Shiva and Raavi - what are they, really?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Posting this on the forum per @Peanutbolt's suggestion. 🤗


I'm so glad we're not getting the cliche trope of hero becoming softer just because he got married. Clearly, Shiva's reactions to a hurting Raavi are pretty reflexive - he's not doing it because he's now married to her, that was apparent during the wedding episodes when everything was going haywire. Even in his haze he was constantly watching out for her, during the pheras she faints and he catches her even though his attention was elsewhere a second ago - his body and mind are attuned to her presence so well. I do think something in him shifted permanently after seeing her almost take her own life.


When she attempted suicide and then wakes up and hits him, the look on his face was that of open hurt and empathy. His eyes had teared up, he looked almost guilty and extremely pained. I saw a vm on that scene and the lyrics fit perfectly: chot lagi hai use phir kyu mehsoos mujhe ho raha, dil tu bata de kya hai irada tera. Of all the people there, Shiva looked like he felt her misery.


Even though we've seen hundreds of nokjhok couples and will continue to see hundreds more enacting the same formulaic scenes and character arcs, what makes these two a nuanced experience is their very deep, layered relationship.


They didn't start out as enemies. But are they friends? No. Do either of them hate the other and is looking to take revenge? No, thankfully, that is the worst trope ITV uses to build romantic relationships on. Does she like him? No. Does he like her? Maybe, yes. Interestingly enough, their interactions would suggest otherwise to an outsider - she's always flitting around him trying to get his approval, recognition and simply floating in his periphery as a blinding blob of sunlight. She isn't interested in him but she sure values him, considers him her own. He lashes out at her over the silliest reasons, his reactions are always disproportionate to the trigger when it comes to her. He dislikes her, gets annoyed by her presense, but can't help but be habituated to it too. He notices every single thing about her. She's always harping about the brother she's in love with, but it's the brother who treats her like a sack of potatoes that she's found spending time with, being her real self with. He proclaims to hate her and keep her away but he's pulled to her by some unknown force, a rare intensity in his eyes, his harshest personality laid bare. Often, you find Shiva saying dialogues that act more to convince himself than her - it takes effort to hold on to his fake conviction.


So, what are they? Definitely not something you can describe in a handful of terms or catalogue under a category. What's the right word, friends, enemies, relatives, acquaintances...? None of it suffices or feels right.


And the most beautiful, poetic part of all this is the fact that their tale was spun over the years, starting from the moment a 10 day old babe came into the Pandyas' existence. Their dynamics evolved as organically as possible, via shared childhood and that makes everything between them poignant.


There's an ocean of emotions and memories and familiarity between them, their lives unintentionally orbiting around each other all this while. In that little world they carved out for themselves amidst silly fights and taunts and a smile that never wilted, they've an inexplicable connection, vastly superior to a superficial romance.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well wow!

I don't think there will be a better way to sum up their relationship. 👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you felicie 🤗❤️

As always your posts are eloquent and I heart this post so much.❤️ It’s poetic the way you describe ShiVi and I hope makers see this post and give us more insights on the relationship ShiVi shared throughout the years.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Very well written!!! I felt like you were trying to convince me of something and succeeded!

My favorite part is how you described how he is always attuned to her even if it seems different to the outside world ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is so beautifully written!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is beautiful you know that! I could read this again and again.

To him she seemed so beautiful, so seductive, so different from ordinary people, that he could not understand why no one was as disturbed as he by the clicking of her heels on the paving stones, why no one else's heart was wild with the breeze stirred by the sighs of her veils, why everyone did not go mad with the movements of her braid, the flight of her hands, the gold of her laughter. He had not missed a single one of her gestures, not one of the indications of her character, but he did not dare approach her for fear of destroying the spell.

Gabriel GarcĂ­a MĂĄrquez,

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Posted: 4 years ago
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He is awfully attuned to her. Raavi says she loved Dev but except throwing him dreamy glances there is nothing much there. But with Shiva on the other hand, she is fire, she is ice. She is extreme. She can never ignore him. Never throw him a single glance and keep quite. No... when she sees him, she lights up. Her whole world lights up. She gives him tit for tat. And even when she was supposed to marry Dev. All she was interested in Is appeasing Shiva and trying to make him accept her. She was speaking to him stuff that a girl usually doesn’t speak to her would be brother in law. She was so happy when he said humari hone wali hai. She was extremely comfortable saying god is giving Raavi to him. And yet She calls it hatred. But he doesn’t hate her. For him, she belongs to him. Recently he said, only he has the right to be her enemy. No one else can make her cry. He is weirdly possessive of her. He can be as hurtful as he wants but others need to respect her. When Rishita says ‘iss ladki’ during gruh pravesh, he, who has never called her by her name gives her introduction and her place in the house. He might not have given the place of a wife to her but he will always fighht for her respect in front of the world. Even in small silly stuff he is always attuned to her movements or other’s movements towards her, saving her from herself and others.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I am here to ramble after a very boring day at work. Tired of crazy virtual conferences, let m transcend into the dream world of Shivi ❤️

I think both of them consume each other in unimaginable ways. Shiva being the more aware one. His surreal obsession with her even at the slightest mention of her name irked a strange reaction from him.


Something he didn't share with anyone else in the world, not even his Dhara Bhabhi. Raavi CONSUMES a storage part of his brain. He feels for her strongly! It's not even funny how he wants to KILL anyone who’d dare hurt her.

Says the same man who was ready to shoo her away with a brick.


Like Raavi said today, there's a thread which ties them, his Shiddat ❤️

There's no emptiness; it's an all-consuming feeling!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Transference

I am here to ramble after a very boring day at work. Tired of crazy virtual conferences, let m transcend into the dream world of Shivi ❤️

I think both of them consume each other in unimaginable ways. Shiva being the more aware one. His surreal obsession with her even at the slightest mention of her name irked a strange reaction from him.


Something he didn't share with anyone else in the world, not even his Dhara Bhabhi. Raavi CONSUMES a storage part of his brain. He feels for her strongly! It's not even funny how he wants to KILL anyone who’d dare hurt her.

Says the same man who was ready to shoo her away with a brick.


Like Raavi said today, there's a thread which ties them, his Shiddat ❤️

There's no emptiness; it's an all-consuming feeling!


Absolutely true! She elicits strong reaction from him but is she spared? The girl is lost when she sees him laugh.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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So well put ... The scene :

I do think something in him shifted permanently after seeing her almost take her own life.

When she attempted suicide and then wakes up and hits him, the look on his face was that of open hurt and empathy. His eyes had teared up, he looked almost guilty and extremely pained. I saw a vm on that scene and the lyrics fit perfectly: chot lagi hai use phir kyu mehsoos mujhe ho raha, dil tu bata de kya hai irada tera. Of all the people there, Shiva looked like he felt her misery.


This one struck the chord for me.... was watching this show on & off in the background ...but binge-watch the whole show after that scene. Both Alice & Kanwar were pure+true as Raavi & Shiva in that!

And the whole sequence of happenings.. from childhood to now... How beautifully, effortlessly everything is portrayed!


If talk just About Shivi:

His sharp looks at her, be it appreciative ones at pehli rasoi or questioning one at haqwala hurt to understanding ones at grihpravesh ...

And her instantaneous ' Tu alag lagta hai', her appreciative look at bbq (she wanted to see her prince charming in black shirt, binge-watch brought that up when she buys t-shirts for pandyas, she mentions that... and here he was) ...Her helpless look at Wedding mess ...

Both Alice & Kanwar are doing great bringing this alag jodi to life!


Hope these few weeks pulls up trp & show gets trp it deserves...

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