurt that Sai was in...he was too pained to see that Sai's pain was because of how much she loves him. I understand why he told Sai not to interfere in his matters anymore, but this is just going to make her feel even more like the third wheel...these words are going to haunt her. The fact that this was the first time Sai brought up leaving and he didn't counter was so sad. He has given up all hope... so much so, that he is setting her free. Yes, because he feels hurt, but more so, because he believes her happiness is elsewhere. I'm not going to take these words at face value though, because we all know that he says things (just like Sai) that he does not mean all the time. It is going to be too hard for him to follow through with this.... Sai's face when he was saying these words was painful beyond measure...

Beautiful post Pooja ❤️. You have written everything so poignantly.💔

I felt the same...I felt for both. Both are wrong. Virat by not clarifying his past earlier and Sai by crossing her all lines today. Virat did dig his own grave didn't he?

And yes the fight was different from usual....there was a deep chasm between the hearts and not just angry, hurtful words.

Sai was too wrong today. Yes there was no sexual connotation to what she said. But she cast aspersions on his character, his honesty by implying that he wilfully and using cunning, deceived two women. I can imagine how shattered Virat must have felt. Even after anniversary, Virat was showing apnapan when she got lost, and trying to protect her from Samrat's anger. The karma comment did him in. It was so insensitive.

Virat didn't clarify himself because Sai's tone was so accusatory. She did ask valid questions but they got lost in the intense hurt she caused. I really don't know how they are going to come out of it.

I was thinking about Sai. The same Sai who has never doubted Virat...even when he planned the Ladakh trip with Pakhi. Where did these accusations come from? Even in her most angry frame of mind...even when Virat was hurting her so much during the hand-holding episode, she accused the family, Pakhi but never him. This is probably what transpires when you throw away your feelings for too long - it explodes in your face when you come face to face with the reality. Sai could not handle that - the tsunami she was was feeling - and she took it all on Virat. Im not trying to defend Sai's behaviour today, just trying to look at it objectively. She never has somebody who she could confide in, to seek guidance from - who could have helped her accept and navigate her feelings. Had that happened, Sai would have confronted Virat long ago and this issue would have been done and dusted by now.

Virat - it's extraordinary how he believes that others would understand him just through his actions. Yes actions do speak louder than words...but there are times when clarifications are needed too. If we want to see any silver lining in this whole mess - it is to hope that Virat understands the importance of clarity in relationships.

As much as Sai's words were hurtful, I don't want this track to be about Sai riding in her emotional roller coaster, suffering all the angst alone and finding a way to end the impasse in their relationship. I want Virat to realize the deep uncertainty that the vaada caused in Sai - and clear all her misapprehensions with openness and honesty. I want Sai to acknowledge that she cause unbearable pain to Virat by her caustic words - and apologize to Virat sincerely and earnestly. I hope there is a neutral person who can help them see each other's POV.


Right now, I can't think of anything that can heal the realtionship. It has a long way to go..... The way they are being to each other, it's better to stay alone for some time alone atleast...but that again is no guarantee for a chance at reconciliation.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MB1996

I feel the makers are deliberately trying to Show Sai and Samrat as harsh and make look virat and pakhi di as bechara.

So audience can sympathize with them on their condition and bash sai which is actually successful.

I mean the dialogues since the begining of Mahabaleshwar track for sai has been complete off and doesn't matches her character ,similarly they are showing as Samrat has some misunderstanding.

Where as they are whitewashing that so called bechari patralekha,so that once Samrat decides to divorce her people will sympathize with it.

I feel the whole episode was unnecessary trying to show FL as harsh and rude which is actually working

In fact If you watch today sbs clip they are showing sai in bad character but they won't do for pakhi aunty as if she doesn't deserves.

How could the makers be accused of whitewashing when KD has the same scenes and dialogues?

Emon behaved the same way and Samrat is the same as in the original.

There is no whitewashing done specifically to cover up Patralekha.

None of the viewers ,not even the TRP viewers will sympathise with Patralekha for getting divorced. So whitewashing is out of question.

