Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour
What does Raghav think marriage is?
I actually think his views on marriage are far more sorted than his wife, which is surprising to say the least because he's been all alone for a good chunk of his life!
Sure, Raghav and Pallavi started off on the wrong foot, but he was always adamant on treating their deal as an honest marriage that entails open communication between both partners. Something as simple as that is hardly ever shown on ITV, so Raghav's role of a husband was definitely a breath of fresh air.
He will tell Pallavi what he needs or wants, and it is her responsibility to do it for him?
Absolutely not! He has never expected Pallavi to adhere to his needs or wants (barring the time he forced her into this marriage). That being said, even if Raghav expected that of his wife, it's not entirely wrong so long as he's doing the same for her. If he's fulfilling her needs and wants, then it's not absurd of him to request the same from her.
When is it Raghav's turn to support Pallavi and trust her out of his sight (without a tracker)?
The entire length of the show actually! The tracker was for her safety, not his lack of faith in his wife. If anything, Raghav has been the driving force behind Pallavi's coming of age into an independent and feisty woman. She wasn't nearly like that in Deshmukh Niwas. Raghav pushed the goal post farther and farther away for her with each of his challenges, thus motivating her to achieve each goal with more fervour than the last. If Raghav didn't turn her world upside down, she'd still be performing CPR on a comatose DSE. Let's face it, the fate and financials of that shop were not going to turn around with her meagre efforts. Raghav supported her in plenty of mysterious and mischievous ways!
Pallavi needs his permission to show compassion to her family?
Isn't she a person that he loves for her qualities, including her compassion?
Or, is she just a trophy with his name on it?
I don't think so... I don't think Raghav has ever put her in a place where she needs to seek his permission to do/say anything. Even before they were married, she would walk into his house like she owns the place and he would simply taunt her, but he never once implied that she needs his permission to be herself. Yes, he loves her for her qualities, mainly her compassion, but I don't fault him for not loving her for her lack of common sense and gut instinct. Her compassion or sense of responsibility towards her family has irked him at times, but never ruffled his feathers enough for him to hold her back. I mean... let's not forget that Raghav made sure his father-in-law was out of jail within minutes when he was taken in for stealing a necklace from Raghav's showroom.
If Raghav didn't want her showing compassion to her family, he would've gone to any measure to stop her. It's not beyond his means to put an end to this nonsense, by hook or by crook. He's choosing to take a step back because Pallavi wants to handle this matter firsthand and he's been trusting her to do so without damaging their relationship.
Did he ask Pallavi's permission to choose Kirti over her, or did he just pay off the witness, steal the pen camera, and make a false confession?
You're right, he did all of that, but he never failed to speak to his wrongdoings as plainly as you've listed them. He could've lied to his wife in an effort to protect his sister. Instead he chose to be honest with his wife, lend an ear to her concerns, say his piece, and maneuver the situation in such a way that he's able to protect both, his sister and his wife. He said so in as many words that he's willing to take the hit for Keerti's crimes so he can protect her future and simultaneously give Pallavi's family the closure they seek. He could've just as easily hired someone else to take the blame and save himself the trouble. I'm sure plenty of laymen owe Raghav Rao a favour, and if not, I'm sure he can easily bribe someone to go to jail for him. However, he wanted to take the blame himself because he understands the gravity of what his sister did and how it shook an entire family to its core. Raghav understands that the death of a family member leaves a permanent void, he wasn't trying to brush Mandaar's death under the rug by any means. According to him, he was going to kill two birds with one stone; but yes, he handled that situation rather poorly. I guess that's what draws me to him - he's flawed and he has no qualms about accepting that.
If Pallavi faints while dancing, and mutters something in a daze, that is a reason for Raghav to doubt her fidelity, to shout at her?
Not at all. That wasn't his reason either (unless that's what he said in today's episode, I haven't seen it yet). His reason to doubt her fidelity is because her actions are constantly going against her intentions. Similarly, when Pallavi questioned her place in his life during the Keerti fiasco, it was because his actions were going against his intentions.
Shouldn't his concern be for her health, to ask why she fainted?
He tried as soon as he got home that night and his Amma handed him the phone. He wanted to speak to her to ask how she suddenly fainted right when he turned his back to her. Mandaar switched off her phone though so he couldn't get through to her. Not Pallavi's fault, yes, but certainly not Raghav's fault either.
If she forgets about his special moment for the sake of someone less important, he isn't happy to see her anymore?
If you truly love someone, shouldn't that person always be more important to you than what she does or fails to do?
Uhh... depends, to be honest! I'm rather short-tempered myself and I know when I'm upset, I weigh my partner's actions more than my love for him. Anger does that to a person. Raghav's anger isn't unjustified just because he loves her. It's because he loves her that he's willing to fight it out.
This is emotional abuse by Raghav. Sure, I believe what he said when the liquor loosened his tongue: he desperately loves Pallavi in the sense that he cannot live without her - the same obsession that we are supposed to see from Mandar.
I don't see it as emotional abuse by Raghav, rather just his funky choice of words. Emotional abuse is what VD and Mandaar are inflicting on Pallavi, and to some extent, what Pallavi is inflicting on Raghav.
