What does Raghav think marriage is? (August 10 episode)

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What does Raghav think marriage is?

He will tell Pallavi what he needs or wants, and it is her responsibility to do it for him?

When is it Raghav's turn to support Pallavi and trust her out of his sight (without a tracker)?

Pallavi needs his permission to show compassion to her family?

Isn't she a person that he loves for her qualities, including her compassion?

Or, is she just a trophy with his name on it?

Did he ask Pallavi's permission to choose Kirti over her, or did he just pay off the witness, steal the pen camera, and make a false confession?

If Pallavi faints while dancing, and mutters something in a daze, that is a reason for Raghav to doubt her fidelity, to shout at her?

Shouldn't his concern be for her health, to ask why she fainted?

If she forgets about his special moment for the sake of someone less important, he isn't happy to see her anymore?

If you truly love someone, shouldn't that person always be more important to you than what she does or fails to do?


This is emotional abuse by Raghav. Sure, I believe what he said when the liquor loosened his tongue: he desperately loves Pallavi in the sense that he cannot live without her - the same obsession that we are supposed to see from Mandar. (I'm not convinced that Mandar actually wants Pallavi; he isn't exactly trying to get to know her.) So, what would Raghav do if Pallavi treated him the way she treats Mandar? If she moved on from him, as she has the right to do - legal marriage notwithstanding, would he throw away his life to make her feel guilty? I hope not; that's not the kind of love that comforts and supports and cherishes. At first, I thought that Raghav drove drunk to Deshmukh Niwas, taking the risk of crippling himself and becoming even more dependent on Pallavi, but it seems that he had his driver take him this time. Dare I hope that this is the first step towards Raghav acknowledging how his drinking affects Pallavi and others?


As for that special moment - Raghav said repeatedly that he didn't want to go to the awards ceremony (because he was mad at Pallavi), but he went only because Jaya promised him Pallavi. In other words, Raghav doesn't value the recognition of his talents by professionals, nor good publicity for his company; he used the event as an occasion for Pallavi to prove her fidelity. When she wasn't on time, he disrespected the award-givers by walking out; when Pallavi arrived late, he aired private grievances in public. She embarrassed him, so he embarrassed his hosts and her. If you truly love someone, shouldn't you cover her shortcomings in public?


Remember when Milind didn't worry about embarrassment or losing money because Manasi cancelled her wedding? He just hugged her. That's love - you value a person, not what you lose on her account.


Meanwhile, Jaya seems to have completely forgotten her advice that Raghav and Pallavi should unite and punch their problem together. Now, she thinks it is her place to decide when a wife may or may not see her husband. If Jaya sincerely believes that Raghav is in no state to talk to anyone, even then she should step back and let him turn Pallavi away himself if he wants to. What is more important, Raghav's petulance or the fact that Pallavi came all the way to him? Never mind, Pallavi has come to her own home, so get out of the way, Jaya.


You too, Vijay. Let Pallavi bring her drunk husband in for the night. You have nothing to gain by leaving the Rosetta Stone of "I love you" rattling at your door.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I disagree! Deshmukhs can be termed her family but not Mandaar. No one can see their partner choosing their ex over them. And if the situation was vice-a-versa, and Raghav was choosing some of his ex over Pallavi’s important moments in present in the name of helping the other girl, if he was living at her house leaving Pallavi alone waiting, he would be totally wrong too! The time and effort you give to someone decides your priorities in relationships especially when it happens repeatedly. Having intercourse with another person is not the only form of infidelity. If you give the time and attention your partner deserves to another potential romantic partner that also is not acceptable. Though Pallavi is nowhere cheating him but she has her priorities all messed up. She is a people pleaser and she needs ro fix that. Not saying Pallavi is wrong, I know she has her reasons but Raghav is totally justified here.

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Are you serious? Is marriage not about two people understanding each other and helping each other through thick and thin?


When Raghav chose Kirti above Pallavi, he was very guilty of it and had been clear about his intentions of saving Kirti by hook or by crook. He had repeatedly told Pallavi that he can't see his sister rot in jail and was apologetic about it.