When we called out Virat for his wrongs we should accept and point out Sai’s insensitive and rash behaviour today.

There is no whitewashing..done on purpose.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Just a note on the performance

Neil and Ayesha killed it today.

They portrayed the heartbreak so beautifully. So kudos.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

Thanks for the update, Neerja ❤️

I didn't side with either one of them more than the other today.... both of them are shattered, clouded in their own pain, and unable to understand each other. This fight broke my heart in a way that none of their fights before ever has. Because, more than ever before, it was so damn obvious how in love with each other they are, but they just can't see it.


Samrat's entry has pushed Sai to her mental collapse. The way she was talking about Samrat's pain today was basically an avenue for her to be able to express her own pain. I had written this in another post, but up until this point, all she knows about the past has been from Pakhi's behavior and from the yoga retreat teacher's words. But, now, she has come to understand that Samrat left the day after he got married due to Virat and Pakhi's relationship- something that could have been still vague for her, has come crashing down on her like a boulder hitting her with full force. This is an extremely hard-hitting reality to be able to confront. On top of that, now that Samrat wants to set Pakhi free, her greatest fears are coming true... because that just brings Virat and Pakhi one step closer to being able to be together in her mind. She is so entirely engulfed in these fears that she lost all control today and crossed every imaginable line. I truly hope she apologizes to Virat for her bitter words somewhere down the line. Today, the gist behind many of her statements to Virat were spot on- he needs to clarify everything to Samrat and make clear what place she and Pakhi have in his life. Her line about Pakhi being noble because she acts and behaves in the same way was so telling- she needs this same thing from Virat. She is so utterly confused by his actions and his affection towards her, but lack of verbal clarification. Once again, she was allowing herself to believe in the reality of this relationship... everything was going so well- college fest, birthday, the way in Virat begged her to stay with him. This one trip with the Lover's Point and Samrat brought it all crashing down. But, in accusing Virat of being in a masterplan and dropping her other bombs, she entirely shattered him. Even the karma dialogue was too far.... she is hurting, but that doesn't give her a free pass to say whatever nonsense she wants. She, in fact, has no idea what actually happened in the past. Virat made a mistake, a great one too, but he does not deserve all of this. He has never acted with malintentions- Sai and Samrat's happiness and wellbeing has been at the root of all of his vaadas and subsequent actions. Sai lost all control over her tongue, and her words cannot be justified in any way. There is a way she could have asked him about all of this- called him out, without throwing the accusations she did. But, she was so clouded by her emotions that she ended up uttering absolute garbage. There is a saying that the right thing, said in the wrong way, becomes wrong- and that is exactly what happened today.


Virat has, in many ways, dug his own grave and brought himself to this point... however, his character cannot be questioned like this. This man has never crossed the line. He has remained faithful to both his brother and his wife... his intentions have always been of gold. Once again, what always happens between these two, happened today. Sai's harsh words and bitter exterior left him in utter shock and heartbreak...more than ever before. He kept saying that Sai has insulted him, but what was paining him more than his own insult was that she was insulting his unwavering love for her. I don't think anyone can blame him for not clarifying things today. At this point, he thinks that Sai despises him...has no place in her heart, let alone life for him. He has been so deeply misunderstood by the person who means everything to him. Sai kept saying that he was unhappy that Samrat has returned, but in reality, he was broken that the two people he values most can question him like this. He was too clouded in his own emotions to see the hurt that Sai was in...he was too pained to see that Sai's pain was because of how much she loves him. I understand why he told Sai not to interfere in his matters anymore, but this is just going to make her feel even more like the third wheel...these words are going to haunt her. The fact that this was the first time Sai brought up leaving and he didn't counter was so sad. He has given up all hope... so much so, that he is setting her free. Yes, because he feels hurt, but more so, because he believes her happiness is elsewhere. I'm not going to take these words at face value though, because we all know that he says things (just like Sai) that he does not mean all the time. It is going to be too hard for him to follow through with this.... Sai's face when he was saying these words was painful beyond measure...

