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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

As some of you know, I have not been around much in the forum past few days but I kept watching the episodes.

Posting this after a lot of contemplation. People who are not up for criticism of actors, please skip. It is a long pending ranting post, about which I have ranted quite a few times but in a subtle way since I had given benefit of doubt. I had stopped giving them that even that in the recent past when things have become quite prominent. I am sure each one of us have different views about different things and I expect that this view of mine is looked at as my views and be respected. I feel this way and I have no comments or anything to say if others feel different about it. This is a forum and I think I can state my views without inhibition and I am doing it after a long long time trying to respect others sentiments but this time I would want to post my views, but please do remember that it is not hurt with any intention to hurt anyone’s sentiments but to call out on whatever is going wrong, to raise issues on the cast.

Also, I am no one’s fan. People who know me know that I had started to watch it for Sairat and I have continued to watch the show for the story of Sairat and Neilshas chemistry. I have been left clueless many a times with the so called social distancing scenes between the leads. I don’t understand in the stage that Sairat are, they still don’t show proper Sairat scenes.

Pulkit and Ajinkya have been much closer to Sai than Virat and Virat would be close to Pakhi circling her around while confronting her about why she sent Ajinkya to room. Virat will always only maintain distance with Sai? Why? I have been able to notice that the actor has not been comfortable doing any close scene with Ayesha and why should that be the case? Looks very unprofessional. I have supported him and said that as long as onscreen content is fine, I am happy. I have defended him supporting his fiance long before when people were bashing them when they used to take pics in their character costumes or when he used to support his fiance saying any fiance would do. I have always respected their personal life, have not even had issues watching their segment. I might be one of the few who would have watched the offscreen couple’s segments and that’s because they were like other actors for me. But I wouldn’t tolerate any kind of compromise in onscreen part. Many of us are watching it as a story of Sairat, their journey. It has become very very wierd that the actor always maintains distance from his costar or when body double is used in scenes where he is close to Sai. I really wonder how does the ph and the director accommodating so much. Just because they are friends, they are compromising so much? There are a lot of shows to watch romantic content but I am here for Neil and Ayesha and Sairat story. Why can’t they give us decent scenes? It has become very prominent in the recent past that Neil cannot even get close to Ayesha and act. The copy paste works in everything but just not in Sairat scenes. They will be cut short to a few seconds. Absolutely unprofessional I would say. If he is not willing to get that close with his costar and act, I don’t know what to say. Just a few hugs wouldn’t show anything. This is ridiculous. They always have a workaround for everything so that they don’t have to show the couple acting close. I am not here to look at their romance alone but when the ML is visibly uncomfortable, maintaining distance in all his scenes with his FL but not with the antagonist of the show, I can’t help but raise this as an issue, call out on the actor, the director and the ph. Do they think we can’t see all these? If not for all, I

Am sure many can see. I know many have accepted that they are not going to show proper Sairat scenes. They too know but just don’t think it as an issue or some don’t even raise it as an issue. I won’t blame the director alone. How do I perceive the fact that Sai can act close with Ajinkya but there will be a visible distance between Virat and Sai almost always. If the same scene of Ajinkya and Sai had to be enacted by Neil, he would have sat with Sai like how he was when he and applied hand aid in her forehead, when he held her hands in the hospital. The same hospital scene if it was between Sai and Ajinkya, if Ajinkya was helping her as a friend wouldn’t have maintained social distancing. None of these are part of the story, the actor is visibly not comfortable. We have had enough of Sairat scenes to understand this.

I think there is honeymoon promo being shot, it is the trip where they will find Sairat. Mark it guys, the scenes will be nowhere like how it was in KD. If Virat Pakhi scenes can be shot that way, why not Virat Sai who are husband and wife as per the story?

I have enjoyed Neil’s expressions, his acting skills and was very happy with him. I would still be able to enjoy it but that doesn’t mean that I can’t express my displeasure about the actor. One can appreciate and actors and criticise them too.

The story can be quite upsetting but when I see someone being this unprofessional, it is an even more bigger put off.

High time that the actor and the directors change their ways and attitude. Whether we get scenes as in other shows or not doesn’t matter to me, what matters is that onscreen content are getting repeatedly affected, especially the actor who clearly isn’t willing to act in a few shots or scenes.

Once again, this is me ranting unhappy with the actor for whom I started to watch the show based on the promo.

All I want is for social distancing scenes to stop. It has become too evident now and it is very weird and annoying.