Telling your wife that you cannot live without her isn't abusive, it's just the truth. It would be manipulative if let's say Pallavi was preoccupied with her job or with taking care of her ill mother/brother/whoever. For Raghav to tell her he can't live without her in those situations would imply that he's indirectly asking her to leave her job/loved ones to spend time with him and that is utterly ridiculous in every sense of the word! However, Pallavi is preoccupied with nursing her healthy ex-husband, so for her current husband to create a ruckus is highly warranted in my opinion.
(I'm not convinced that Mandar actually wants Pallavi; he isn't exactly trying to get to know her.)
I agree, his intentions seem unclear and his actions are awfully disturbing. I can't put my finger on whether he's truly after Pallavi or whether he's after Raghav's estate, or whether he's got his eyes on something even bigger!
So, what would Raghav do if Pallavi treated him the way she treats Mandar? If she moved on from him, as she has the right to do - legal marriage notwithstanding, would he throw away his life to make her feel guilty? I hope not; that's not the kind of love that comforts and supports and cherishes.
I'm a little confused by what you mean here. Are you asking if Pallavi moved on from Raghav the way she has moved on from Mandaar? If so, then no, Raghav would not bat an eyelid. If Pallavi willingly and wholeheartedly shut him out of her life, closed that chapter, even threw out that book entirely, then he wouldn't object whatsoever.
Just to be clear though, Pallavi and Mandaar's marriage was hardly a marriage. He disappeared shortly after their vows only for his dead body to show up a week later.
At first, I thought that Raghav drove drunk to Deshmukh Niwas, taking the risk of crippling himself and becoming even more dependent on Pallavi, but it seems that he had his driver take him this time. Dare I hope that this is the first step towards Raghav acknowledging how his drinking affects Pallavi and others?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this show has ever shown Raghav drinking and driving. In fact, that's something I truly appreciate about this show - they don't frown upon drinking all together, instead they portray drinking responsibly.
As for that special moment - Raghav said repeatedly that he didn't want to go to the awards ceremony (because he was mad at Pallavi), but he went only because Jaya promised him Pallavi. In other words, Raghav doesn't value the recognition of his talents by professionals, nor good publicity for his company; he used the event as an occasion for Pallavi to prove her fidelity. When she wasn't on time, he disrespected the award-givers by walking out; when Pallavi arrived late, he aired private grievances in public. She embarrassed him, so he embarrassed his hosts and her. If you truly love someone, shouldn't you cover her shortcomings in public?
You're right, he doesn't value the recognition of his talents by professionals nor good publicity for his company. Not because he's mad at Pallavi though, but because he truly never cared. He was willing to shut down an entire showroom instead of trying to figure out who was involved in the theft had Pallavi not advised him otherwise. Raghav has never cared for recognition or validation from his peers or his family. He knows his hard work will take him wherever he wants to go, the same way it has brought him and his empire to where they both stand today. Attending this award ceremony was more of his Amma's ploy than anything else - she thought it would act as a bridge between Raghav and Pallavi so she promised them each other and when that didn't materialize, everyone naturally had a sour reaction.
Remember when Milind didn't worry about embarrassment or losing money because Manasi cancelled her wedding? He just hugged her. That's love - you value a person, not what you lose on her account.
Indeed! Raghav's just the same, I assure you. He has much more money to spare on top of that, so I highly doubt he's counting his losses when it comes to his loved ones. He bore a massive 13 crore loss in order to get Pallavi the Nawab family order. He would send his mother money every month even though she wanted nothing to do with him. Believe me, he's not counting bills.
Meanwhile, Jaya seems to have completely forgotten her advice that Raghav and Pallavi should unite and punch their problem together. Now, she thinks it is her place to decide when a wife may or may not see her husband. If Jaya sincerely believes that Raghav is in no state to talk to anyone, even then she should step back and let him turn Pallavi away himself if he wants to. What is more important, Raghav's petulance or the fact that Pallavi came all the way to him? Never mind, Pallavi has come to her own home, so get out of the way, Jaya.
I can see that side of it, so fair point. Jaya pulled a bit of a VD stunt when you put it that way. The way I saw it was that she just doesn't want her son to spiral any further and she doesn't want any more toxicity in her house. Pallavi disappointed Amma too, so perhaps Jaya shut the door on her to show her own disappointment as a mother-in-law and not necessarily her son's heartbreak.
Moving on, yes, while it is more important that Pallavi came all the way to Raghav, I feel that there is a time and place limitation on almost everything in life. For example, when we try out for school sports teams, we have to show up for try-outs at a certain time. We can't show up afterwards and still expect a fair chance at showing our skills and being considered for selection. Likewise (and yes, I understand matters of the heart work very differently), Pallavi can't just show up when she has a minute to spare and expect the other party to be available at that same minute to hear her apology. In real life, we miss our chance sometimes and it sucks, it really, truly sucks!
You too, Vijay. Let Pallavi bring her drunk husband in for the night. You have nothing to gain by leaving the Rosetta Stone of "I love you" rattling at your door.
Honestly! This man needs to quit it with his superiority complex! How his wife puts up with him is beyond me!