Raghav has not questioned her compassion towards her family even once. The tracker was a mistake, yes but he did that for her safety, keeping Mandaar's intentions in mind. Pallavi, single handedly took the decision of moving to the D-house without even consulting her spouse. Is that what marriage is about? Today he questioned Pallavi's intentions because she clearly cared to cater to every miniscule problem of D's yet failed to given even a little attention to Rao's. If D's are her family so are Rao's. She has no sense of balance in relationships. How is she okay with fulfilling all expectations of D's while blatantly ignoring the expectations of Rao's? And why can't a husband expect his wife to be with him for a special occasion? It's not like Pallavi was attending an important meeting or was not in town. No. She was mollycoddling a manchild who had his mother and other people to take care of him. Even after that, Raghav gave her the benefit of doubt and asked her why couldn't she drop a message or call? Now he can't expect minimum effort from Pallavi as her husband?


Also, Raghav or other people don't know Pallavi was unconscious, they think she was sleeping (stupid, I know) and Raghav is mad because he think Pallavi asked Mandaar to take her to the room to rest and stay with her.

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As much as i agree to some of your points here regarding RR using tracker , seeing Pals unconscious he got angry and went into fighting mode instead of thinking about her health and well being , him being the one to cover for her absence in from of the public and all I still can’t Support Pals actions anyway . No spouse accepts his/her other half to care for her ex like this. That’s not possible . Pals considers Mandars dads and mom as her Aai baba and by all means she could help them jn their need but Mandar is still her ex who Infact on multiple times claimed to b her husband and declined to accept Her marriage with RR . So how could you expect Raghav to be all hanky dory and let Pals have her moments with her ex in his house ? Pals didnt even bother to call him and tell him the reason for her delay and Thats alright ? Raghav is Pallavis husband and she has a family with him as well and they have some expectations from her as well .Pals has so many expectations from Raghav and she always expects him to behave like a proper husband but when Raghav expects her to fulfill her duties as well we can’t judge him this way .

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Raghav lost it when he took their selfie and sent it to Mandaar. He made it even worse by keeping a tracker. A simple conversation could have avoided all this drama.Insecurity more than trust is nonsensical, it screams a lot more hurdle than health.

Pallavi lost it when she entered D niwaas. She has let people take her decisions, which is so not her character.

Love demands full and full trust. No insecurity is above that trust and here Pallavi confessed her love to him. For somebody who knows his wife loves him, his actions are childish.

And for a person who could smartly detect the culprit behind an accident, her actions are childish.

Bad writing I tell you.

Intesity, pain and angst go tangent above the head cause there is no healthy conversation here. I can't believe they ruined two great characters for high voltage drama. May the universe give them brains.

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I don't agree... even though it's wrong but what RR did is for his sister but not his Ex. If Ds are her family, she need to set priorities right not just give promises to sanKi and later blame RR for not taking her home... Clearly there is mis communication between both of them but RR didn't view her as trophy. He didn't take her for granted ever...I am wondering myself how i am supporting ML character over an FL character.. she is very much considerate of phone calls by D fam members but never answers R family member calls. Even after repeated insults by D fam, RR is coming just because he wants Pallavi... The redemption what we saw in RR character for what he did i don't see it in Pallavi for what is she doing now. Had if she done for her brother Siddhesh or for that matter Even Sanki i can understand but Mandaar ??? Seriously?!? Mandaar is as much as alien to Pallavi as Raghav in earlier episodes.. She is in marital bliss with Raghav than she was with Mandar... Her interactions were direct with Raghav as compared with Mandar where they used to be video calls.... I really don't understand her devotion towards D fam over Her biological brother... That too when he is this loving and supportive brother...

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There is no justifiable no justifiable word for pallavi in this mandar track. Whatever pallavi is doing if this was happened in real life till now any husband would send divorce paper to wife for staying ex in laws house for caring ex hubby to leave legal hubby.