Kudos for being brave enough to put into words what most of us have been feeling to a certain extent. I can't exactly pin-point on what's gone wrong but the production value has dropped down significantly post Mahashivratri sequence, especially in execution of Sairat scenes. From what I've heard, it was sometime during then the director was replaced who's now a part of the Mehendi show. So that could've had an impact on the excution but to this extent, it's extremely hard to believe. The contrast is so evident between the initial 100 episodes and the episodes post that, is something I realised today earlier in the day while I was watching Sairat's Ladakh confrontation, and I could literally feel sparks shooting off of each other, their chemistry was that electric. But now, with lack of proper cinematography and leads standing almost a feet away and not even being in the same frame most of the times, even the most significant sequence looks so fake, almost forced. Watching old episodes make you feel that they had more physical attraction during the initial days of their marriage than now. Earlier we used to get some really beautiful scenes with meaningful conversations but now it's all about some nok-jhonk or they're having MU's followed by full blown confrontations with once in a blue moon close proximity scenes like that ladoo sequence. It's as if the entire production team from CVs and writers, to cinematography and direction, to screenplay & editing have become extremely lazy and incompetent.


As far as ML is concerned, I'd always thought that people were going over board when they used to drag him earlier for his lack of interest in his onscreen jodi. But with the recent consistent downhill, I'd hate to begin assuming that it's the actor here who is not comfortable enough to shoot with his FL w/o any hesitation in the presence of his fiancée because that seems one of the most logical explanation at this point. Ever since his real life equation has come to forefront I've seen this decline starting from lack of BTS & offscreen promotions, then lack of lead IVs and any acknowledgement of the fan hype, followed by now even onscreen is impacted so much so that we're grateful to get a well executed Sairat scene. I've never cared much for offscreen stuff as long as onscreen isn't impacted but things have become just too glaringly obvious that something somewhere is definitely wrong. All this is bringing down Sairat hype, so one can't help but assume all these assumptions to be true as they make the most sense. I've a friend who watches PH's other show on Rangu channel and that show despite being in drama genre w/ ML being married in real life has much more romantic scenes than our romance genre show. So even if I want to go ahead and blame the PH, the question that arises is why would PH have issues with televising romance on their one show but not on the other, until and unless the actors themselves are not comfortable to carry out such scenes? For people who question if it's FL who could be uncomfortable instead of the ML, all I'd say is the way it's only the FL who's done any offscreen promotion for the jodi in the last couple of months whereas ML and his fianceé have been busy giving IVs while not only sidelining the FL but also bad-mouthing her ckt and defending the negative lead in their IVs, it's pretty obvious for people who've been following the show for sometime, where the bias lies if at all it actually exists.


People do get offended if one points out what seems pretty obvious at this point but the truth is if we as fans don't provide constructive feedback and demand for better viewing experience, the makers will keep on taking things for granted with TRPs already being in their favor. I'm more active on Twitter and I've seen now even padosi FDs making fun of the show for lack of plot progression and socially distant romance. What we're all failing to acknowledge is that all it'll take is one better prime time show to dethrone Ghum from its TRP leader slot and then it'll be very difficult for them to bring TRPs back up. Sitara has known to be ruthless in the past with low TRP shows so much so that the online viewership & hype won't make a difference to them, with the most recent example being SAAKK. With a bunch new shows being launched at 8:00PM slot in the coming weeks, it's high time cast and crew pull up their socks because there's been enough crap served in the last 100 episodes for them to make it easy for viewers to switch the show.

Edited by Ishani96 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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People who knows how the industry works, YES The actors Bond with Director, PH department does Impact Onscreen too.

Known Fact it is.

They can't throw the leads out so many a times agrees to few demands.

I m not blaming Neil totally, but Always Interviewing with someone who is supposed to be your Bhabi and antagonist does gives a wrong message. Keep your Personal life away from Professional life first.

Neil Ayesha has less Interviews compared to Madam..

Also, Yes they do lack chemistry now (have said it earlier too) their normal moments seems so off with all the unnecessary standing position and social distancing with only each other.. He without feeling awkward stands beside Pakhi and that's absurd🤪

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Idk, I fail fail to understand why it's like that, I really do and I've never said anything about this because I don't know whom/what to blame, what the issue actually is.