Great post and beautifully expressed what Sai and Virat are going through ❤️


Just a few points I want to add without Sai vs Virat


1) Sais dialogue about Karma I felt was related to Samrats dialogue about his fate and how he accepted this as karma and left the house. It was hurtful yes, but Sai could feel Samrats pain at that point and if you notice she cries after Virat leaves, so she knows that was hurtful.

2) In the room both of them were quitely packing the bags , Sai could have let it be and leave the matter until they got home, but she wanted to know what he was thinking, but in the wrong tone. She herself seemed very disturbed but just didn't know how to start a conversation so started with a taunt.

3) Virat calling Sai immature again , I don't get this dialogue at all even after 270 episodes. In my opinion they are both immature and should start pointing fingers at themselves than eachother.

4) Sai calling him a 2 timer, I said this in the anniversary scene aswell this was very wrong and Sai knows this is not true. She shouldn't have said this then , neither now.

5) Virat physically hurting Sai , whatever maybe the situation or hurtful words Sai has said this is wrong.

6) After all the taunts Sai still asked the same question she has been asking Virat for 6 months now. He has never answered the question in the past but today he seemed too broken to answer. Fair enough he was in no mood to answer.

7) Virat tells Sai he will show her a side of him she has never seen before. This was wrong according to me that too coming from a police officer. This came out more like a husband threatening a wife.

8) Virat telling Sai their relationship is broken and there is nothing left between them. Glad he said this because this is what the 2 of them need to value eachother. Sai should leave now especially since Virat broke the relationship. Neither one of them values the other unless one of them is in the hospital or missing.

9) This again is the same point I mentioned in the anniversary episode - Sais love for Pakhi is unbelievable. This is seriously Stockholm syndrome and no one can convince me otherwise. No amount of good heart can explain this love for a vile person like Pakhi.

So sai convinently puts all the blame on Virat again and Pakhi is the victim in all this. On the wedding day Virat was clearly in GC to save her, and Samrat clearly said he heard Patralekha talking to someone and left. So isn't it Patralekhas fault as much as Virats ? Why is Sai mute when Pakhi talks about her dreams being shattered by Virat , why couldn't she ask her why did she agree to marry Samrat in the 1st place if she loves Virat. I am trying to understand her love for Pakhi but my brain fails me each time 🤦.

10) Samrat not wanting to listen to Virat was fair from Samrats perspective. He was betrayed by Virat which shattered and broke him to the core. Would Virat listen to anything when he is angry or made up his mind on something? I doubt it since we have seen this in many scinearios in the past.


Same precap but Sais dialogue about Surprise for Pakhi and how happy she would be 🤦, maaro mujhe please. When did she ever tell Sai she wants Samrat to comeback. This dialogue has been bothering me since yesterday and have to hear it again especially this is such a contradicting dialogue. How can Pakhi be happy with Samrat coming back if Virat and Pakhi still like eachother 🤦. Also has she forgot Virat asked her to stay out of his family matters 🤔


@ laksh responded here about the karma dialogue based on what I felt


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

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I see this post of yours daily 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

I second everything you have said here. Virat and Sai’s greatest downfall towards each other is their anger. They spit venom in it, and words cannot be taken back.

You know, just one thing though regarding Samrat- I was actually quite bothered today when he refused to listen to Virat. Virat desperately wanted to talk to him alone, and I truly do believe he would have cleared everything if he had been given the chance. I understand that Samrat feels betrayed by Virat, but at this point, he has had over a year to calm down. Does he really feel that Virat does not deserve the benefit of the doubt, or at least an opportunity to explain his side of the story at the very least? From the way their bond has been shown, they were truly unseparable. Is he willing to throw all of that away without attempting to make amends all due to a woman who he "loved" for 2 days? Samrat, to me, is acting very immaturely and his behavior is going to be the reason for many upcoming problems in SaiRat's relationship too....

That is why when Virat told Sunny today that he is being misunderstood by everyone close to him, my heart fully shattered for him.

@bold well said. They have taken their relationship for granted for too long that it's on the verge of breaking. It's like a wave one day one goes high the other goes low and the cycle continues. Sai wants answers and she is losing her Patience and you could see her the desperation and urgency in her tone since Samrat entered and he wants to free Patralekha. Virat at the moment is just engulfed in guilt that his brother left because of him and Sai is not understanding him aswell.