I can't totally understand how come raghav's saving kirti is being compared with pallavi's babysitting caring her ex husband!😨 from which angle raghav chose kirti over pallavi. Dude, pallavi was fighting for her ex & she was quite ready to send kirti in jail without doing proper investigation. Then why the hell ragahv will choose pallavi for sake of his wife's ex husband. Mandar is nobody to ragahv but kirti is his own sister so he was accomplishing his responsibility as brother. In this case he no way disrespected his relationship with pallavi. But what exact relationship between pallavi & mandar for this pallavi has disrespected her relationship with ragahv!

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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

What does Raghav think marriage is?

He will tell Pallavi what he needs or wants, and it is her responsibility to do it for him?

When did raghav tell or force his Needs and wants on Pallavi🤔..did I miss something?? He has always been understanding towards her needs..and has gone to an extent of accepting VDs nonsense demand to fulfill her wish ...


When is it Raghav's turn to support Pallavi and trust her out of his sight (without a tracker)?


Tracker was not because he doesn't trust her..it was because he knew mandar's intention...Yes he should have told her about the challenge, warned her about mandar's intentions but I guess he didn't because he thought pallavi might not belive him and she didn't...

Pallavi needs his permission to show compassion to her family?

When did he say that?? She never asked him permission, she left with VD without looking back. because she was hurt and angry and later promised VD.....infact both raghav and amma are accomodating and have never questioned her stay D-house....Raghav requested her to come back soon once ur duty is fulfilled...

Isn't she a person that he loves for her qualities, including her compassion?

There is difference compassion and dumbness ..and he fell in love with a smart brainy independent girl who is missing right now..


Or, is she just a trophy with his name on it?

Well....I don't think he has ever treated her like that ..he has always been respectful towards her


Did he ask Pallavi's permission to choose Kirti over her, or did he just pay off the witness, steal the pen camera, and make a false confession?

Well for that however stupid the act was he did take the blame and surrendered himself to give her the closure she was looking for..

Any brother in this world wouldn't want his sister to rot in cell for a crime she committed accidentally, se goes for Raghav...but still for his wife happiness he surrendered himself...so where is the question of permission here ..


If Pallavi faints while dancing, and mutters something in a daze, that is a reason for Raghav to doubt her fidelity, to shout at her?

Shouldn't his concern be for her health, task why she fainted?

He doesn't know pallavi fainted, he wasn't around, he just saw mandar carrying her, pallavi sleeping on mandar's lap and holding his hand..and how ever modern u r, how much ever u trust the person, what u have seen is bound to effect u , u can't just brush it off...even after that he didn't raise an finger on her character, for that matter even amma supported Pallavi..Yes he was angry which is obvious because of what he saw and heard but he still waited for her , wanted to speak to her , wanted to take the award , and even when keerti was badmouthing her, he gave her look to shutp.





If she forgets about his special moment for the sake of someone less important, he isn't happy to see her anymore?

What ?? Really ?? How can u forget , ur husband's special moments, it's not like he wins the awards everyday...and if u give importance to some one less important all the time and that someone is ur ex and u expect ur husband to understand and be accommodating then I guess u r in some parallel universe ...in real life it doesn't happen that way, infact raghav was way too composed and calm...if it was me, I would have blasted palavi ...


If you truly love someone, shouldn't that person always more important to you than what she does or fails to do?


Well it has to be both ways ..it can't be one way ...if raghav was important to pallavi she wouldn't have forgotten the event..and he still did go back to d- house to bring her ..


This is emotional abuse by Raghav. Sure, I believe what he said when the liquor loosened his tongue: he desperately loves Pallavi in the sense that he cannot live without her - the same obsession that we are supposed to see from Mandar. (I'm not convinced that Mandar actually wants Pallavi; he isn't exactly trying to get to know her.) So, what would Raghav do if Pallavi treated him the way she treats Mandar? If she moved on from him, as she has the right to do - legal marriage notwithstanding, would he throw away his life to make her feel guilty? I hope not; that's not the kind of love that comforts and supports and cherishes. At first, I thought that Raghav drove drunk to Deshmukh Niwas, taking the risk of crippling himself and becoming even more dependent on Pallavi, but it seems that he had his driver take him this time. Dare I hope that this is the first step towards Raghav acknowledging how his drinking affects Pallavi and others?