The actors themselves? Why would they be completely fine with some intimate scenes/proximity and then not be ok with other scenes and moreover if you look at offscreen, they're extremely comfortable with eo. Everything was fine till MahaShivratri so why would they suddenly have issues with eo/proximity. And Neil was in a relationship from 2012 till 2016, during which he did a serial Tum Hi Ho Bandhu Sakha Tum Hi where he did intimate scenes effortlessly, where there were no proximity issues. If that relationship didn't affect his professionalism why would this one? Ayesha also sees comfortable with him. I don't think the actors themselves have issues and if they did then the directors do correct them usually. I've heard a lot about issues going on between ML/FL of a serial but still delivering back to back normal episodes.

PH's other show has lots of intimate and romance despite the ML and FL having issues. So the PH doesn't have any issues with romance and know how to not let it affect onscreen.

CV's? He worked on shows such as ipkknd and ishqbaaz, impossible that he doesn't know how to deliver intimate scenes.

Only thing that has changed after mahashivratri is one director apparently that went to MHRW show but does one director make that big difference?

I also think that camera angles can be misleading, wrong angle and it seems that there's more distance in between than there's in real and that's something I realised while watching the sbs segments/bts, where the scenes seemed much better to me out of a direct angle/other editing. I think the editing/technical aspects are more of a problem than the acting itself in Sairat scenes.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Guguminti

People who knows how the industry works, YES The actors Bond with Director, PH department does Impact Onscreen too.

Known Fact it is.

They can't throw the leads out so many a times agrees to few demands.

I m not blaming Neil totally, but Always Interviewing with someone who is supposed to be your Bhabi and antagonist does gives a wrong message. Keep your Personal life away from Professional life first.

Neil Ayesha has less Interviews compared to Madam..

Also, Yes they do lack chemistry now (have said it earlier too) their normal moments seems so off with all the unnecessary standing position and social distancing with only each other.. He without feeling awkward stands beside Pakhi and that's absurd🤪


@bold : Exactly!! Many friends on the forum have brought a point that its need of the time since Virat and Sai have had a huge fight, but they why while fighting with Pakhi such close proximity and while supporting an injured wife such a distance? Doesn't Virat know his equation with Pakhi now? Doesn't he know what she wants from him, then why such close proximity even while shouting at her and refuting her?

If ITV had a trend of anyone giving interviews from shows then it would be okay to see the vamp an ML interviewing all the time. FL interviews by herself if at all and on top of it even when the FL is victim ML and especially the vamp have been bashing the FL character in unity rather than being true to the characters. Even now when the character of ML knows that the Vamp is the vamp in the show, the actors justify it offscreen. There are too many proofs and clear examples if one wishes to see.

Anyway, the show will get over and the actors will move on, but hope the deserving ones do get their dues!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: methebest


@bold : Exactly!! Many friends on the forum have brought a point that its need of the time since Virat and Sai have had a huge fight, but they why while fighting with Pakhi such close proximity and while supporting an injured wife such a distance? Doesn't Virat know his equation with Pakhi now? Doesn't he know what she wants from him, then why such close proximity even while shouting at her and refuting her?

If ITV had a trend of anyone giving interviews from shows then it would be okay to see the vamp an ML interviewing all the time. FL interviews by herself if at all and on top of it even when the FL is victim ML and especially the vamp have been bashing the FL character in unity rather than being true to the characters. Even now when the character of ML knows that the Vamp is the vamp in the show, the actors justify it offscreen. There are too many proofs and clear examples if one wishes to see.

Anyway, the show will get over and the actors will move on, but hope the deserving ones do get their dues!!

Bold : And Audiences/any other PH won't give them another chance if they don't value emotions of audience.

Aishwarya needs to accept Pakhi is Negative and stop justifying Pakhi atleast in Interviews. Also, her flaunting Neil as some trophy is Idiotic too.

In YHM (if anyone have watched the show) the FL use to stand close to her Husband that was onscreen just a police, and ML close to his ex wife (she was his BFF in real life), it effects the essence of the show, And is not unintentionally always. And it definitely riles up audiences who watch the show and don't care about actors personal life.

Neil Aishwarya giving Interviews together always is heck irritating. Learn to differentiate between Reel n Real first yourself and then ask the fans to do the same.


P.S : Also, though I love her reels but that 'mai toh ek hi yaar banayi te rola pe gayi' was definitely to get back at fans which is ABSURD

Edited by Guguminti - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Guguminti

Bold : And Audiences/any other PH won't give them another chance if they don't value emotions of audience.