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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Beautiful post Pooja ❤️. You have written everything so poignantly.💔

I felt the same...I felt for both. Both are wrong. Virat by not clarifying his past earlier and Sai by crossing her all lines today. Virat did dig his own grave didn't he?

And yes the fight was different from usual....there was a deep chasm between the hearts and not just angry, hurtful words.

Sai was too wrong today. Yes there was no sexual connotation to what she said. But she cast aspersions on his character, his honesty by implying that he wilfully and using cunning, deceived two women. I can imagine how shattered Virat must have felt. Even after anniversary, Virat was showing apnapan when she got lost, and trying to protect her from Samrat's anger. The karma comment did him in. It was so insensitive.

Virat didn't clarify himself because Sai's tone was so accusatory. She did ask valid questions but they got lost in the intense hurt she caused. I really don't know how they are going to come out of it.

I was thinking about Sai. The same Sai who has never doubted Virat...even when he planned the Ladakh trip with Pakhi. Where did these accusations come from? Even in her most angry frame of mind...even when Virat was hurting her so much during the hand-holding episode, she accused the family, Pakhi but never him. This is probably what transpires when you throw away your feelings for too long - it explodes in your face when you come face to face with the reality. Sai could not handle that - the tsunami she was was feeling - and she took it all on Virat. Im not trying to defend Sai's behaviour today, just trying to look at it objectively. She never has somebody who she could confide in, to seek guidance from - who could have helped her accept and navigate her feelings. Had that happened, Sai would have confronted Virat long ago and this issue would have been done and dusted by now.

Virat - it's extraordinary how he believes that others would understand him just through his actions. Yes actions do speak louder than words...but there are times when clarifications are needed too. If we want to see any silver lining in this whole mess - it is to hope that Virat understands the importance of clarity in relationships.

As much as Sai's words were hurtful, I don't want this track to be about Sai riding in her emotional roller coaster, suffering all the angst alone and finding a way to end the impasse in their relationship. I want Virat to realize the deep uncertainty that the vaada caused in Sai - and clear all her misapprehensions with openness and honesty. I want Sai to acknowledge that she cause unbearable pain to Virat by her caustic words - and apologize to Virat sincerely and earnestly. I hope there is a neutral person who can help them see each other's POV.

Right now, I can't think of anything that can heal the realtionship. It has a long way to go..... The way they are being to each other, it's better to stay alone for some time alone atleast...but that again is no guarantee for a chance at reconciliation.

Beautifully expressed as always Nethraa ❤️

@bolded: I completely agree with this. In addition to what you have described, Sai has also never felt this close to "losing" Virat. Samrat coming back and wanting to set Pakhi free scares her...because in her mind, that brings Virat and Pakhi a step closer to potentially being reunited. And, up until now, the past was quite vague to her...she did not really know what had transpired. The yoga instructor had already triggered her in that regard, making the past more clear. But, now, hearing that Samrat left a day after his wedding because of Virat and Pakhi's "relationship" has entirely pushed her over the edge. She has always been emotionally impulsive... I said in another post that Virat and Sai's biggest downfall towards each other is their anger, through which they spit venom. But, Sai has never spit venom this bitter before, because she has never been this in love with and scared of losing Virat. Again, not justifying anything she did nor said today. It was all unacceptable. But, I also did feel for where she was coming from.


@second bolded: I think this is why this track is necessary. Even before this fight, their relationship was turning into something unbearable for both of them. They were each drowning in their own emotions for each other without realizing it. As painful as today's episode was, it was extremely raw and real to me. This marriage has never been a deal. But, by Virat distancing himself, he is going to give Sai a glimpse of what it means for a marriage to be a deal. I honestly believe he will fail in completely retreating, but he has been broken to the extent where the difference will be undeniable. This will force Sai to ask herself some difficult questions, but as you have said, I hope that upon seeing how much she is impacted, Virat is forced to ask himself those same questions as well.

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