@bold..emotinal abuse?? What ....in all this if someone is suffering the most it is raghav..

Raghav has never forced himself on pallavi, infact he is the one who backs out when pallavi come closer to him..,😜

There is no comparison between mandar's lust amd raghav's love...

Pallavi has repeatedly told she loves raghav and only raghav and mandar is her responsiblity and that is the reason is trying his best to make marriage work.. ...before confession he was ready to set her free, even bought her ticket to kolhapur when he thought she was not happy with him but mandar knows pallavi doesn't love him, still he wants to keep her with him by hook or crook...

As for that special moment - Raghav said repeatedly that he didn't want to go to the awards ceremony (because he was mad at Pallavi), but he went only because Jaya promised him Pallavi. In other words, Raghav doesn't value the recognition of his talents by professionals, nor good publicity for his company; he used the event as an occasion for Pallavi to prove her fidelity. When she wasn't on time, he disrespected the award-givers by walking out; when Pallavi arrived late, he aired private grievances in public. She embarrassed him, so he embarrassed his hosts and her. If you truly love someone, shouldn't you cover her shortcomings in public?

Raghab didn't want to attend award function because he didn't have family to..now also since pallavi was busy with her farz...he didn't want to go, but when amma promised him, pallavi would come, he kind of said ok...he was waiting for her and was looking for her...any normal person in his place would have felt the disappointment and would have been hurt...

If u saw the episode ,farahad asking the camera man to stop clicking pics and took them aways ..so there was no public and no public embarrassment...

Remember when Milind didn't worry about embarrassment or losing money because Manasi cancelled her wedding? He just hugged her. That's love - you value a person, not what you lose on her account.

Seriously...

Meanwhile, Jaya seems to have completely forgotten her advice that Raghav and Pallavi should unite and punch their problem together. Now, she thinks it is her place to decide when a wife may or may not see her husband. If Jaya sincerely believes that Raghav is in no state to talk to anyone, even then she should step back and let him turn Pallavi away himself if he wants to. What is more important, Raghav's petulance or the fact that Pallavi came all the way to him? Never mind, Pallavi has come to her own home, so get out of the way, Jaya.


Yes ofcourse...she is watching her son's heart bleed, her son suffering, completely shattered and broken, her son drinking and crying but she still should be mum and watch him drown himself in misery and say nothing to her daughter in law whom she has always supported and stood by but who broke her promise for her ex.. really...


You too, Vijay. Let Pallavi bring her drunk husband in for the night. You have nothing to gain by leaving the Rosetta Stone of "I love you" rattling at your door.

Legally by not allowing her to go out...he has committed a crime for which he should be put behind the bars...this same person who has thrown out pallavi in the middle of the night and even now he doesn't have any love for pallavi..he is being selfish for his son... that's it...


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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

What does Raghav think marriage is?

He will tell Pallavi what he needs or wants, and it is her responsibility to do it for him?

When is it Raghav's turn to support Pallavi and trust her out of his sight (without a tracker)?

Pallavi needs his permission to show compassion to her family?

Isn't she a person that he loves for her qualities, including her compassion?

Or, is she just a trophy with his name on it?

Did he ask Pallavi's permission to choose Kirti over her, or did he just pay off the witness, steal the pen camera, and make a false confession?

If Pallavi faints while dancing, and mutters something in a daze, that is a reason for Raghav to doubt her fidelity, to shout at her?

Shouldn't his concern be for her health, to ask why she fainted?

If she forgets about his special moment for the sake of someone less important, he isn't happy to see her anymore?

If you truly love someone, shouldn't that person always be more important to you than what she does or fails to do?