Aishwarya needs to accept Pakhi is Negative and stop justifying Pakhi atleast in Interviews. Also, her flaunting Neil as some trophy is Idiotic too.

In YHM (if anyone have watched the show) the FL use to stand close to her Husband that was onscreen just a police, and ML close to his ex wife (she was his BFF in real life), it effects the essence of the show, And is not unintentionally always. And it definitely riles up audiences who watch the show and don't care about actors personal life.

Neil Aishwarya giving Interviews together always is heck irritating. Learn to differentiate between Reel n Real first yourself and then ask the fans to do the same.


P.S : Also, though I love her reels but that 'mai toh ek hi yaar banayi te rola pe gayi' was definitely to get back at fans which is ABSURD

I am fortunately not on SM, so it don’t even get to see her posts unless someone posts it here. I also avoid opening such posts. Frankly, I haven’t seen her posts even if they are posted here. My observation is purely from the show and some interviews that friends from the forum post here.

Their personal life is theirs and have no comments about that, but certainly we have right to critique what we pay to watch!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Glad to hear that I was not the only one feeling the awkwardness.. Look at the BTS from Yamini.. other than interviews, yet to see friendly equation b/w ML and FL off screen, doesn’t seem to exist.. can only imagine discomfort of FL to do any close shoots with ML with everything else happening off screen.. Ghum being a romance genre, show’s biggest draw back seems to be ‘real’ couple.. just doesn't work with viewer psychology.. particularly online savvy viewers… I think I will be quitting soon..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Whatever they have shown so far, be it him wiping her tears or pulling her and pinning to the wall or any intense romance scenes that they have tried to show have not been nice at all.

To me, more than any kind of romantic scenes, I first want them to put an end to social distancing scenes in the normal/regular Sairat scenes, it looks too odd.

Exactly!! I hope you remember I mentioned this that when they have to do a close scene where the scene itself is about coming close they would do it ..but the general ones ...like the entire birthday sequence or if you see now the way he is getting her inside the house...these scenes look so off...awkward... uncomfortable to say the least.. The blindfold scene had Virat pushing his body back while taking her in...Pakhi confrontation scene had Virat telling Sai from where he stood nead Pakhi ...chalo bandage laga deta hun without even moving an inch towards her..holding her and taking her in the room...Virat I knew would do it...and it's not romance..it's concern...While she is hurt he does not even hold her face properly to touch...Virat is so so tender towards Sai and since they are progressing towards each other..he would in general touch and see her face properly.. Bandage scene well I have never scene such badly executed scene in a romantic show...before the confession and consummation of a couple..😆

I did not watch last two episodes...just saw few insta clips and precap and I am not pulled into watch the full episode like before...Clearly I am losing interest!!

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I am losing interest in this show because of this reason.. the show being tagged as romance never justified it's genre.. 250 + episodes.. but they are hardly any romantic scenes and the story hasn't moved a bit forward...

Just watching sairat clips on insta.. can't handle them as they are turning ITV cliche romantic scenes like bandage scene etc..into social distancing scenes...and for virat and Pakhi scenes,they give like holding hands, rounding her etc.. which is unbearable considering they are devar and bhabhi onscreen..


Anyway, they are not going to listen until they gets trp... I am gonna quit soon after this sairat trip track...

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Posted: 4 years ago

Agree 🙌

The sairat scenes are getting ridiculous with how they are being shot. The social distancing started all of a sudden and now it's just in almost every scenes.


It seems to be about the roka couple since there was no such issue in earlier epis. They keep giving ivs offcreen too regarding the storyline since the beginning of the show and that has not stopped till now. We've missed out on the fl views on the storyline due to that. Don't they feel awkward especially aish sitting in almost every show iv ?! So much entitlement due a roka and the ph doesn't even step in. Not to forget, the multiple tellychakkar articles on her/ roka.


The director seems to much involved in dosti to correct anything online. He even let the ml go on leave when there was such imp sairat scenes going on. As for the romantic scenes , I read an article long back by ayesha how aish even gives her comments about how to enact the scenes better. See, if scenes are being shot between ml and fl and rokafied aish will stay in BG, things will definitely be awkward. This hesitancy seems to have cropped up since roka itself in the normal scenes. The onus is on ml and director to correct this.


Why do we have to stand all this just because two people are getting married?! Do I care about Neil private life ?! No, but I care about Virat one so they just need to step up now.


Can someone pls share this post on SM and tag the ph 🙏

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