This is emotional abuse by Raghav. Sure, I believe what he said when the liquor loosened his tongue: he desperately loves Pallavi in the sense that he cannot live without her - the same obsession that we are supposed to see from Mandar. (I'm not convinced that Mandar actually wants Pallavi; he isn't exactly trying to get to know her.) So, what would Raghav do if Pallavi treated him the way she treats Mandar? If she moved on from him, as she has the right to do - legal marriage notwithstanding, would he throw away his life to make her feel guilty? I hope not; that's not the kind of love that comforts and supports and cherishes. At first, I thought that Raghav drove drunk to Deshmukh Niwas, taking the risk of crippling himself and becoming even more dependent on Pallavi, but it seems that he had his driver take him this time. Dare I hope that this is the first step towards Raghav acknowledging how his drinking affects Pallavi and others?


As for that special moment - Raghav said repeatedly that he didn't want to go to the awards ceremony (because he was mad at Pallavi), but he went only because Jaya promised him Pallavi. In other words, Raghav doesn't value the recognition of his talents by professionals, nor good publicity for his company; he used the event as an occasion for Pallavi to prove her fidelity. When she wasn't on time, he disrespected the award-givers by walking out; when Pallavi arrived late, he aired private grievances in public. She embarrassed him, so he embarrassed his hosts and her. If you truly love someone, shouldn't you cover her shortcomings in public?


Remember when Milind didn't worry about embarrassment or losing money because Manasi cancelled her wedding? He just hugged her. That's love - you value a person, not what you lose on her account.


Meanwhile, Jaya seems to have completely forgotten her advice that Raghav and Pallavi should unite and punch their problem together. Now, she thinks it is her place to decide when a wife may or may not see her husband. If Jaya sincerely believes that Raghav is in no state to talk to anyone, even then she should step back and let him turn Pallavi away himself if he wants to. What is more important, Raghav's petulance or the fact that Pallavi came all the way to him? Never mind, Pallavi has come to her own home, so get out of the way, Jaya.


You too, Vijay. Let Pallavi bring her drunk husband in for the night. You have nothing to gain by leaving the Rosetta Stone of "I love you" rattling at your door.

I don't agree. Deshmukhs are not her family. They were family by marriage. Had she chosen to look after her real parents or brothers or sisters and had Raghav complained, then I would have supported Pallavi for sure. Here shes going back to her first husband. There's a difference. In fact he did ask her didn't he, what's her thoughts abt Mandar? And she said she loves only him.

Ideally I want Raghav take a step back and allow Pallavi to choose. Now its her time to choose.

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Thanks for your replies and reactions. I stand by what I wrote, so let's agree to disagree.


Coincidentally, another show that I follow (Sundara Manamadhe Bharali, in Marathi) has shown similar incidents over the past few episodes. Latika's father has taken her home to punish her husband Abhimanyu, and at a ceremony to honour Latika, Abhimanyu is humiliated by a group of vigilantes who smear black on his face for "returning" his wife. Latika goes to Abhimanyu's house to comfort him, and his mother refuses to let her past the door unless she has come to stay. While the two families argue over who is to blame, Latika quietly persists in asking to see Abhimanyu, but she leaves when Abhimanyu's brother comes home drunk. Then Latika and Abhimanyu keep trying to call each other at the same time, so they both get busy signals. They finally talk on the phone, then meet in person; Abhimanyu wants to make it a real marriage and Latika wants only friendship, but they agree to work together to apprehend the people who hired the vigilantes.


I think this is a good example that Mehndi Hai Rachnewali should follow. First, fix the pace. If the awards ceremony is important to Raghav, let's hear his cheerleaders talking about it for a couple of weeks before it happens, while other events unfold. Give Raghav a valid reason to feel humiliated on his wife's account, and let him trust her anyway because he loves her that much. Write subplots for the supporting characters that give them convincing motivations to stand in Pallavi's way; they shouldn't just do it because it's their role to obstruct the leads. Portray the drunk character with humanity, not maudlin theatrics. Don't let Raghav and Pallavi succumb to tricks and misunderstandings when there's so much more drama in their real differences of values. And don't subscribe to gender stereotypes; the man can compromise and the woman can be trusted with her ex.

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